Forums > Off-Topic Discussion > A PSA for those who mention the state of Nevada

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Jay Leavitt

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Las Vegas, Nevada, US

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fmUf9FDUOTk

It's Ne-va-da
Not Ne-vah-da



And yes, it means that much to us.

Aug 21 14 11:52 pm Link

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D A N I

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Little Rock, Arkansas, US

Good to know

Aug 22 14 12:08 am Link

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Lovely Day Media

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Vineland, New Jersey, US

Your phonetics don't help me much. Either one could be pronounced either way. Obviously one is one and the other is the other but which is which?

For instance, does "vah" rhyme with "bah" as in bah humbug?  Does "va" sound like it does in "vaginal"? (yes, I did that on purpose LOL)

I'm only trying to be a little bit of a smart aleck here. I am genuinely interested in knowing the answer.  I live in Vineland, NJ. We know when someone not from here is talking about it because they say Vine LAAAND. When we say it, it sounds more like Vinelend.

Aug 22 14 01:14 am Link

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Robb Mann

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Baltimore, Maryland, US

I will be there this weekend. I already know the most important thing a visitor can know about Kneevadah - any car with Cali plates will get a ticket. I will be begging the rental guy for any car with Co or Utah plates. Even Tejas. But no Cali.

Aug 22 14 02:38 am Link

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Justin

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Fort Collins, Colorado, US

Hearing people pronounce Illinois "Ill-in-oiz" and Westminster "West-minister" and Colorado "Col-uh-rad-uh" and knowing that whether you say "Louis-vill" or "Luavl" tells whether you're talking about Colorado or Kentucky, I can't get too worked up over whether given state residents like a short A or a soft A. But I'll do my best to be polite about it in my next trip to Lost Wages, should that ever happen.

Aug 22 14 05:17 am Link

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Jules NYC

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New York, New York, US

Do any drunken Irish Bostonians ever come into town?

lol

Aug 22 14 05:19 am Link

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udor

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New York, New York, US

There is a local way of pronouncing a prominent street in NYC.

Houston Street... which divides parts of lower Manhattan into "North of Houston" = Noho and "South of Houston" = Soho...

Non New Yorkers, pronounce "Houston" same as in "John Houston" or "Houston, Texas"... but the locals pronounce it "House-ton" as in a dwelling "house" and then "-ton".

A lesson I learned within the first few weeks after relocating from Frankfurt/Germany to the city... smile

Aug 22 14 05:38 am Link

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Jules NYC

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New York, New York, US

udor wrote:
There is a local way of pronouncing a prominent street in NYC.

Houston Street... which divides parts of lower Manhattan into "North of Houston" = Noho and "South of Houston" = Soho...

Non New Yorkers, pronounce "Houston" same as in "John Houston" or "Houston, Texas"... but the locals pronounce it "House-ton" as in a dwelling "house" and then "-ton".

A lesson I learned within the first few weeks after relocating from Frankfurt/Germany to the city... smile

Great example

Aug 22 14 05:41 am Link

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udor

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New York, New York, US

Jules NYC wrote:

Great example

Thank you, Julie!

Sometimes, I get lucky and make sense! smile

Aug 22 14 06:44 am Link

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Legeros Photography LLC

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Sterling, Virginia, US

Lovely Day Media wrote:
Your phonetics don't help me much. Either one could be pronounced either way. Obviously one is one and the other is the other but which is which?

For instance, does "vah" rhyme with "bah" as in bah humbug?  Does "va" sound like it does in "vaginal"? (yes, I did that on purpose LOL)

I'm only trying to be a little bit of a smart aleck here. I am genuinely interested in knowing the answer.  I live in Vineland, NJ. We know when someone not from here is talking about it because they say Vine LAAAND. When we say it, it sounds more like Vinelend.

Vin...is that vin as in VIN Number?....doh!:}

Aug 22 14 06:47 am Link

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Legeros Photography LLC

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Sterling, Virginia, US

udor wrote:
There is a local way of pronouncing a prominent street in NYC.

Houston Street... which divides parts of lower Manhattan into "North of Houston" = Noho and "South of Houston" = Soho...

Non New Yorkers, pronounce "Houston" same as in "John Houston" or "Houston, Texas"... but the locals pronounce it "House-ton" as in a dwelling "house" and then "-ton".

A lesson I learned within the first few weeks after relocating from Frankfurt/Germany to the city... smile

That's kinda like - alles klar, aber keiner weiß bescheide!

