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Photographer

Photographer Mario

Posts: 8

Westhampton, New York, US

I need some advice from photographers and especially from female models. To date, I have done numerous nude photo shoots with both male and female models, mostly for fine art photo projects. During these shoots I always  treat nude models the same way  as I treat fully clothed models - with respect and professionalism. Indeed, looking through the lens I think mostly about lighting, composition, focus, background and other things like this. In other words, during photoshoot I do not see model's body as an object of sexual desire. 

Great majority of  my photoshoots vent great. But there were two esceptions. First time it happend in Italy a couple of years ago.  I was doing nude photoshoot with a new model that I hired through local agency. By the end of the photoshoot I have noticed that the model got sexually excited. That time I pretended that I did not notice.

Second time it was very recently. I hired local alternative model through the Internet (not through MM). I was shooting spreads for my client, a private collector. During the shoot the model got so sexually excited that we had to stop photoshoot. Model was very confused and ashamed,  and honestly I did not know what to do. Photoshoot totally failed I did not get the shots I needed. But more importantly I have this ugly feeling that such an experience could psychologically traumatize the model. She is a beautiful female and aspiring model with great potential.  I still feel very sorry for her, although I do not think it was my fault.   I would apreciate your advice - how common this problem is, what should I do to avoid situations like this and what should be my behavior if this happens again?

Jul 05 14 07:34 pm Link

Model

Koryn

Posts: 39496

Boston, Massachusetts, US

If you were shooting explicit images for a private collector, why would her arousal be a "problem?" I don't understand.

Jul 05 14 07:38 pm Link

Photographer

Photographer Mario

Posts: 8

Westhampton, New York, US

I do not think the images were "explicit" - just regular spreads, I was going to convert them to B&W. Extra physiological details were not helpful...

Jul 05 14 07:44 pm Link

Model

Alabaster Crowley

Posts: 8283

Tucson, Arizona, US

Photographer Mario wrote:
I do not think the images were "explicit" - just regular spreads, I was going to convert them to B&W. Extra physiological details were not helpful...

So, let's get frank. She had moistness that you didn't want?

Jul 05 14 07:47 pm Link

Photographer

Photographer Mario

Posts: 8

Westhampton, New York, US

This is exactly right. She got so wet that we could not keep shooting.

Jul 05 14 07:49 pm Link

Photographer

Brooklyn Bridge Images

Posts: 13200

Brooklyn, New York, US

Dear Penthouse...

Jul 05 14 07:49 pm Link

Model

Koryn

Posts: 39496

Boston, Massachusetts, US

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Jul 05 14 07:57 pm Link

Photographer

Good Egg Productions

Posts: 16713

Orlando, Florida, US

Photographer Mario wrote:
This is exactly right. She got so wet that we could not keep shooting.

This is the most ridiculous thing I've ever heard.  Do you not have toilet paper where you shoot?

Jul 05 14 07:58 pm Link

Photographer

GeorgeMercado

Posts: 72

Pembroke Pines, Florida, US

Throw her a towel and let he wipe herself off, and give her time to compose herself.  It's a natural chemical reaction, I would simply reassure her that all is fine, that it wont affect the shoot and when she is comfortable keep shooting.

I used to manage female exotic dancers in my past, So i've gotten to the point, once you've seen one you seen them all.  Making her feel alienated in such an instance will traumatize her more than telling her its cool and making her feel comfortable.

Just my 2 cents smile The show goes on! I wouldn't stop shooting unless she dropped a deuce. and even then I would have directed her to the nearest toilet. lol

Jul 05 14 07:58 pm Link

Photographer

Ken Warren Photography

Posts: 933

GLENMOORE, Pennsylvania, US

Sexual arousal is not the only reason a woman might have more than the usual amount of moistness...

Jul 05 14 07:59 pm Link

Model

MelissaAnn

Posts: 3971

Seattle, Washington, US

Adult models make their own decisions, and how they end up feeling at the end (or during) the shoot isn't your fault as long as you're doing your job and staying professional/appropriate. 

