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Well, however anyone wants to justify it, it's not right. I'm not saying that people are bad people for doing it, but we all know the law and making excuses doesn't make it right, no matter how "Robin Hood" the explanation is...... Dec 13 05 03:33 pm Link I'm a poor student and wouldn't have been able to learn the software without piracy. When I get hired by a company I'll ask to use what I'm used to and so will other former students, thus ensuring a profit for adobe/macromedia/discreet etc. Dec 13 05 04:06 pm Link an ak-47 can use rounds from an m-16...is that bullet piracy??? Dec 13 05 05:28 pm Link Ok, this is getting too high strung. If we were talking in a bar, we would have probably been in a brawl by now, and i don't like that. So I'm just gonna say let's agree to disagree. I have my opinion based on my Democrato-Socialist beliefs and you have your republican beliefs. let's just call it a difference of opinion for now. Dec 13 05 09:08 pm Link Hartsoe wrote: The photographers that are trying to reach that level. Last year I bought adobe cs, but before that I had adobe 7.0, and it was a pirated version. Between buying a editing program and buying a new camera, I chose the camera. I paid for it when I could afford it. Is it stealing? Yes. Do I feel bad about it? No. Dec 13 05 09:24 pm Link BCG wrote: Huh? 7.62mm isn't close to a .223. Dec 13 05 09:26 pm Link area291 wrote: If size of your space doesn't matter, as you started out saying, why did oyu just make two points then that revolve around space - "less than 2000 gross square feet" and "2000 or more gross square feet" seems to me then that size of your space has LOTS to do with it Dec 13 05 10:34 pm Link JBPhoto wrote: Cool, so you won't mind if I grab a couple of your photos then and pass them around, if it's okay to violate one copyright, then it's okay to violate them all right??? Dec 13 05 10:38 pm Link Satat wrote: Since you're a student, visti Academic Superstore, you can buy complete, full version software at a severely discounted rate. It's called an "Education Version", but it's still the full, uncrippled version and Photoshop is one of the ones offered. Dec 13 05 10:43 pm Link William Kious wrote: So, you have never stolen anything, Not time from an employer, not doing your job or goofing off at work, not change off the street, nothing? Dec 13 05 10:45 pm Link I remember this same thread a while ago on Dpreview and it didn't really get anywhere on there either. All I can say is yes, I have a downloaded copy of the Photoshop CS2 CD that I use all the time. I would never have been able to afford it any other way. And using the keygen is much more handier than calling Adobe every time I want to reformat my system even IF I did purchase it. Dec 13 05 10:52 pm Link BasementStudios wrote: If you passed his photos around marked with information about the artist, wouldn't that just be free advertising? I'd say go ahead, I'll even print you up a case of 4x6's to hand out to everyone you see walking down the street. and just as everyone would know the singer's name from the cd cover, they'd know my name from the name on the back of the print. Dec 13 05 10:57 pm Link Star wrote: Once. When I was about 7 years old. It earned me a trip to the woodshed. It depends on what you consider "goofing off" on the job. Change off the street? You can't steal an object that has no owner. Dec 13 05 11:13 pm Link Dossett Photography wrote: Thank god i didn't have to say it. and by the way, the AK-47 is no longer in production. Russian military uses the AK-74 with a 5.45x39mm bullet that is slimmer, longer, and lighter so it can travel longer distances, be more accurate, and the AK-74M version rocks and i want one. Dec 13 05 11:30 pm Link Alexei Fomin wrote: at ease young privates...having been an agent for the mossad, the first thing they teach is is that the AK 47 comes chambered in 3 rounds...5.45 .223 and 7.62...if you get a reciever chambered in .223 then it can use the same ammo as the m-16...some are modded out to use the same clips...it is merely a question of what round is the gun chambered for and not any special function of the gun. Dec 14 05 12:01 am Link BCG wrote: LMFAO Dec 14 05 12:06 am Link gotta love a unit who answers ONLY to God. Dec 14 05 12:14 am Link Alexei Fomin wrote: As long as you realize that: Hartsoe wrote: Would you have felt bad if you'd stolen the camera instead of the software? Satat wrote: Compare that to: "I'm a poor student and wouldn't have been able to learn to drive if I hadn't stolen a car." Dec 14 05 12:43 am Link BCG wrote: not a boyscout, a russian who researches. and is only starting researching firearms modifications. and so far what i knew was that the ak 47 was factory made for 7.62's. most of my