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Model

Alabaster Crowley

Posts: 8283

Tucson, Arizona, US

Do you ever make something and never share it with anyone?

Tonight, I wrote poetry that I don't want anyone to ever read.

I'm going to do a nude self portrait series soon. Real nude, not the implied stuff I've been doing. I'll probably let my boy see, but no one else.

Art for art's sake.

Jun 11 14 11:15 pm Link

Model

Alabaster Crowley

Posts: 8283

Tucson, Arizona, US

Guess it's just me then lolz.

Jun 12 14 05:28 pm Link

Photographer

Rays Fine Art

Posts: 7504

New York, New York, US

All the time.  I've written plays, stories, poetry, painted pictures, for no other purpose than that I wanted to.  I've shot whole series with models for no other reason than that one or the other of us wanted to see how they'd come out.  I've shot models from 18 to their early thirties just because they wanted to find out what it would be like to pose nude.

I think that the willingness to do artistic things just for the fun of creating is one of the criteria that define artists as opposed to technicians.

All IMHO as always.

Jun 12 14 05:35 pm Link

Photographer

TAFL

Posts: 171

Gardner, Kansas, US

On occasion, yes.

I tend to create with the idea of finding an audience to share with, though, so lots of stuff gets started and left unfinished because I don't have an audience for it. Some projects will languish for a long time until I find someplace to share them, then I finish them.

Then there's all the stuff that gets done and shared with only a very small audience. I've written stacks of poetry that a handful of people got to read before it disappeared, for example.

Jun 12 14 05:38 pm Link

Photographer

DougBPhoto

Posts: 39248

Portland, Oregon, US

Alabaster Crowley wrote:
Do you ever make something and never share it with anyone?

Tonight, I wrote poetry that I don't want anyone to ever read.

I'm going to do a nude self portrait series soon. Real nude, not the implied stuff I've been doing. I'll probably let my boy see, but no one else.

Art for art's sake.

While I am selective about who sees what, I don't think there is anything that no one has ever seen.

As long as you're making yourself happy, that is what counts, not how broad your audience for any given work of art is.

Jun 12 14 06:18 pm Link

Photographer

scrymettet

Posts: 33239

Quebec, Quebec, Canada

99% of the time.

Jun 12 14 06:47 pm Link

Model

Isis22

Posts: 3557

Muncie, Indiana, US

I sometimes start out taking a photograph that no one will ever see. But, if I like it I want to show it. So, the intent is there but I cave.

Jun 12 14 06:55 pm Link

Photographer

scrymettet

Posts: 33239

Quebec, Quebec, Canada

Isis22 wrote:
I sometimes start out taking a photograph that no one will ever see. But, if I like it I want to show it. So, the intent is there but I cave.

Sissi tongue

I so get it

Jun 12 14 06:59 pm Link

Photographer

Justin

Posts: 22389

Fort Collins, Colorado, US

Alabaster Crowley wrote:
Do you ever make something and never share it with anyone?

Sure. Some of it, I don't think the people who matter to me will appreciate it at all. Sometimes I think a rational person won't appreciate it at all. Sometimes I think that while I see it's got merit for some audience out there, even I don't appreciate it, and so I'll just stick to what I like.

Jun 12 14 08:25 pm Link

Photographer

sospix

Posts: 23775

Orlando, Florida, US

Most of what I create isn't fit for "public consumption"  .  .  .  wink  Only the filtered stuff makes it through  .  .  .

SOS

Jun 13 14 09:10 am Link

Photographer

HO Photo

Posts: 575

Los Angeles, California, US

I shoot a lot of stuff that never sees the light of day, beyond the model and myself.

Jun 16 14 10:19 am Link

Photographer

SPRINGHEEL

Posts: 38224

Detroit, Michigan, US

The only stuff that doesn't get seen is garbage that shouldn't be seen

Jun 16 14 10:25 am Link

Model

Model Sarah

Posts: 40987

Columbus, Ohio, US

SPRINGHEEL  wrote:
The only stuff that doesn't get seen is garbage that shouldn't be seen

That is exactly how I feel about my own photography work.

Jun 16 14 10:34 am Link

Photographer

Jerry Nemeth

Posts: 33355

Dearborn, Michigan, US

I have taken photos that won't be seen here.

Jun 16 14 10:35 am Link

Photographer

Ken Warren Photography

Posts: 933

GLENMOORE, Pennsylvania, US

Alabaster Crowley wrote:
Do you ever make something and never share it with anyone? ...

An interesting question. I shoot plenty of images that never see the light of day; they're called "outtakes". But the only time I've ever held back on displaying an executed concept, it was because the entire shoot turned out to be a goat rope from the get-go, with no chance of a re-shoot.

Jun 16 14 10:36 am Link

Photographer

Damon Strong

Posts: 1853

Hamilton, Ontario, Canada

I've written two novels about 500 pages each, but nobody has read them but me.