There's no reason for you to feel bad if a model gets turned on, and making a big deal of it is just going to make the model feel even worse, or be more embarrassing for her.   

My advice would be this- if you notice a model get really wet, continue the shoot in a professional manner, as if nothing were wrong.  If the model apologizes, or verbalizes that she feels embarrassed/uncomfortable, let her know that it's not a big deal, and offer to let her take a break, or keep shooting if she feels comfortable.

Also remember, wet doesn't always equal sexually aroused.  Don't make assumptions.

Jul 05 14 08:01 pm Link

Model

Koryn

Posts: 39496

Boston, Massachusetts, US

Ken Warren Photography wrote:
Sexual arousal is not the only reason a woman might have more than the usual amount of moistness...

^^^

Frequently, during the ovulation phase of a woman's cycle, mucus will increase in volume, and get thicker in texture.

It just happens. Some people have to change their underwear more often during that time in their cycle. Doesn't really have anything to do with arousal.

Jul 05 14 08:02 pm Link

Photographer

Good Egg Productions

Posts: 16713

Orlando, Florida, US

Photographer Mario wrote:
I need some advice from photographers and especially from female models. To date, I have done numerous nude photo shoots with both male and female models, mostly for fine art photo projects. During these shoots I always  treat nude models the same way  as I treat fully clothed models - with respect and professionalism. Indeed, looking through the lens I think mostly about lighting, composition, focus, background and other things like this. In other words, during photoshoot I do not see model's body as an object of sexual desire. 

Great majority of  my photoshoots vent great. But there were two esceptions. First time it happend in Italy a couple of years ago.  I was doing nude photoshoot with a new model that I hired through local agency. By the end of the photoshoot I have noticed that the model got sexually excited. That time I pretended that I did not notice.

Second time it was very recently. I hired local alternative model through the Internet (not through MM). I was shooting spreads for my client, a private collector. During the shoot the model got so sexually excited that we had to stop photoshoot. Model was very confused and ashamed,  and honestly I did not know what to do. Photoshoot totally failed I did not get the shots I needed. But more importantly I have this ugly feeling that such an experience could psychologically traumatize the model. She is a beautiful female and aspiring model with great potential.  I still feel very sorry for her, although I do not think it was my fault.   I would apreciate your advice - how common this problem is, what should I do to avoid situations like this and what should be my behavior if this happens again?

I just wanted to quote this.  Just for funsies.

Jul 05 14 08:03 pm Link

Model

Alabaster Crowley

Posts: 8283

Tucson, Arizona, US

Koryn wrote:
https://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d172/jend1212/IGN/355e4602.gif

Same.

Jul 05 14 08:03 pm Link

Photographer

A-M-P

Posts: 18465

Orlando, Florida, US

Photographer Mario wrote:
This is exactly right. She got so wet that we could not keep shooting.

do you not believe in paper towels? wipe and keep shooting. Female arousal is not like a straight up hard on.

Unless I am missing something here

Jul 05 14 08:04 pm Link

Model

Alabaster Crowley

Posts: 8283

Tucson, Arizona, US

Ken Warren Photography wrote:
Sexual arousal is not the only reason a woman might have more than the usual amount of moistness...

Shhh don't ruin it

Jul 05 14 08:05 pm Link

Photographer

David Stone Imaging

Posts: 1032

Seattle, Washington, US

This topic has come up before...and there is always the question if the fluid is from self-lubrication or normal daily discharge.

I do mostly nudes...and it happens with about 25% of them.  Even though they might self-lubricate...it doesn't mean it is a reaction to you the photographer.  I'm older and overweight...so I can say that it happens as a natural thing.

At times it is so heavy I have politely asked the model to clean/wipe things.  We are usually far enough into the shoot that it is clear we have a professional relationship going, and quite often they ask me to do it for them...essentially do what I need to do to get the image I'm after.

