FlirtynFun Photography wrote:
You have your opinion and a million others disagree.

That must be quite reassuring, since the crowd is always right.

Harmlessly passing your time in the grassland away...

kickfight wrote:

That must be quite reassuring, since the crowd is always right.

actually it must be quite lonely trying to change someone's personal opinion on something as subjective as music.

kickfight wrote:
That must be quite reassuring, since the crowd is always right.

FlirtynFun Photography wrote:
actually it must be quite lonely trying to change someone's personal opinion on something as subjective as music.

I agree. So stop being so lonely while also failing to convert me by invoking argumentum ad populum.

Art Silva wrote:
As far as Rodger Waters, yes I agree, he is that missing link to a "total" Pink Floyd sound but it's been 30 years and we will never see a reunion especially now that Rick is gone.

Would have to somewhat agree... BUT... if Gilmore, Watson and Waters could put their differences aside and jam together just one more time... something magical could result.  'The Endless River' has it's moments... but it doesn't quite shine as a total package...

kickfight wrote:
That must be quite reassuring, since the crowd is always right.

Harmlessly passing your time in the grassland away...

Kicking around on a piece of ground in your hometown, waiting for someone or something to show you the way.

kickfight wrote:
That must be quite reassuring, since the crowd is always right.

Harmlessly passing your time in the grassland away...

Justin wrote:
Kicking around on a piece of ground in your hometown, waiting for someone or something to show you the way.

Ticking away the moments that make up a dull day
You fritter and waste the hours in an offhand way.

...and talk to yourself as you die

Select Models wrote:
Would have to somewhat agree... BUT... if Gilmore, Watson and Waters could put their differences aside and jam together just one more time... something magical could result.

i think he's too busy with holmes.

Select Models wrote:
Would have to somewhat agree... BUT... if Gilmore, Watson and Waters could put their differences aside and jam together just one more time... something magical could result.

GK photo wrote:
i think he's too busy with holmes.

Yup.



(...and my wife's all like DO EEEET)

kickfight wrote:
I agree. So stop being so lonely while also failing to convert me by invoking argumentum ad populum.

You forgot nauseum.

kickfight wrote:
I agree. So stop being so lonely while also failing to convert me by invoking argumentum ad populum.

Cherrystone wrote:
You forgot nauseum.

Well, that's one's perma-implied. MM forums are, after all, "all nauseam, all the time!!"

kickfight wrote:
Well, that's one's perma-implied. MM forums are, after all, "all nauseam, all the time!!"

Yeah but....some are soooo much better at the nauseam thing, than others.
Part of the entertainment factor in these here parts.

Cherrystone wrote:
Yeah but....some are soooo much better at the nauseam thing, than others.
Part of the entertainment factor in these here parts.

True that.

GDS Photos wrote:
I will never thank r W (the live one) for breaking the band.  His solo albums are well made but exercises in self delusion.  gave G has some good tracks on his solo stuff.  The subsequent Floyd albums were good but not Floyd.

waters' solo records are indeed self-indulgent, but they are still finely crafted musical exercises. and hell, i'd pay for nothing more than his incessant disdain for andrew lloyd webber. but he does have a head as big as that pig that flew above battersea.

they should have figured it out. the wall took too much out of the relationship between gilmour and waters. still, they were always fighting over material and roles, all the way back to meddle. and yet, i can always enjoy what they did for that fleeting moment in the musical time-space landscape. it was pure genius.

plus, i got to see it three times live. shows that i'll never forget.

Tony-S wrote:
At any rate, in terms of the production it's pretty strong; up there with Dark Side of the Moon, Alan Parsons' Turn of a Friendly Card and Peter Gabriel's So.

Are you drawing a distinction between production and content?

I have to say, Dark Side had pretty powerful content for me. Listen, son, said the man with the gun, there's room for you inside. Hanging on in quiet desperation. Us and Them, in toto. The anguish and sorrow in the Great Gig.

If the content was up to that, I'll go break down the doors right now to get it. I'm a little dubious, though.

Tony-S wrote:
I wish they'd redo DSotM in 5.1, though. That would probably be cool if they did it right.

i've had it on sacd for years. it's not all that great in 5.1. the clocks at the beginning of time are basically the highlight of the 5.1 mix. i still like stereo, but i have a great sound system, that is capable of really nice sound-staging on great stereo mixes/mastering.

there are people who ripped it to dvd audio, but you'd be stealing to get it.

pf was doing surround sound during their live shows years ago. it was very majestic in a live setting, especially if you were sitting near the sound board.. but in my living room, i still like stereo.

Tony-S wrote:
I thought the SACD was just a 4-channel reproduction of the original quadraphonic production?

nope, 5.1

GK photo wrote:

nope, 5.1

Well, maybe it was the remastering to 5.1 that screwed it up. That's too bad, at any rate.

Tony-S wrote:
Well, maybe it was the remastering to 5.1 that screwed it up. That's too bad, at any rate.

it makes for an interesting listen, but i still prefer the stereo mix.

plus, even though pf was doing the surround sound stuff live in the 70's (and rather well, i might add), they still suffered with a mono mix coming from the stage. it was nice to have solos swirling around your head, and all the various aural stimuli that they pumped through the sound system, but at the end of the day (night), it was still the playing that was magical.

i don't know if there are any bands left that do that kind of sound mixing live. or--more likely--if there are any bands that could pull it off.

and in the same vein, if you've ever seen (heard) what walter murch did with the original 2.0 sound mix from apocalypse now (using the original source material), it is breathtaking. the sound mix on the blu ray disc (with the added beauty of the uncompressed audio tracks) is mighty impressive.

Kozmina wrote:
I leave for over a yr, come back n this is the first thread I see. Filled with some of my fav MMers talking about the greatest band ever!!!!

I knew there's a reason I like you.