Jun 16 14 10:43 am Link

Photographer

L O C U T U S

Posts: 1746

Bangor, Maine, US

Alabaster Crowley wrote:
Do you ever make something and never share it with anyone?

Yup.

Jun 17 14 02:00 am Link

Photographer

CNP Photography

Posts: 2579

Vancouver, British Columbia, Canada

I paint (acrylics) but have never shown them to anyone. Prolly never will.

Jun 17 14 02:50 am Link

Photographer

DougBPhoto

Posts: 39248

Portland, Oregon, US

Alabaster Crowley wrote:
I'm going to do a nude self portrait series soon. Real nude, not the implied stuff I've been doing. I'll probably let my boy see, but no one else.

Art for art's sake.

I'm available if you need another opinion... you know, for art's sake.

Jun 17 14 08:32 am Link

Photographer

Looknsee Photography

Posts: 26342

Portland, Oregon, US

Show or submit to critique?

In general, I'm okay showing people pretty much anything.  On my web site, I display several dozen images from each photo session with commentary.  I certainly show my favorites, but I'm also okay showing the near-misses & the total failures, because the bad photos are more educational than the successes, and I discuss them in the commentary.  The one exception is that if a model requests that I don't post a picture, I'll tend to respect her wishes, but I'm as proud of my mistakes as I am with my best images.

There is one exception:  if you photograph nudes long enough, you'll run across a model who is interested in doing more erotic and/or explicit work.  If the mood is right, I'm happy to accommodate such requests, but I don't always show the results, but sometimes I do.  For example, this picture...
https://photos.modelmayhem.com/photos/060204/11/43e4e6a99b259_m.jpg
... led to a pretty explicit girl-girl session -- I don't show these pictures around much at all.

Jun 17 14 12:16 pm Link

Model

Alabaster Crowley

Posts: 8283

Tucson, Arizona, US

DougBPhoto wrote:

I'm available if you need another opinion... you know, for art's sake.

Subtle.

Jun 17 14 03:23 pm Link

Photographer

salvatori.

Posts: 4288

Amundsen-Scott - permanent station of the US, Unclaimed Sector, Antarctica

Jun 17 14 03:29 pm Link

Model

HighMind9

Posts: 2519

Jacksonville, Florida, US

Alabaster Crowley wrote:
Art for art's sake.

That's pretty much all of my art.

Alabaster Crowley wrote:
Do you ever make something and never share it with anyone?

I'd say 99.99% of my "art" has never been "shared".
My parents bought me a guitar in 1991, I wrote my first song that very night. I've been writing songs ever since but almost nobody has heard them, recently, my wife has been hearing some though ever since we bought a house and I started building my studio.

I also have at least 5 paintings that only my family has seen.
Tons of doodles, lyrics, origami like folds of paper, weird solder and metal dripping shapes I thought were cool and kept and made something out of, clay sculptures, some metal sculptures including a human spine resembling microphone stand I built.

....and I probably have thousands of photos, thousands of anything and everything.....no one has seen.

Jun 17 14 05:16 pm Link

Photographer

DougBPhoto

Posts: 39248

Portland, Oregon, US

Alabaster Crowley wrote:
Subtle.

Many of us make assumptions and care not what the truth is, because as far as so many people are concerned, the only truth that matters is what we each as individuals believe.

Tiny details such as actual intent or meaning matter less than preconceptions and interpretations formed through our own personal filters.

Great illustration of the reality that those viewing art invariably see things as they personally elect to view them, many never caring to understand what the artist actually was thinking or intended.

In the end, what really matters, what someone intended, what their real motivations were, or what we come up with in our own minds as an explanation for what we see?

Jun 17 14 11:53 pm Link

Model

Alabaster Crowley

Posts: 8283

Tucson, Arizona, US

DougBPhoto wrote:

Many of us make assumptions and care not what the truth is, because as far as so many people are concerned, the only truth that matters is what we each as individuals believe.

Tiny details such as actual intent or meaning matter less than preconceptions and interpretations formed through our own personal filters.

Great illustration of the reality that those viewing art invariably see things as they personally elect to view them, many never caring to understand what the artist actually was thinking or intended.

In the end, what really matters, what someone intended, what their real motivations were, or what we come up with in our own minds as an explanation for what we see?

lol okay

Jun 18 14 12:22 am Link

Artist/Painter

Two Pears Studio

Posts: 3632

Wilmington, Delaware, US

I almost never show my sketchbooks... to me they are love letters between me and the person posing... There is an intimacy that isn't there in the paintings... For me drawing is to draw out... and painting is to capture qualities...

So basically no one sees my sketches...