Depending upon how long the woman has modeled...if she is relatively new...I will tell her that a good 25% of the models I work with experience the same thing.  I go about it as another day in the life...matter of fact...and this usually aleviates any embarrassment or self-conscious behaviour.

I've also had models start their period during a shoot.  It's all natural...and the less of a reaction you give the better things will be.

Jul 05 14 08:05 pm Link

Photographer

GeorgeMercado

Posts: 72

Pembroke Pines, Florida, US

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Jul 05 14 08:06 pm Link

Photographer

A-M-P

Posts: 18465

Orlando, Florida, US

Good Egg Productions wrote:

This is the most ridiculous thing I've ever heard.  Do you not have toilet paper where you shoot?

hahaha same thing I thought.

Jul 05 14 08:08 pm Link

Photographer

Light and Lens Studio

Posts: 3450

Sisters, Oregon, US

Photographer Mario wrote:
.................... During the shoot the model got so sexually excited that we had to stop photoshoot. Model was very confused and ashamed,  and honestly I did not know what to do. Photoshoot totally failed I did not get the shots I needed. But more importantly I have this ugly feeling that such an experience could psychologically traumatize the model. She is a beautiful female and aspiring model with great potential.  I still feel very sorry for her, although I do not think it was my fault.   I would apreciate your advice - how common this problem is, what should I do to avoid situations like this and what should be my behavior if this happens again?

Whose decision was it to stop the shoot?  If there were any trauma to the model it most likely was due to your issues and stopping the shoot, making her feel that there was something wrong with her getting aroused. 

If the wetness is an issue technically or asethetically, numerous suggestions for dealing with it have been made.  It's really not like the technical problems of launching the model into Low Earth Orbit.

I've seen this happen in both artistic and fetish shoots.  It's really not a big deal.

Jul 05 14 08:13 pm Link

Photographer

Good Egg Productions

Posts: 16713

Orlando, Florida, US

Light and Lens Studio wrote:
----  It's really not like the technical problems of launching the model into Low Earth Orbit. ----

This sentence wins the internet for today.

Here's your trophy.

https://www.southern-importers.com/images/100_Small_Trophy.jpg


It made me laugh out loud.

Jul 05 14 08:17 pm Link

Model

Koryn

Posts: 39496

Boston, Massachusetts, US

Good Egg Productions wrote:
It made me laugh out loud.

This whole thread really just deserves a gold star.

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Jul 05 14 08:20 pm Link

Photographer

Ken Warren Photography

Posts: 933

GLENMOORE, Pennsylvania, US

Alabaster Crowley wrote:

Shhh don't ruin it

I'm sorry, I was laughing too hard to think straight. lol

Jul 05 14 08:29 pm Link

Model

Gelsen Aripia

Posts: 1407

Toronto, Ontario, Canada

Photographer Mario wrote:
I need some advice from photographers and especially from female models. To date, I have done numerous nude photo shoots with both male and female models, mostly for fine art photo projects. During these shoots I always  treat nude models the same way  as I treat fully clothed models - with respect and professionalism. Indeed, looking through the lens I think mostly about lighting, composition, focus, background and other things like this. In other words, during photoshoot I do not see model's body as an object of sexual desire. 

Great majority of  my photoshoots vent great. But there were two esceptions. First time it happend in Italy a couple of years ago.  I was doing nude photoshoot with a new model that I hired through local agency. By the end of the photoshoot I have noticed that the model got sexually excited. That time I pretended that I did not notice.

Second time it was very recently. I hired local alternative model through the Internet (not through MM). I was shooting spreads for my client, a private collector. During the shoot the model got so sexually excited that we had to stop photoshoot. Model was very confused and ashamed,  and honestly I did not know what to do. Photoshoot totally failed I did not get the shots I needed. But more importantly I have this ugly feeling that such an experience could psychologically traumatize the model. She is a beautiful female and aspiring model with great potential.  I still feel very sorry for her, although I do not think it was my fault.   I would apreciate your advice - how common this problem is, what should I do to avoid situations like this and what should be my behavior if this happens again?