random knowledge comes from the library, so sure i am not as knowledgeable as someone with military experience, but i am usually better educated than the average joe on most things. Dec 14 05 01:12 am Link BCG wrote: my company had a huge sign in the cafeteria basically a picture of handcuffs saying that using software illegaly is a serious crime. Dec 14 05 01:18 am Link William Kious wrote: Change on the street has an owner, the person who lost it. That five dollar bill could be someone's lunch. Dec 14 05 02:00 am Link Hartsoe wrote: Uhm - the above mentioned quote is from Dosset Photography not from me... Dec 14 05 02:34 am Link Alexei Fomin wrote: It has nothing to do with politics. Dec 14 05 10:18 am Link BasementStudios wrote: Well, to make sure you understood the post, you would have to steal one good photo and nine shitty ones along with it. I don't have nine shitty ones, sorry. Dec 15 05 06:11 am Link AK-47 M-16 thing. The AK-47 uses a 7.62x39mm Round. The M-16 / AR-15 uses a 5.56x45mm Round (soft bullet) that is a .223 Remington The M-60 however also used the 7.62 round, which you would think made the ammo interchangable with the AK-47. However, the M60 uses the 7.62mm NATO round which is 7.62 mm x 51 mm (having a longer neck than the 7.62 mm x 39 mm round used by the soviets) General AK-47 Information Caliber 7.62x39 mm Action: Gas operated, rotating bolt with 2 lugs Overall length: 870 mm Barrel length: 415 mm Weight: 4,300 g with empty magazine, 4,876 g loaded Magazine capacity 30 rds (40 rds box magazines and 75 rds drums) Sighting range, m: 800 Cyclic rate of fire 600 rds/min Practical rate of fire, single shots 90-100 rds/min; bursts 400 rds/min Muzzle velocity: 780 m/s The following extract comes from US Army Field Manual 100-2-3 - The Soviet Army; Troops Organization and Equipment published in June 1991. The publication was approved for public release with unlimited distribution (ie may be freely used). The entry provided covered the AK-47, AKS, AKM and the AKMS military assault rifles Description: The original AK was also known as the AK-47. It was a gas-operated, selective-fire weapon. Like all 7.62-mm Kalashnikov assault rifles, it fired the Soviet 7.62 x 39-mm M1943 round and used a standard 30-round curved box magazine. The AK came in two versions: one with a fixed wooden stock, and another, the AKS, with a folding metal stock issued primarily to parachutist and armor troops. Except for the differences in the stock and the lack of a tool kit with the AKS, the two version were identical. The early AKs had no bayonet, but the version with the fixed wooden stock later mounted a detachable knife bayonet. The improved model, known as the AKM, is easier to produce and operate. It weighs about one kilogram less than the AK. The reduced weight results from using thinner, stamped sheet metal parts rather than machined, forged steel; laminated wood rather than solid wood in the hand guard, forearm, pistol grip, and buttstock; and new lightweight aluminum and plastic magazines. Other improvements include a straighter stock for better control; an improved gas cylinder; a rate-of-fire control alongside the trigger; a rear sight graduated to 1,000 meters rather than 800 meters; and a greatly improved, detachable bayonet. The AKM also has a folding-stock version, designated AKMS, intended for use by riflemen in armored infantry combat vehicles such as the BMP. Except for its T-shaped, stamped-metal, folding buttstock, the AKMS is identical to the AKM. The folding-stock model can reduce its length from 868 to 699 millimeters. Some AK Variants AKS-47 Folding Stock AKM-47 RPK SVD SAR-1 WASR-10 MAK-90 MAADI AKS-74 GP-30 Galil (Israeli) Polish Variants Indian Variants Russian VEPR The safety lever serves two functions when in the upper or "safe" position. First, it blocks dirt from entering the action by covering the slot the bolt carrier lever moves through when the weapon is fired. This also prevents the weapon from being cocked while on "safe". Second, an extension on the pin holding the lever through the receiver blocks the rear of the trigger, preventing the trigger from being pulled. When the safety lever is moved to "fire, the action may be cycled, and the trigger is the only thing holding the hammer from falling. When the trigger is pulled, the hammer falls, hits the rear of the firing pin, and the round detonates. Note that the AK-47 bolt is locked closed by rotating when the bolt carrier is moved forward (there is a cam on the top of the bolt that engages a slot in the bolt carrier to accomplish the rotation). The firing pin is free-floating -- there is no spring to hold it retracted until the hammer falls. Consequently, if one manually cycles live rounds through the AK-47, one will observe light indentations on the primers