Jun 18 14 12:25 am Link

Model

Alabaster Crowley

Posts: 8283

Tucson, Arizona, US

Two Pears Studio wrote:
I almost never show my sketchbooks... to me they are love letters between me and the person posing... There is an intimacy that isn't there in the paintings... For me drawing is to draw out... and painting is to capture qualities...

So basically no one sees my sketches...

There's a beauty in that.

Jun 18 14 12:26 am Link

Artist/Painter

Two Pears Studio

Posts: 3632

Wilmington, Delaware, US

Alabaster Crowley wrote:

There's a beauty in that.

I used to offer sketches as payment in lieu of cash or as part of the trade... but now I don't. I hated to think what might happen to those drawings once they leave...

The paintings are my bread and butter, so if they wanted to buy them... well that is up to them...

But the love letters... well they are mine.

Jun 18 14 12:30 am Link

Photographer

Looknsee Photography

Posts: 26342

Portland, Oregon, US

The real question (often overlooked on this thread) is...

Why won't you show this private art around?

Jun 18 14 07:23 am Link

Photographer

CNP Photography

Posts: 2579

Vancouver, British Columbia, Canada

Looknsee Photography wrote:
The real question (often overlooked on this thread) is...

Why won't you show this private art around?

A few reasons. Firstly, I don't really think of myself as an artist. I don't consider what I do, either with brush or camera, to be art and hesitate to represent myself as such. The only reason I show my photographs is to have something to show models so that they can be reassured that I do know which end of the camera to point at them. My paintings are generally conjured from my imagination alone, no models required, no reason to show them around.

I guess the real reasons are embarrassment, fear of rejection, all that raging lack of self confidence shit. Best to wait 'till I am safely in my grave and let my daughter decide what to do with all that stuff.

Jun 18 14 07:35 am Link

Photographer

J Haggerty

Posts: 1315

Augusta, Georgia, US

There are some things I've made to simply make and not show, most of it is in my mother's basement or my father's attic. I'll post experiments and such to Deviant Art where anyone who sees it won't take it beyond that first visual experience. I like to get it out there in some fashion to see if I'll get any feedback on how to progress in my art or marketing.

Jun 18 14 07:35 am Link

Photographer

Northern Sights

Posts: 186

Soldotna, Alaska, US

I live alone and cooking is one of my art forms so I would say I make art all the time that I don't and won't share with anyone.
As far as photographs, there are some I won't share. I am not ashamed of my subject matter in most of them they just aren't technically very good and the subject matter is boring. I didn't think that when I was taking them though. I thought I was creating art.

Jun 18 14 10:00 am Link

Photographer

r T p

Posts: 3511

Los Angeles, California, US

The only stuff that doesn't get seen is garbage that shouldn't be seen


s
ure aint easy deciding between

garbage that shouldn't be seen

and garbage that should

Jun 18 14 10:59 am Link

Model

Alabaster Crowley

Posts: 8283

Tucson, Arizona, US

Looknsee Photography wrote:
The real question (often overlooked on this thread) is...

Why won't you show this private art around?

Because it's private.

Jun 18 14 05:45 pm Link

Photographer

SPRINGHEEL

Posts: 38224

Detroit, Michigan, US

r T p wrote:


s
ure aint easy deciding between

garbage that shouldn't be seen

and garbage that should

Its easy for me.

I don't show garbage

Jun 18 14 05:49 pm Link

Model

Alabaster Crowley

Posts: 8283

Tucson, Arizona, US

I should mention the two secret poems I wrote the other night are some of my best ever but no one will ever know.

Jun 18 14 05:50 pm Link

Model

Isis22

Posts: 3557

Muncie, Indiana, US

SPRINGHEEL  wrote:

Its easy for me.

I don't show garbage

Bam! You just gave me a shoot idea. Thanks:)

Jun 18 14 05:51 pm Link

Photographer

SPRINGHEEL

Posts: 38224

Detroit, Michigan, US

Isis22 wrote:

Bam! You just gave me a shoot idea. Thanks:)

Very welcome, my dear.  Let me know if and when the shots can be seen

Jun 18 14 05:53 pm Link

Model

Isis22

Posts: 3557

Muncie, Indiana, US

SPRINGHEEL  wrote:

Very welcome, my dear.  Let me know if and when the shots can be seen

I am not shooting right now, sprained ankle. I will just file it away in my pretty little head for future reference.

Jun 18 14 05:57 pm Link

Photographer

Michael Kerrek

Posts: 1427

Orlando, Florida, US

Alabaster Crowley wrote:
Tonight, I wrote poetry that I don't want anyone to ever read.

That's, like, 90-something percent of the creative process. You do the work, over and over, until you like it. Then, you throw it out. Then, you do something until you hate it, and you develop it more, and more, until you hate it slightly less... and then maybe you let someone read/see it.  I do that with writing all the time, and I've heard many others I've known say the exact same thing lol

Jun 19 14 05:59 am Link