Maybe just keep taking pictures until she calms down, then give her the chance to wash up in the bathroom.  Then you can continue shooting, and getting the shots your client actually wants.  I don't think there's anything to be ashamed about with such work -- you or the model.

I've shot a couple of times with a guy who does tons of "intimacy" shoots, and he says that sometimes his models want him to get naked too because it makes them even more aroused...

Jul 05 14 08:31 pm Link

Photographer

Art of the nude

Posts: 12067

Grand Rapids, Michigan, US

David Stone Imaging wrote:
This topic has come up before...and there is always the question if the fluid is from self-lubrication or normal daily discharge.

I do mostly nudes...and it happens with about 25% of them.  Even though they might self-lubricate...it doesn't mean it is a reaction to you the photographer.  I'm older and overweight...so I can say that it happens as a natural thing.

At times it is so heavy I have politely asked the model to clean/wipe things.  We are usually far enough into the shoot that it is clear we have a professional relationship going, and quite often they ask me to do it for them...essentially do what I need to do to get the image I'm after.

Depending upon how long the woman has modeled...if she is relatively new...I will tell her that a good 25% of the models I work with experience the same thing.  I go about it as another day in the life...matter of fact...and this usually aleviates any embarrassment or self-conscious behaviour.

I've also had models start their period during a shoot.  It's all natural...and the less of a reaction you give the better things will be.

WHAT???!!!!!!

I've shot over 100 models in some sort of "open leg" situation.  I've noticed "wetness" in perhaps five of them, none of which required any attention, let alone ME doing something about it.

Jul 05 14 08:31 pm Link

Photographer

Christopher Carter

Posts: 7777

Indianapolis, Indiana, US

Dear Penthouse...

Jul 05 14 08:35 pm Link

Photographer

Photographer Mario

Posts: 8

Westhampton, New York, US

Light and Lens Studio wrote:
Whose decision was it to stop the shoot? 
.

The decision was her's. I thought she was too embarassed.  I did not feel we should continue.

Jul 05 14 08:37 pm Link

Model

D A N I

Posts: 4627

Little Rock, Arkansas, US

Photographer Mario wrote:
This is exactly right. She got so wet that we could not keep shooting.

Baby wipes have more than one use

Jul 05 14 08:40 pm Link

Photographer

Tar C

Posts: 22

Calabasas, California, US

hmmm. this sounds suspect.

Jul 05 14 08:46 pm Link

Photographer

Llobet Photography

Posts: 4915

Fort Lauderdale, Florida, US

O_o neutral

Jul 05 14 08:47 pm Link

Photographer

Good Egg Productions

Posts: 16713

Orlando, Florida, US

Danielle Reid wrote:

Baby wipes have more than one use

I heard that they are made of babies.

Jul 05 14 08:50 pm Link

Photographer

Dorola

Posts: 479

Toronto, Ontario, Canada

I've seen the white moistness many times during shoots that I have done. I never assumed that the model was getting aroused. If the model was following the plan we set, I just kept shooting. If I thought is was a concern. I called for a short break and the model could do whatever she wanted with the time. Some removed the moistness, some didn't. From my own experience with women, it is just part of her self cleaning system and it runs at its own speed.

Jul 05 14 08:50 pm Link

Photographer

Cherrystone

Posts: 37171

Columbus, Ohio, US

Ummmm......I got nuthin' at the moment, I need to collect my thoughts. BRB.

Jul 05 14 08:52 pm Link

Photographer

Good Egg Productions

Posts: 16713

Orlando, Florida, US

Ok, wait..

Let's for a moment assume that this isn't completely made up bullshit.  Walk me through how this actually went.

Model is hired to do black and white spreads for a private client.  At some point in the shoot, it becomes evident that she is so turned on that she's so wet that SHE ends the shoot?  And then she is confused and ashamed.  And then what?