Aug 22 14 06:51 am Link

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Christopher Hartman

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Buena Park, California, US

I know of Las Vegas, but what is this 'Nevada' you're talking about?

Aug 22 14 07:42 am Link

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Christopher Hartman

Posts: 54196

Buena Park, California, US

udor wrote:
There is a local way of pronouncing a prominent street in NYC.

Houston Street... which divides parts of lower Manhattan into "North of Houston" = Noho and "South of Houston" = Soho...

Non New Yorkers, pronounce "Houston" same as in "John Houston" or "Houston, Texas"... but the locals pronounce it "House-ton" as in a dwelling "house" and then "-ton".

A lesson I learned within the first few weeks after relocating from Frankfurt/Germany to the city... smile

Oh man...dude...my ONLY time ever being in New York, my "hotel" was on Houston.  Crazy place.  It was attached to some...damn...wish I remembered...I think it was South American...anyhow, attached to a small restaurant.  No signs, numbers, nothing.  Had to call to have the guy come out.  Before anyone freaks out and thinks I'm dumb (or maybe I still am), this place was recommended to me by a friend who is originally French but was living in NYC for over a decade.  Anyhow, this place was run by friends of his that catered to visiting French.  Affordable, clean, and nice.  Just hard to find.

Anyhow...that first night out, I took a long walk and got lost.  I approached a woman asked where Houston (Hugh stun) Street is.  She didn't know.  But they walked a bit with me and it was ONE BLOCK AWAY.  "Oh, you mean Houston (house ton)."

I just stared at her with a blank face.  I'm thinking to myself, seriously?  You've never heard of Houston, TX so pick up on the fact that people outside of New York might pronounce your houston street was hughstun?

So...the next night, I'm on the phone talking with family and relaying this stupid story and who walked by?  That Asian actress from Greys Anatomy...is it Sandra Oh?  anyhow, she walks by, over hears my conversation and I can hear her laughing about it with her date.

That's all...I had a GREAT weekend. I think New York is awesome for the one time I was there...but seriously...some of you NYC are dumbshits.  big_smile

Aug 22 14 07:49 am Link

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BeatnikDiva

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Fayetteville, Arkansas, US

udor wrote:
There is a local way of pronouncing a prominent street in NYC.

Houston Street... which divides parts of lower Manhattan into "North of Houston" = Noho and "South of Houston" = Soho...

Non New Yorkers, pronounce "Houston" same as in "John Houston" or "Houston, Texas"... but the locals pronounce it "House-ton" as in a dwelling "house" and then "-ton".

A lesson I learned within the first few weeks after relocating from Frankfurt/Germany to the city... smile

There is a "House-ton," here in Arkansas.  There is also an El "Dor-ay-do."  Those bother me to no end.

The one that is the worst, though, is "Stuttgart," (pronounced like 'strut').  Just...NO!  Since I spent so much time in the ACTUAL Stuttgart, the pronunciation here in Arkansas is just...ugh.

Aug 22 14 08:03 am Link

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GRMACK

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Bakersfield, California, US

I always got a kick out of "Worsher and dryer" for appliances.  Seems a southern accent at times, but anyone from Arkansas speaks funny anyway so they get a pass.  smile

Those "nuclear" (Nuk-cu-ler, Nu-clear, etc.) test ranges in Nevada can have a funny sound too at times, even from TV news people.

Aug 22 14 08:14 am Link

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Wye

Posts: 10811

Toronto, Ontario, Canada

I thought it was pronounced like Canada

NEV-uh-duh

Aug 22 14 08:18 am Link

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Laura UnBound

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Toronto, Ontario, Canada

Houston and Greenwich drove me up the wall.

We have a strachan street here. Pronounced "strawn". neutral

Aug 22 14 08:24 am Link

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NothingIsRealButTheGirl

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Los Angeles, California, US

Well I'm from Providence.

We say Ne-vah-da.

It just ends up coming out Ne-va-da.

Aug 22 14 08:35 am Link

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Caradoc

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Scottsdale, Arizona, US

Laura UnBound wrote:
We have a strachan street here. Pronounced "strawn". neutral

Have to love the Scots. And the Welsh.

Around here, it's easy to spot the tourists and recent immigrants.

"Saguaro." Pronounced "Sah-WAH-row." Not "Say-jew-air-oh," or "Say-goo-air-oh."

"Tucson." Pronounced "TOO-sawn," not "Tuck-sun."

"Prescott." Pronounced "PRESS-kit," not "Press-COT."

"Phoenix." Pronounced "FEE-nicks," not "FOE-nix," not "FEE-NEEKS," or any number of other weirdnesses.

