Forums > Model Colloquy > Do Models Care About The Photographer's Camera?

Photographer

Mac Intosh

Posts: 308

Moose Creek, Alaska, US

when I'm arranging shoots, every model has always stated "if you don't have a Hasselblad or RZ then the shoot's off" https://www.freesmileys.org/smileys/smiley-basic/bop.gif

top o' the page!! https://www.freesmileys.org/smileys/smiley-basic/bouncy.gif

Jun 25 14 01:09 pm Link

Photographer

Ivan123

Posts: 1037

Arlington, Virginia, US

There was a model in my area who actually put in her profile that she will only pose for Nikons.  Mercifully, she has since removed that requirement.

http://bluebirdofbitterness.files.wordp … =405&h=354

Jun 30 14 07:58 pm Link

Photographer

DougBPhoto

Posts: 39248

Portland, Oregon, US

It appears that some may.

Last time I whipped out my camera for a model, she fondled it for a while and then remarked that she felt it was too big and uncomfortable.

Apparently size does matter.

Jun 30 14 08:31 pm Link

Photographer

Giuseppe Luzio

Posts: 5834

New York, New York, US

The Grand Artist wrote:
I want to hear just from models (even though I know photographers are going to chime in first and most often).

I was wondering if model's care about what kind of camera a photographer is using and what kind of gear he has. We have heard some care if he has a studio or not, so I am wondering if that sentiment goes even further to the camera he has.

For example if you show up to a paid photo shoot and the photographer has a P7100, G16, D3300, 1200D, A37, X-M1 or K1000 and nothing else are you going to question why? What if it is a TF shoot.

Does the type of camera influence what you think of the photographer and their ability to produce images?

do women care about size?

Jun 30 14 09:03 pm Link

Model

Jen B

Posts: 4474

Phoenix, Arizona, US

Eugenya wrote:
No.  Not at all.  I care about the way they SEE things.

Best reply so far.

As a model I do not care at all.

As a photographer I'm slightly curious but, again, do not care at all about another photographer's preference.

Jen

Giuseppe Luzio wrote:
do women care about size?

Particularly when on either extreme of the bell curve, hell yeah but, I suspect we each have our preference for where someone is on the bell curve of size, (or range of preferences.)
Someone for everyone.
oh my...I just realized how much time has elapsed since there has been someone for this one!

Jun 30 14 09:08 pm Link

Model

Alabaster Crowley

Posts: 8283

Tucson, Arizona, US

The Grand Artist wrote:
Do Models Care About The Photographer's Camera?

No.

Jun 30 14 09:16 pm Link

Photographer

Quay Lude

Posts: 6386

Madison, Wisconsin, US

Shouldn't they be more concerned with-

* how tall they are
* how thin they are
* how extraordinarily interesting their face is

* how tall they are
* how thin they are
* how extraordinarily interesting their face is

* how tall they are
* how thin they are
* how extraordinarily interesting their face is

*sigh*

Jun 30 14 09:28 pm Link

Model

Layla_B

Posts: 411

Eindhoven, Noord-Brabant, Netherlands

Honey Stinger wrote:
Shouldn't they be more concerned with-

* how tall they are
* how thin they are
* how extraordinarily interesting their face is

* how tall they are
* how thin they are
* how extraordinarily interesting their face is

* how tall they are
* how thin they are
* how extraordinarily interesting their face is

*sigh*

I hope not....
* what's the best angle
* is my clothing all in place
* don't I create shadow of my face turning this way
* what else could be an interesting pose
* too smile or not to smile
* chin up, chin down
* tension in some, relaxation in other muscles
* creating form in the whole body
* listen to the photographers' tips and apply them (continuously)
* where is that camera anyway?!
;P

Jun 30 14 09:57 pm Link

Photographer

HO Photo

Posts: 575

Los Angeles, California, US

Do models ASK "what camera do you have" before deciding whether or not to work with someone? I think not. They look at the images.

Jun 30 14 10:13 pm Link

Photographer

Ralph Easy

Posts: 6426

Sydney, New South Wales, Australia

Models should care more of the reputation of the photographer than the gear they are holding.