Did you tell her that because she was so wet you couldn't use these photos?  How did this actually happen?  Did you eventually find someone to shoot for your private client?  Did you ever talk to this model again?

This is definitely Saturday night on Model Mayhem.

Jul 05 14 09:01 pm Link

Photographer

GER Photography

Posts: 8463

Imperial, California, US

Oh my!!%)

Jul 05 14 09:09 pm Link

Model

Alana Miles

Posts: 6459

Alma, Colorado, US

Photographer Mario wrote:

The decision was her's. I thought she was too embarassed.  I did not feel we should continue.

You understand that's a contradicting statement right?

The decision was hers.
I did not feel we should continue.

So the decision was hers since you embarrassed the hell out of her?

Okay.

Depending in the model and the time of the month...not to mention the content one is shooting or how long it's been since they've... .... ..... Many girls I know will literally drip if it is a combination of all three.

If you're an adult, you tell her that she needs to freshen up in A VERY VERY POLITE WAY and continue on...

Bounty the quicker picker up errrrrr

Jul 05 14 09:10 pm Link

Photographer

Cherrystone

Posts: 37171

Columbus, Ohio, US

David Stone Imaging wrote:
This topic has come up before...and there is always the question if the fluid is from self-lubrication or normal daily discharge.

I do mostly nudes...and it happens with about 25% of them.  Even though they might self-lubricate...it doesn't mean it is a reaction to you the photographer.  I'm older and overweight...so I can say that it happens as a natural thing.

At times it is so heavy I have politely asked the model to clean/wipe things. We are usually far enough into the shoot that it is clear we have a professional relationship going, and quite often they ask me to do it for them...essentially do what I need to do to get the image I'm after.

Depending upon how long the woman has modeled...if she is relatively new...I will tell her that a good 25% of the models I work with experience the same thing.  I go about it as another day in the life...matter of fact...and this usually aleviates any embarrassment or self-conscious behaviour.

I've also had models start their period during a shoot.  It's all natural...and the less of a reaction you give the better things will be.

Uhhhhh.......where is that self immolation gif when you need it?

AHA! big_smile

https://crayfisher.files.wordpress.com/2012/08/self-immolate.gif?w=640

Jul 05 14 09:10 pm Link

Model

Alana Miles

Posts: 6459

Alma, Colorado, US

Good Egg Productions wrote:
Ok, wait..

Let's for a moment assume that this isn't completely made up bullshit.  Walk me through how this actually went.

Model is hired to do black and white spreads for a private client.  At some point in the shoot, it becomes evident that she is so turned on that she's so wet that SHE ends the shoot?  And then she is confused and ashamed.  And then what?

Did you tell her that because she was so wet you couldn't use these photos?  How did this actually happen?  Did you eventually find someone to shoot for your private client?  Did you ever talk to this model again?

This is definitely Saturday night on Model Mayhem.

And what client wouldn't want a seriously "aroused" wet girl?

TAKE NAKED PICTURES OF HER, BUT IF SHE IS AROUSED I AINT BUYING ASSHOLE...
...
.......
..........

said no one ever

Jul 05 14 09:12 pm Link

Photographer

Brooklyn Bridge Images

Posts: 13200

Brooklyn, New York, US

Good Egg Productions wrote:
Let's for a moment assume that this isn't completely made up bullshit.  ?

Cmon
Thats not possible
hienvy

Jul 05 14 09:15 pm Link

Photographer

Good Egg Productions

Posts: 16713

Orlando, Florida, US

Brooklyn Bridge Images wrote:

Cmon
Thats not possible
hienvy

Why would he lie?  He has a legitimate problem with girls getting so turned on at his shoots, probably because he's so attractive or he's wearing Sex Panther.  60% of the time, it works every time.

And he's come to the knowledge base of Model Mayhem to learn what to do when it inevitably happens again.

And here we are, making jokes and silly motion gifs about it.  Shame on us.  Shame.  On.  Us.

Jul 05 14 09:22 pm Link