barepixels wrote:
OK trolling for money 101

First set up a paid site.  To have paid site ready for business one must have contents already done.  Contents such as nudes pics and videos.

OK once you done all that it is time to fish for customers.

Get on a forum where bunch of guys likes nudes

Make your first post.  Act like a Bambi  Hey everyone am new to modeling... what kind of modeling should I do... Which will makes more money....  (mean while paid site is already in place, let hope some will explore more then just MM profile)

Made your second post.  Hey I have a large breast  blah blah... get more guys to look at your port.... but disappoint them cause no nudes... hoping they will do soe investigating and venture to the paid site and sign up to see the ladies 

Now make a post about nudes videos Once again hoping few will be frustrated cause no nudes in port and maybe some will sign up at the paid site.

It's a good strategy to get paying members.  I do hope her site will be a success.

But if you read this thread again Laura, you will see not one, not two, not three, but several photographers who share the same hunch that they were being played.  Bambi models don't have paid site premade.  And you can't have a fished paid site without contents.  And you can't have a finished paid site with contents and still be a Bambi model.

Anyway this is just my opinions/theory/hunch/observations  I could be wrong.  I have been wrong many time before.  Others can chime in with their thoughts.

Laura UnBound wrote:
I just looked up the rest of her threads. I don't see any spam. Nonsense threads that she doesn't watch like a hawk? Sure. But not spam. Just shit that blends in with nearly every single other thread in these forums.

If y'all wound up on her pay site angry you can't see her tits because of her forum activity then she's doing something right...or you're easy. No idea what the balls a "Bambi" model is. And you can be new to modeling for quite some time. You don't go straight into seasoned pro after your first, or even your tenth shoot. Her pay site could be full of self-shot amateur stuff for all we know (unless you signed up, then I guess you'd know. Did she get you. Did you sign up?)

I got as far as her profile a few weeks ago, but that was it. It was the breast thread I admit.
But I shoot a lot of nudes and scantily clad females so it was more curiosity than anything else.

Laura UnBound wrote:
Did she get you. Did you sign up?

Heck no.  I don't pay for porns  I make them.  haha just kidding.

Earlier when I ask why she doesn't have nudes in her port, I was teasing her cause I was on to her game.  I was amuse by her strategy and have no ill feeling in anyway.  It's her business and I wish her the best.

I didn't plan to go any further than that one tease comment until you snapped at me and Bare Essential Photos so I figure its best to explain what's on my mind.  Like I said I believe other photographers have similar hunch too.

Bare Essential Photos wrote:

No, you're perception isn't accurate. Not upset.

Was simply stating that this seems to be an obvious case of spamming.

You keep using that word...

Where has she spammed anyone? Where has she plugged her portfolio or her website? Asked you to go look? Asked for memberships? Votes? Shit people who use their website URL in their "signatures" are doing more spamming than this.

Laura UnBound wrote:
Nothing she's said here has caused me to go to her website. I haven't even felt the urge to go look at her profile. There's nothing between the lines.

If you're tracking down her work...that's because you felt like trying to see her apparently giant tits(and who could be surprised) She didnt trick you into looking at her pay site, and she certainly didnt spam anyone.

Laura, it's called connecting the dots.

It's a figurative term in which after using various cognitive skills such as perception and reading inbetween the lines, one is able to see a connection. In this case, it's like seeing the problem, 1 + 1 = ?, and feeling comfortable that you know the answer without actually having to worked it out.

Like I said before, Laura, it's okay.

Amazing!

Bare Essential Photos wrote:

Laura, it's called connecting the dots.

It's a figurative term in which after using various cognitive skills such as perception and reading inbetween the lines, one is able to see a connection. In this case, it's like seeing the problem, 1 + 1 = ?, and feeling comfortable that you know the answer without actually having to worked it out.

Like I said before, Laura, it's okay.

Amazing!

Yeah. Definitions of the words you use are pretty cool.

Spam: Electronic spamming is the use of electronic messaging systems to send unsolicited bulk messages, especially advertising, indiscriminately.

- Wikipedia

Show me the spam. Where's her thread in every single forum plugging her Facebook page? The "vote for me"s, the "look at my website full of my big tits" threads, the posting irrelevant content in a handful of active threads, bumping old threads just to plug her website. All of that would be spam.