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Jun 30 14 11:03 pm Link

Model

Elisa 1

Posts: 3344

Monmouth, Wales, United Kingdom

Layla_B wrote:

I hope not....
* what's the best angle
* is my clothing all in place
* don't I create shadow of my face turning this way
* what else could be an interesting pose
* too smile or not to smile
* chin up, chin down
* tension in some, relaxation in other muscles
* creating form in the whole body
* listen to the photographers' tips and apply them (continuously)
* where is that camera anyway?!
;P

Point well made. And we could between us I am sure extend that list a page long. Thing is, photographers who don't understand the models craft....well it's unlikely they will get great images whatever camera they have. One of my favourite images was taken with a Polaroid.


So answer to the op is no. A good photographer will get good pics on their mobile phone.

Jul 01 14 12:21 am Link

Model

Magda Kulpinska

Posts: 688

Paris, Île-de-France, France

I wish I could "like" some of these statuses here.

So... I don't know much about photography. Out of all thr jobs on set (make up, hair, stylist,  etc) it's the most "technical" or "scientific" and requires that kind of knowledge... I'm just not attracted to that.

So, no I don't care about gear.
I have heard photographers boast about their gear and the results were just pathetic. So I know it's not about that,  it's about technical skill and talent and experience (even though some with "20 years of experience" still seem to be taking the same old tacky photos so....)

Jul 01 14 02:00 am Link

Photographer

Chris Rifkin

Posts: 25581

Tampa, Florida, US

I think they only care if it starts malfunctioning during a shoot

Jul 01 14 05:21 am Link

Photographer

r T p

Posts: 3511

Los Angeles, California, US


s
ome do

most don't

Jul 01 14 11:41 am Link

Model

Figuremodel001

Posts: 342

Chicago, Illinois, US

No, use the tool you like for what you do. Some photographers specifically use "old" stuff for a specific look. Like, Polaroids, where they get film, I have no idea. If something is set up and you pull out an old Kodak of some kind to take snapshots, I'll wonder what you are doing and possibly if you are crazy. If it's not a surprise and you have some "more serious" equipment but want to play some retro game; no big deal to me. If you are paying me, I don't care; if you intend to TFP some crazy shots i can't use - different story.

Jul 01 14 05:03 pm Link

Photographer

ontherocks

Posts: 23575

Salem, Oregon, US

even if their portfolio was solid (and legit)? to me the only thing that matters is the end result, not how it was accomplished. and some people can take the nastiest photo and create a brilliant work of art in photoshop.

Sarah Lynn Modeling wrote:
If the photographer shows up with a cheap point-and-shoot I would be concerned.

Jul 01 14 05:18 pm Link

Photographer

International2014

Posts: 97

Ashburn, Virginia, US

I think they only care about the size of the lens?

Jul 01 14 11:38 pm Link

Model

Morgan_Rose

Posts: 407

Brooklyn, New York, US

Layla_B wrote:

I hope not....
* what's the best angle
* is my clothing all in place
* don't I create shadow of my face turning this way
* what else could be an interesting pose
* too smile or not to smile
* chin up, chin down
* tension in some, relaxation in other muscles
* creating form in the whole body
* listen to the photographers' tips and apply them (continuously)
* where is that camera anyway?!
;P

!!!!!!

Jul 02 14 12:33 am Link

Photographer

Wolfy4u

Posts: 1103

Grand Junction, Colorado, US

You notice that the models who answer here don't care what equipment a photographer uses. That's because experienced models who understand how to model are answering here.
The models who will worry about a photographers equipment won't be talking here. They'll be inexperienced models who have no clue why they care. They'll be making sure that a photographer has a big black camera. If he doesn't, some will think he doesn't know what he's doing. they might know a name, like Nikon/Cannon. Heaven help you if you have a different brand.
If a photographer shows up with a Leica, they'll be absolutely sure that he knows nothing about photography.

Jul 02 14 01:17 am Link

Photographer

TomFRohwer

Posts: 1601

Hamburg, Hamburg, Germany

SierraHardy wrote:
As long as its not a point and shoot camera I'm okay.

If you can you can even create outstanding art with a point and shot camera. You can create art even with a photo booth.

If you can...

Jul 02 14 01:28 am Link

Photographer

Jim McSmith

Posts: 794

Edinburgh, Scotland, United Kingdom

what i've noticed is they seem to like big long lenses. apparently that's something to do with a million years of evolution.