Aug 22 14 08:43 am Link

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NothingIsRealButTheGirl

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Los Angeles, California, US

We have Worcester, which is pronounced Wooster, or more accurately if you are local, Woostah.

Aug 22 14 08:45 am Link

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Brian Diaz

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Danbury, Connecticut, US

Let's call the whole thing off.

So, are they also changing the etymology of the name?

Edit: Ah, I see NBC already made the tomato reference.

And they mentioned that "nevada" is Spanish for "snow-covered," but the didn't mention why locals mispronounce it the way they do.

Aug 22 14 08:49 am Link

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Justin

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Fort Collins, Colorado, US

More regionalisms.  People from Pueblo, CO, are fond of calling their town "Pee-ABE-low"  Buena Vista is often "Bue-na Vista." 

And no one here knows how to pronounce Saguache, not really.

Aug 22 14 08:51 am Link

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SayCheeZ!

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Las Vegas, Nevada, US

-JAY- wrote:
It's Ne-va-da
Not Ne-vah-da



And yes, it means that much to us.

.... unless you're talking about the town in Missouri of the same name.
There it's pronounced Ne-VAY-da.
http://www.forvo.com/word/nevada,_missouri/

Aug 22 14 08:59 am Link

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Caradoc

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Scottsdale, Arizona, US

Justin wrote:
And no one here knows how to pronounce Saguache, not really.

I'd go with "saw-WATCH-ay," matching "saguaro" and "huarache." Maybe "saw-WATCH," depending on whether that last "e" had an accent or not.

What do they do? "Sag-WATCH?"

Aug 22 14 09:16 am Link

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BeatnikDiva

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Fayetteville, Arkansas, US

NothingIsRealButTheGirl wrote:
We have Worcester, which is pronounced Wooster, or more accurately if you are local, Woostah.

My dad used Worcestershire sauce, and he always pronounced it "Wooster."  I do it that way, or else "Wooster-sher."

Aug 22 14 09:32 am Link

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ethasleftthebuilding

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Key West, Florida, US

This thread reminds me of a local joke.

Two salesmen were in a car driving through Mexia, Texas and having a disagreement over how Mexia is pronounced.

The man driving argued it is "Mex-ee-ah".

The passenger argued it is "Ma-HAY-uh".

To settle it, they decided to stop and ask a local.  On the next block they saw a young man sitting on a bench eating an ice cream cone.

The driver stopped, rolled down his window and asked, "Would you please tell us where we are?"  "...and say it really slow so we understand," the passenger added.

The young man looked around, sort of puzzled at the request and then replied very slowly, "Dairy Queen".

So there was the joke, but one time when I heard it told, there was an old man from Mexia standing nearby and overheard it.

He interjected, "they are both wrong, it's dang town is called "Ma-HAIR."

Aug 22 14 10:10 am Link

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Caradoc

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Scottsdale, Arizona, US

ernst tischler wrote:
The young man looked around, sort of puzzled at the request and then replied very slowly, "Dairy Queen".

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pzRsVc4yqbI

Aug 22 14 10:13 am Link

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Jerry Nemeth

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Dearborn, Michigan, US

udor wrote:
There is a local way of pronouncing a prominent street in NYC.

Houston Street... which divides parts of lower Manhattan into "North of Houston" = Noho and "South of Houston" = Soho...

Non New Yorkers, pronounce "Houston" same as in "John Houston" or "Houston, Texas"... but the locals pronounce it "House-ton" as in a dwelling "house" and then "-ton".

A lesson I learned within the first few weeks after relocating from Frankfurt/Germany to the city... smile

I already know that.  I've lived in New York.

Aug 22 14 10:14 am Link

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Lohkee

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Maricopa, Arizona, US

NothingIsRealButTheGirl wrote:
We have Worcester, which is pronounced Wooster, or more accurately if you are local, Woostah.

Oh dear god in heaven.

Aug 22 14 10:16 am Link

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Lovely Day Media

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Vineland, New Jersey, US

Legeros Photography LLC wrote:
Vin...is that vin as in VIN Number?....doh!:}

That's another common mispronunciation. I guess they don't see the E or maybe they get their grapes off a vin, too. smile

Vineland is Vineland because grapes used to grow here in abundance. Charles Landis (who founded Vineland) convinced Welch's to open a factory here. It's not here anymore and I don't know where it was but it was here at one time.

