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Photographer

L O C U T U S

Posts: 1746

Bangor, Maine, US

A photographer that directs you, keeps you moving, keeps you interacting with him.
OR
A quiet photographer that let's you do your thing?

May 18 14 10:33 pm Link

Model

D A N I

Posts: 4627

Little Rock, Arkansas, US

Interact, give direction, joke, laugh, loosen up.

May 18 14 11:08 pm Link

Model

Alexandra Beck

Posts: 175

Los Angeles, California, US

I like to be free to play, but i love feedback so I know which direction to go with my poses, and.so I know if the photographer likes what he/she's getting.

Also, I like being given a mood or image to start from.

May 18 14 11:45 pm Link

Model

marissa charles

Posts: 2935

London, England, United Kingdom

Totally depends on the Photographer for me. On location, I tend to work better with me doing my own thing and the Photographers I shot with in those settings seem to like that too. In a studio shoot that is usually more Beauty shots, then I think it is essential for the Photographer to be Directing as Details like hair out of place etc.there is nothing worse than a beauty shoot where you get no direction and the results are awful. smile

May 19 14 02:16 am Link

Model

Ida Saint-Luc

Posts: 449

San Francisco, California, US

Direction is good! Communication is good!

Total silence confuses me. I don't know if it means I'm doing well and he doesn't want to interrupt or if he's patiently waiting for me to actually pose well.

Micromanaging, however, is on the other end of the spectrum and it is equally maddening.

May 19 14 03:49 am Link

Model

Gelsen Aripia

Posts: 1407

Toronto, Ontario, Canada

I can honestly say it doesn't really matter to me.  The most important thing for me is interacting with the photographer, no matter how much or how little that interaction exchange is.  I just need to get a feel for the overall situation, and I take it from there.  I don't care if they direct me a boatload, or if they hardly say anything, the mood and vibe I get from them and the surroundings is everything to me.

May 19 14 08:16 am Link

Photographer

L O C U T U S

Posts: 1746

Bangor, Maine, US

:-)  Thanks Ladies, much appreciated.

May 20 14 03:06 am Link

Photographer

fsp

Posts: 3656

New York, New York, US

I enjoy letting the model do her thing n I follow looking for angles n light with tweeks n compliments. She should also give some feedback as well.. likke a dance, we work together.

Reminders, posture, hands, toes, hair, turning to the light, zooming in n out, experiment a bit n take chances.. follow me, stay... great hold that... etc.. n just make it a relaxing experiance for both of us.

After a good session, you leave feeling so elated n just cant wait to see the results. Feels so nice when both of us click n float on a cloud in slow motion.

But then there are the models that just need a pin in their butts to get em to move. They need the most tender care... n it feels like work!

Perhaps this is why I enjoy mature models.. they love what they are doing n give me feedback as well. Its a 2 way street n we both have to feel it.

May 20 14 06:50 am Link

Model

Chelsea Marlo

Posts: 144

Portland, Oregon, US

I can work with both but the interactive photographer is preferred especially if it's their concept and they're paying me so that we can ensure we get images that match what they had in their head. With a quiet photographer I'm always wondering if I'm doing good and they're being quiet because they have no complaints or if I'm doing it wrong but they're shy and won't correct me or are distracted by my boobs. Also I'm way more likely to work with someone again if they're interactive because I feel more of a connection with them.

May 20 14 09:37 am Link

Model

Vinny

Posts: 96

Harrisburg, Pennsylvania, US

A mixture is actually the best for me. I know that sounds so cliche....but I like to know what he/she is looking for, in terms of pose and concept. I also like freedom to work within the concept.  I also like feedback after the shutter click. If he/she is silent afterward, that is confusing to me. You don't have to always yell "Fuck yes!!" but a little something about how they are feeling about what they're getting is nice.

I know I strayed off topic a bit, and for that, I apologize.

May 20 14 12:12 pm Link

Model

dead and goneeeeeeeeee

Posts: 161

Aniak, Alaska, US

Almost always the first one. If we're not communicating I don't know if I doing what they want me to do!

May 20 14 01:24 pm Link

Model

MatureModelMM

Posts: 2843

Detroit, Michigan, US

Direction, communication, and interaction are all good things while modelling. I am not a mind reader and would like to know exactly what it is the photographer or artist needs me to do. What I do on my own might be far from what they were thinking of.

May 20 14 06:00 pm Link

Photographer

L O C U T U S

Posts: 1746

Bangor, Maine, US

:-) Thank you, very much, Ladies and gentleman.
Very helpful indeed.

May 21 14 07:10 pm Link

Model

Cervezax

Posts: 152

Atlanta, Georgia, US

I like being directed in the beginning because I'm able to understand what the photographer is looking for. I also like interaction and feedback. I want to give a photographer what they want and it's always more fun. smile

May 24 14 06:26 pm Link

Model

Sabryna S

Posts: 311

Doylestown, Pennsylvania, US

Ida Saint-Luc wrote:
Direction is good! Communication is good!

Total silence confuses me. I don't know if it means I'm doing well and he doesn't want to interrupt or if he's patiently waiting for me to actually pose well.