Jul 02 14 02:51 am Link

Photographer

The Grand Artist

Posts: 468

Fort Worth, Texas, US

Wolfy4u wrote:
You notice that the models who answer here don't care what equipment a photographer uses. That's because experienced models who understand how to model are answering here.
The models who will worry about a photographers equipment won't be talking here. They'll be inexperienced models who have no clue why they care. They'll be making sure that a photographer has a big black camera. If he doesn't, some will think he doesn't know what he's doing. they might know a name, like Nikon/Cannon. Heaven help you if you have a different brand.
If a photographer shows up with a Leica, they'll be absolutely sure that he knows nothing about photography.

This is probably why some people don't use Sony, Olympus, Pentax, and Fuji.

Jul 02 14 07:08 am Link

Photographer

Erick Rodriguez

Posts: 29

Pomona, California, US

Click Hamilton wrote:

Amateurs worry about equipment.

Professionals worry about money.

Masters worry about light.


Who cares? Just have fun and take more pictures.

bunny

+1 Yes yes

Jul 05 14 11:36 am Link

Photographer

nyk fury

Posts: 2976

Port Townsend, Washington, US

i would think that the model would be most concerned with the results. but for those who say "it's not the gear, it's...", i say bull. if it wasn't for gear, then there would be no results, just a vague memory of a moment. and if the gear is crappy, you are going to get crappy results...to some degree. a certain amount of crappy is workable. the threshold where crappiness becomes problematic is quite variable, but it is relative.

Jul 05 14 11:50 am Link

Photographer

Herman Surkis

Posts: 10856

Victoria, British Columbia, Canada

Wolfy4u wrote:
You notice that the models who answer here don't care what equipment a photographer uses. That's because experienced models who understand how to model are answering here.
The models who will worry about a photographers equipment won't be talking here. They'll be inexperienced models who have no clue why they care. They'll be making sure that a photographer has a big black camera. If he doesn't, some will think he doesn't know what he's doing. they might know a name, like Nikon/Cannon. Heaven help you if you have a different brand.
If a photographer shows up with a Leica, they'll be absolutely sure that he knows nothing about photography.

In a nutshell.

Jul 05 14 02:31 pm Link

Photographer

Amul La La

Posts: 885

London, England, United Kingdom

Do Photographer's care about the Model's straighteners.

Jul 06 14 01:49 am Link

Photographer

Zael Photography

Posts: 111

New York, New York, US

Have you seen my costly gear?
I want a shot of your naked rear!

I will not bare my tight, round rear.
I do not care about your gear!

Have you seen my expensive car?
Let's do a shoot with legs ajar!

I will not spread my legs ajar.
I do not care about you car.

Would you, could you strike a pose?
Would you, could you with no clothes?

I will not, shall not strike a pose.
I will not, shall not doff my clothes.

I will not pose,
G with C.
I will not pose.
Now let me be!

Jul 06 14 06:20 am Link

Model

Miss_Bee

Posts: 149

Minneapolis, Minnesota, US

0.000000%

Jul 06 14 11:12 am Link

Photographer

Vampman Studios

Posts: 364

Chicago, Illinois, US

I've actually shot my first models with a point and shoot Pentax Optio W90 when I started out. So long as you don't pull this out when the model arrives:
https://cdn.androidcentral.com/sites/androidcentral.com/files/articleimage/684/2014/02/motox-camera.gif

You should be golden no matter what DSLR you use.

Jul 06 14 03:55 pm Link

Photographer

Vampman Studios

Posts: 364

Chicago, Illinois, US

Zael Photography wrote:
Have you seen my costly gear?
I want a shot of your naked rear!

I will not bare my tight, round rear.
I do not care about your gear!

Have you seen my expensive car?
Let's do a shoot with legs ajar!

I will not spread my legs ajar.
I do not care about you car.

Would you, could you strike a pose?
Would you, could you with no clothes?

I will not, shall not strike a pose.
I will not, shall not doff my clothes.

I will not pose,
G with C.
I will not pose.
Now let me be!

+10,000

Jul 06 14 03:57 pm Link

Model

Vi Synster

Posts: 301

Jesup, Georgia, US

As long as you know how to make the picture look pretty, hell, you could be using a vintage camera and I'd be ok with it.