Simply creating stupid threads that apparently cause you to go look at her work is not spam. If you voluntarily wind up on her profile because something she posted intrigued you... You were not spammed. Getting people to go look at your work is the point of a social networking site. Does she do a good job at saying the right things to make you go look at her work? Apparently. That's not spam. I would hope that once in a while something I say here causes someone to go look at my portfolio, that's what it's all here for.

barepixels wrote:
I believe Bare Essential Photos  calling it a spamming is wrong.  It's more of a strategic, crafted posting on forum, hoping to lure people to the paid site.  While obeying MM rules.  It's fucking smart marketing.

Well, that's the motivation for spamming ... definitely. It's just a matter of whether MM will review the OP's various threads and make that call.

I see it as spamming.

Bare Essential Photos wrote:
Laura, it's called connecting the dots.

It's a figurative term in which after using various cognitive skills such as perception and reading inbetween the lines, one is able to see a connection. In this case, it's like seeing the problem, 1 + 1 = ?, and feeling comfortable that you know the answer without actually having to worked it out.

Like I said before, Laura, it's okay.

Amazing!

You can connect the dots any way you want, as long as it supports what you believe.

Doesn't mean the dots make a picture.

Also, I like the way you're subtlety implying that you're the only one who is "intelligent" enough to get it, as if other people who don't see it are just too stupid.

Condescension doesn't make you any more correct.

Laura UnBound wrote:
Gabby if all these dots you keep seeing persist you may need an optometrist. That's a whole lotta dots.
https://www.modelmayhem.com/po.php?thre … st18828945

No, not when the problems are easy to figure out such as this one regarding spamming.

Of course, I can't speak on your behalf.

Bare Essential Photos wrote:

No, not when the problems are easy to figure out such as this one regarding spamming.

Of course, I can't speak on your behalf.

All problems are easy, if you already think they're there. That's the only dot I see.

barepixels wrote:
Should I get breast augmentation? Bigger or smaller?

Would smaller be an augmentation though?

barepixels wrote:
She didn't spam!!!  Never once.  Just creative marketing

A+ for creative topics

I'm not sure creative is quite right... aren't we all participating in forum chat in order to drive traffic to our pages, increase our profile and to craft an online persona which paints us as someone appealing to work with?

Pretty transparent really, if you ask me... still not a bad thing though and certainly not Spam in the strictest sense.

RKD Photographic wrote:
aren't we all participating in forum chat in order to drive traffic to our pages, increase our profile and to craft an online persona which paints us as someone appealing to work with.

pretty much. ^^^^

Bare Essential Photos wrote:
Well, that's the motivation for spamming ... definitely. It's just a matter of whether MM will review the OP's various threads and make that call.

I see it as spamming.

Agreed.
 


(It IS fucking smart "marketing", though...)

lynne g wrote:
This is why men crack women up... Go to her site, which is all over this "new models" profile. And then you too can register... There are free and paid videos too! Smh

At least some photogs got it... One of those eureka moments I'm sure, like when your husband goes to a Vegas strip club and realizes the dancers don't REALLY like him. Hmmm

Nice blanket generalization.

Just because some people don't feel like throwing the word spam around, doesn't mean we aren't aware of her website.

Good Egg Productions wrote:
I won't discuss it publicly in this forum, since this is dancing on adult content networking, but if you contact me privately, I can tell you all about it.

MM is kicking off long term members who do adult work both photographers and models, I would not be surprised if they are reading private messages as to base their decisions on. Just saying I'd be careful.

JadeDRed wrote:

Yes, avoiding using the word "softcore" and call it art erotica instead, that's what everyone else does.

Although on the interwebs they are used interchangeably, they are not the same. The only true commonality is that they both deal with sexuality and probably sexual arousal.

Kens Lens wrote:

MM is kicking off long term members who do adult work both photographers and models, I would not be surprised if they are reading private messages as to base their decisions on. Just saying I'd be careful.

They will have to "kick off" Ken Marcus long before me.

I don't see that happening.

Mavrick Media wrote:
Its always fun to watch haters and complainers.  They will spend more time focused on something they hate (newbie models "spamming") than the actual fans of the target.

She does ask some interesting questions and before her fan club of haters take over the thread, there seems to be some intelligent conversation....

Why did you bump a 2+ month old thread??

RKD Photographic wrote:

I'm not sure creative is quite right... aren't we all participating in forum chat in order to drive traffic to our pages, increase our profile and to craft an online persona which paints us as someone appealing to work with?

Pretty transparent really, if you ask me... still not a bad thing though and certainly not Spam in the strictest sense.

+1

Bare Essential Photos wrote:
Laura, it's called connecting the dots.

...I only clicked on her website because you drew attention to it.  Otherwise I had absolutely no reason or cause to click there.

So the question is: how much are you being paid per click to drive people to her website?  Just connecting the dots, as you would say.