Micromanaging, however, is on the other end of the spectrum and it is equally maddening.

I agree with this.
I'm a pretty quiet person myself, so it's not like people that are the same way bother me--but when we're working on something creative that requires both people to work together....communication is essential. If nothing is being said, I can't tell if I'm doing it right, or doing it wrong and they don't want to say anything.

I've also worked with photographers that take complete control of how a model poses, 100%. It's extremely obvious in photos that the models look so tense because they aren't allowed any freedom whatsoever. It'd be fine if that photographer paid, but...

May 25 14 09:23 am Link

Model

Abby Hawkins

Posts: 2004

Boston, Massachusetts, US

I like a photographer who knows how to keep the energy going.  I can usually flow from pose to pose just fine on my own, but I love, every once in a while, the photographer suggesting something, maybe something small. 

But it's all about the energy.  If the model knows what she's doing, encouragement is all you need.  If the model is showing signs of slowing down or becoming unsure, time to step in and help.

What I cannot stomach are photoshoots that become living mannequin sessions, where I'm essentially prodded into place and kept there until the cameras go off.

May 25 14 03:30 pm Link

Model

Payton Hailey

Posts: 939

Toronto, Ontario, Canada

I like a mix of both, but given the choice of one or the other id like direction.

May 25 14 09:36 pm Link

Model

AlexYrig

Posts: 35

NORTH HOLLYWOOD, California, US

I prefer interaction and direction.

May 26 14 04:14 am Link

Photographer

L O C U T U S

Posts: 1746

Bangor, Maine, US

smile Understood

Jul 21 14 03:29 am Link

Photographer

Jerry Nemeth

Posts: 33355

Dearborn, Michigan, US

Danielle Reid wrote:
Interact, give direction, joke, laugh, loosen up.

I do a little of everything.

Jul 21 14 05:17 am Link

Model

J Jessica

Posts: 2431

Coconut Creek, Florida, US

I like mostly direction and some free-styling.
:3

Jul 21 14 07:59 am Link

Model

mzchicana619

Posts: 19

Temecula, California, US

I like direction.Not having much experience the direction helps,but also having a photographer that is fun makes the shoot fun & gets you moving n going on your own.

Jul 21 14 08:13 am Link

Model

lynne g

Posts: 674

Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, US

This is a creative outlet for me, not an exercise in exhibitionism. In addition, I do believe modeling involves acting, which means you can chat about laundry and still exude sexy confidence. 

I'm a social creature by nature. Those that work with me multiple times typically like people like that.

Jul 21 14 09:10 am Link

Model

Koryn

Posts: 39496

Boston, Massachusetts, US

I'll admit that I have a hard time when people are obsessed with small neck and head adjustments. I don't have a lot of flexibility in my shoulders and neck, so when people keeping pulling on my head, it's painful. I have worked with folks, where I needed to grin and bear it, but having to keep a heating pad on my neck for three days after a shoot, is a pretty crappy experience.

Jul 21 14 09:58 am Link

Model

Isis22

Posts: 3557

Muncie, Indiana, US

My best photographs have come from shoots where the photographer directed me but allowed me to make the pose comfortable and natural.

Jul 21 14 11:44 am Link

Model

Layla_B

Posts: 411

Eindhoven, Noord-Brabant, Netherlands

mzchicana619 wrote:
I like direction.Not having much experience the direction helps,but also having a photographer that is fun makes the shoot fun & gets you moving n going on your own.

+1 smile

Jul 21 14 12:38 pm Link

Model

GQ The Couture Model

Posts: 320

Seattle, Washington, US

I prefer a photographer who leads the way but doesn't over choreograph everything.In fact I tested for a photographer who wanted everything on a dime and ripped me to shreds when I knew I could have done the job.

Jul 21 14 12:45 pm Link

Model

Axioma

Posts: 6822

Antwerp, Antwerp, Belgium

I can work both ways. Depends on the goal of the shoot.

Jul 21 14 12:46 pm Link

Photographer

2A Models

Posts: 419

SOUTHWORTH, Washington, US

I believe a good model is never AGAINST having a photographer direct her; in essence, she is being hired to respond to and augment the photographer's direction with her own skill set.

If a photographer offers ZERO direction, the model is left with little choice but to "wing it" and give the same old looks and poses she gives every other photographer. Some models -- even successful, well paid, in-demand ones -- are happy to just move forward this way and be satisfied with such an effort. I don't see how any photographer could be, but, apparently, some are...

A smart photographer is a good student of his model; he observes her closely, looking for the things she does well and the things she does naturally that he didn't expect, and then guides her to do more of the same. To me, that approach yields creative synergy.

Jul 22 14 05:40 pm Link

Photographer

Llobet Photography

Posts: 4915

Fort Lauderdale, Florida, US

I speak softly but carry a big stick. big_smile

Jul 22 14 06:18 pm Link

Model

CRIMSON REIGN

Posts: 842

Baltimore, Maryland, US

Axioma wrote:
I can work both ways. Depends on the goal of the shoot.