A lot of people dislike cell phone cameras, but the truth of the matter is, they're making cell phone cameras with 4k pixel capabilities, which is kind of on the insane side because generally speaking, most cameras only have 1080 pixel capabilities. Just a tid bit I want to throw in there, because I can't stand people who say "just buy a "real" camera." :l

Jul 06 14 08:58 pm Link

Model

Alabaster Crowley

Posts: 8283

Tucson, Arizona, US

Vampman Studios wrote:
I've actually shot my first models with a point and shoot Pentax Optio W90 when I started out. So long as you don't pull this out when the model arrives:
https://cdn.androidcentral.com/sites/androidcentral.com/files/articleimage/684/2014/02/motox-camera.gif

You should be golden no matter what DSLR you use.

Wtf is going on in that .gif anyway?

If a photographer's portfolio was full of amazing images they shot with their phone, I'd be fine wit that.

Jul 06 14 08:59 pm Link

Model

Vi Synster

Posts: 301

Jesup, Georgia, US

The .gif is a hand gesture to probably turn the camera on. The Moto X used the same gesture.

Jul 06 14 09:00 pm Link

Model

Alabaster Crowley

Posts: 8283

Tucson, Arizona, US

Cree Synster wrote:
The .gif is a hand gesture to probably turn the camera on. The Moto X used the same gesture.

That's fucked up.

Jul 06 14 09:01 pm Link

Photographer

Photo Infidel

Posts: 311

Hattiesburg, Mississippi, US

I love reading photographers' profiles that start out with a listing of all the cool gear the photographer owns.  I have met a couple of models who were also photographers, but to their credit they were there in the role of models and didn't seem interested in engaging in techie chat.

That being said, I know some models who do understand and appreciate that a shoot with digital and a shoot with film are two different animals and require certain differences in shoot tempo and setup time.

But other than that, I don't think I've ever met a model who really gave a damn about what I shot with, but they did care about results.

Jul 08 14 07:35 pm Link

Photographer

Photo Infidel

Posts: 311

Hattiesburg, Mississippi, US

Victoria Elle wrote:
No, I don't care. 

The only thing that catches my interest is if someone is shooting wet plate/tin types, but even that does not influence my decision to work with them.  The only thing that does are the images in the photographer's portfolio.

My experience is that when a professional model picks up a camera, she often turns out better work than many "photographers" who have been at it for a significant time.  Something about having seen lots of very bad photographs, along with some amazingly good ones.

I will say, however, that when a model sees me loading film into a camera, it's a signal that I think she is about three steps above awesome, and I'm certain I won't be wasting my time and money.

Jul 08 14 07:48 pm Link

Photographer

Rakesh Malik

Posts: 498

New Westminster, British Columbia, Canada

Isis22 wrote:
I don't care in the slightest. I will say that the photographer I have enjoyed working with the most has a circa 1917 Deardorff and that is why I contacted him. His 50+ years of experience probably doesn't hurt either.

That is a photographer (and you are a model) with good taste in camera gear. That's a REAL camera. These digitoys that most "photographers" use these days are far more intelligent and creative than the vast majority of "photographers" out there.

In case you're curious, my favorite camera is my Arca-Swiss. smile

Jul 12 14 11:10 pm Link

Photographer

Rakesh Malik

Posts: 498

New Westminster, British Columbia, Canada

SierraHardy wrote:
As long as its not a point and shoot camera I'm okay.

Here's further proof that the person on the other side of the camera, as well as the person with the paycheck, should be eyeing the photographer's work rather than his/her gear:
http://www.redsharknews.com/production/ … or-bentley

Jul 12 14 11:13 pm Link

Photographer

Seismic Images

Posts: 525

Morisset, New South Wales, Australia

Amelia Fae wrote:
I have an interest in photography as well, so I normally find myself asking about the gear a photographer is using when on location.

I think the most important thing is your skill; your portfolio should speak for itself. If you have the ability to create amazing images, I don't think it really matters by what means you create them.

As Amelia said, some models have an interest in photography and those are the ones who always ask. Generally models don't give 1+1 hoot.

Jul 12 14 11:34 pm Link

Photographer

WIP

Posts: 15973

Cheltenham, England, United Kingdom

I'd think models would prefer low MP camera with a soft blury lens that has limited tones as opposed to a high MP camera with a very sharp Zeiss type lens which shows blemishes, zits and every shade of skin tone.

Jul 13 14 01:06 pm Link