Whatever the case, it's all good.  The next town over is Bue-na. smile

Aug 22 14 10:36 am Link

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scrymettet

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Quebec, Quebec, Canada

on dit comme on veut.
*nods*

Aug 22 14 11:37 am Link

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Ralph Easy

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Sydney, New South Wales, Australia

On my way to Ne Va Da from Knee You Ork I had to pass by Arch Can Saas (as in: Saab) and nobody knew what that place was when they were the very people living there...

(the right way, they said was this:)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=We2VJKTvkCA

I had to stop by and visit a New Kellar power plant.

.

Aug 22 14 06:00 pm Link

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udor

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New York, New York, US

ernst tischler wrote:
This thread reminds me of a local joke.

borat

This couple is on a road trip and is passing through La Jolla, CA, when they get hungry... So, they do a pit stop at a fast food joint and because they can't agree about how to pronounce or spell La Jolla properly, they are asking a worker at the joint:

"Excuse me, Miss! How do you spell the name of this place?"

She says: "Oh... that's easy: B.u.r.g.e.r. K.i.n.g. ... "            evilgrin

Aug 22 14 06:07 pm Link

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A S Photography

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Newark, Delaware, US

When I was growing up in Southern California, there was a mountain (San Jacinto). It was pronounced San Ya-sin-toe.  10 - 15 years later, after the number of Spanish speakers had increased, the pronunciation changed to San Ha-seen-toe.  Then I moved to Houston, Texas for a few years.  There is a street (San Jacinto).  It is pronounced San Ja-sen-to.

Aug 22 14 06:33 pm Link

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Monad Studios

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Santa Rosa, California, US

udor wrote:
There is a local way of pronouncing a prominent street in NYC.

Houston Street... which divides parts of lower Manhattan into "North of Houston" = Noho and "South of Houston" = Soho...

Non New Yorkers, pronounce "Houston" same as in "John Houston" or "Houston, Texas"... but the locals pronounce it "House-ton" as in a dwelling "house" and then "-ton".

A lesson I learned within the first few weeks after relocating from Frankfurt/Germany to the city... smile

You probably wouldn't want to know how Chicagoans pronounce "Goethe Street".

Aug 22 14 07:33 pm Link

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Art Silva

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Santa Barbara, California, US

Funny how the white politicians and media are dead set on correcting a spanish word that is not suppose to or shouldn't sound spanish.

... it's the 'merican way I guess.

Aug 22 14 07:55 pm Link

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Jim Ball

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Frontenac, Kansas, US

I'm about thirty miles from Nevada, Missouri.  The locals pronounce it Neh*Vay*Duh.

50 miles south of here is Miami, Oklahoma, which the locals insist is pronounced My*am*uh...

The Miami Tribe of Oklahoma is headquartered there, and the town is named after the tribe.  The tribe pronounces it's name as My*am*ee.

Aug 22 14 09:18 pm Link

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kickfight

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Portland, Oregon, US

Art Silva wrote:
Funny how the white politicians and media are dead set on correcting a spanish word that is not suppose to or shouldn't sound spanish.

The huge-ass mountain range for which the state is named can be pronounced correctly either way. However, even though it's not etymologically-correct, the name of the state should be pronounced as the locals prefer it to be said: nəˈvædə

Hell, if we were bound to etymologically-correct, Florida would have to be pronounced Flo-RI-da instead of FLO-ri-da. hmm

Aug 22 14 09:44 pm Link

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Fred Greissing

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Los Angeles, California, US

Nevada is a Spanish word.

The name was given to the area by Spanish explorers... Nevada for the Sierra Nevada (snowy mountains).

So to be correct it should be pronounced Ne-vah-da.

There are more people with Mexican roots than others.

The principal ancestries of Nevada's residents in 2009 have been surveyed to be the following:

20.8% Mexican
13.3% German
10.0% Irish
9.2% English
6.3% Italian
3.8% American
3.6% Scandinavian (1.4% Norwegian, 1.4% Swedish, and 0.8% Danish).

Plenty of Germans too.... I wonder how Arnold would pronounce it.....

Well I guess it' jut another case of Americans screwing up another European word.

Aug 22 14 09:53 pm Link

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kickfight

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Portland, Oregon, US

Fred Greissing wrote:
Nevada is a Spanish word.

The name was given to the area by Spanish explorers... Nevada for the Sierra Nevada (snowy mountains).

So to be correct it should be pronounced Ne-vah-da.

Yes, but to be consistent, we'd then have to pronounce Los Angeles as "Los Anjeles" (not to mention the pronunciation of Florida mentioned above).

Aug 22 14 10:06 pm Link