+1
but I'm chatty and fun loving

Jul 23 14 09:10 pm Link

Model

Chloe Selene

Posts: 636

Albuquerque, New Mexico, US

It's a balance, in my opinion.  Give and take.  I like to "do my thing," since I think posing is my strength, but I appreciate constructive criticism because I want the best images possible! smile I agree with what others have said about discussing a starting mood/reference point before beginning so you and the photographer are on the same general wavelength.  Discuss where you're starting, then let creativity take you wherever it does, and be checking in with each other about what works and what doesn't.  If the model and photographer want to get to the same endpoint, there needs to be collaboration and communication! smile

Jul 23 14 09:50 pm Link

Model

MelissaAnn

Posts: 3971

Seattle, Washington, US

I like feedback more than direction.  Give me a rough idea of what you want, then let me do my thing.  If you see a pose that can be tweaked to look even more awesome, let me know, and I'll do it.  If you don't like what you're seeing at all, or the shots aren't coming out for some reason, definitely say something, and give the necessary amount of direction for you to get the shots that *you* want. 

Most models seem to prefer *some* direction and feedback, but not somebody who tries to direct every one of their body parts and expressions in every pose.  That gets annoying really quick.....about just as annoying as the other extreme, when a photographer snaps away for hours, completely expressionless, and gives absolutely no feedback the entire time.

Jul 23 14 10:11 pm Link

Model

Elisa 1

Posts: 3344

Monmouth, Wales, United Kingdom

He who pays the piper calls the tune.

I'm easy with both styles, though naturally I think if you pay someone experienced to do a job then let them do it. You don't have a dog then bark yourself. I think I can give more left to my own devices but am quite happy if you want me to be a living Barbie doll that you can pose exactly how you want smile

Jul 24 14 07:32 am Link

Photographer

Jerry Nemeth

Posts: 33355

Dearborn, Michigan, US

MelissaAnn  wrote:
I like feedback more than direction.  Give me a rough idea of what you want, then let me do my thing.  If you see a pose that can be tweaked to look even more awesome, let me know, and I'll do it.  If you don't like what you're seeing at all, or the shots aren't coming out for some reason, definitely say something, and give the necessary amount of direction for you to get the shots that *you* want. 

Most models seem to prefer *some* direction and feedback, but not somebody who tries to direct every one of their body parts and expressions in every pose.  That gets annoying really quick.....about just as annoying as the other extreme, when a photographer snaps away for hours, completely expressionless, and gives absolutely no feedback the entire time.

I have a conversation with the model during the shoot.   smile

Jul 24 14 07:42 am Link

Photographer

Fotticelli

Posts: 12252

Rockville, Maryland, US

There is another option - collaboration. I usually shoot tethered and have a big ass monitor turned towards the model so the model can see what we are getting and suggest changes and ideas.

It usually works great. Especially with experienced models that are into the same style of photography that I am into.

Oh, and sometimes when the lighting is critical like for example 90 degrees to the side I set a mirror so the model can see what I'm seeing.

Jul 24 14 07:55 am Link

Model

Isis22

Posts: 3557

Muncie, Indiana, US

Fotticelli wrote:
There is another option - collaboration. I usually shoot tethered and have a big ass monitor turned towards the model so the model can see what we are getting and suggest changes and ideas.

It usually works great. Especially with experienced models that are into the same style of photography that I am into.

Oh, and sometimes when the lighting is critical like for example 90 degrees to the side I set a mirror so the model can see what I'm seeing.

While you have good ideas they aren't going to work with everyone. I can't see crap while I am shooting because I don't wear contacts and my vision sucks without my glasses. Some of my favorite shots were shot with a large format vintage camera. No tethering there!

Jul 24 14 08:10 am Link

Photographer

Llobet Photography

Posts: 4915

Fort Lauderdale, Florida, US

Isis22 wrote:

While you have good ideas they aren't going to work with everyone. I can't see crap while I am shooting because I don't wear contacts and my vision sucks without my glasses. Some of my favorite shots were shot with a large format vintage camera. No tethering there!

I shoot tethered and most models like to see how they're doing while we shoot. A few months back I had a model that did not want to see what the pictures looked like as we shot.  She wanted to be surprised when she got the images.  I guess it made her free to move about and be creative without worrying if it looked good or not.  Seeing herself as she shot may have stifled her creativity.

Jul 24 14 08:35 am Link

Photographer

David Stone Imaging

Posts: 1032

Seattle, Washington, US

'Very helpful to hear from all the models about what you like, and what you do and don't respond to very well.

Personally, while I'm responsible for starting things, I like getting to the point of creatively interacting with a model.  This is the most fun for me.  And I like an ongoing dialog...like..."let's try this"...or..."that looks good"...or...it looks great when you "____"...or...give me a look like"____" and then give positive feedback.

And when we nail a shot, or are getting close, I also like to share the on-camera image.

Jul 24 14 05:39 pm Link

Model

Alabaster Crowley

Posts: 8283

Tucson, Arizona, US

I don't care either way, as long as after he's not like "I wish you had done X." Tell me you want X and I will do it.

Jul 24 14 05:43 pm Link