where the firing pit hit against them as the action closed. Consequently, it is inadvisable to chamber live rounds unless you are prepared for the possibility of the weapon firing when you do so. Slam-fires do not seem to be as common as with the SKS, and it is hard to get enough dirt into the action to cause it to malfunction for that reason. I recall one report of flawless functioning even when the rifle was so covered in mud as to be hardly recognizable as a firearm. The action is gas-operated: when a round detonates, some gas from the explosion is vented out of a small hole at the top of the barrel near the muzzle. This gas pushes against the front of the piston in the gas tube, which is connected to the bolt carrier. As the bolt carrier is pushed rearward by the gas, the bolt rotates to unlock and moves rearward, and the round in the chamber is extracted and pulled back. The round is ejected when it hits against a small protrusion on the left side of the receiver as the bolt moves rearward. Simultaneously, the back of the bolt pushes the hammer back and cocks it. The hammer is held back by the disconnect or (the trigger is almost certainly still pulled, since the action cycles much faster than the operator can release the trigger). The bolt and bolt carrier recoil against the recoil spring and guide rod, and come back forward. As the bolt comes forward, it grabs the top round from the magazine and puts it in the chamber. There is no feature to hold the bolt open after the last round is fired from the magazine. When the operator releases the trigger, the disconnect or moves rearward and releases the hammer to move about 1/8", at which point it is stopped by the (now released) trigger until the operator pulls the trigger a second time. Capabilities: All 7.62-mm Kalashnikov assault rifles fire in either semiautomatic or automatic mode and have an effective range of about 300 meters. At full cyclic rate, they can fire about 600 rounds per minute (up to 640 rounds per minute for the AKM), with a practical rate of about 100 rounds per minute fully automatic or 40 rounds per minute semiautomatic. Both the AK and AKM can mount a grenade launcher. Both can have passive image intensifier night sights. Both can function normally after total immersion in mud and water. The fully chromed barrel ensures effective operation even at very low temperatures. The muzzle of either weapon fits into the swiveling firing points of the BMP. Thus, the infantryman can fire the weapon while the vehicle is moving. Limitations: The most serious drawback to the AK and AKM is the low muzzle velocity (710 meters per second) of the relatively heavy 7.62-mm round. This results in a looping trajectory that requires a clumsy adjustment for accuracy at ranges beyond 300 meters. The barrel overheats quickly when the weapon fires for extended periods, making the weapon hard to handle and occasionally causing a round to explode prematurely in the chamber. The exposed gas cylinder is easily dented, sometimes causing the weapon to malfunction. Remarks: Although they designed it in 1947 and thus referred to it as the AK-47, the Soviets actually adopted the AK in 1949. The AK entered service in 1951. It was the basic individual infantry weapon of the Soviet Army until the introduction of the AKM. The Soviets developed the AKM in 1959. It entered service in 1961. All 7.62-mm Kalashnikov assault rifles are very dependable weapons. They produce a high volume of fire and are simple to maintain. However, the new 5.45-mm assault rife AK-74 is replacing the 7.62-mm weapons. Kalashnikov goal was to design a cheaply manufactured, automatic weapon that fired the new Soviet 7.62x39mm intermediate power round. This round was intended to be a compromise between the pistols rounds fired from submachine gun, which were controllable but lacked power, and the rifle cartridges fired from heavier machine guns, which were either too heavy to fire while on the move or, if lightened, uncontrollable during automatic fire. The conventional wisdom is that the Nazi's originated the concept of an assault rifle with their MP44 machine-pistol design, (which fired the 7.92x33 "8mm Kurz" round) and the Soviets copied them, but this is disputed by Ezell -- both sides may have developed such weapons concurrently. Furthermore, Kalashnikov was hardly the only _Soviet_ designer working toward this end at this time. Other designers looking at the 7.62x39 cartridge included Simonov (designer of the SKS) and Tokarev (designer of the weapons that bear his name). The following data comes from James Infantry Weapons 1995 - 1996. Cartridge: 7.62 x 39 mm Operation: gas, selective fire Locking: rotating bolt Feed: 30-round detachable box magazine Weight: 4.3 kg Length: 869 mm Barrel: 414 mm Rifling: 4 grooves, rh, 1 turn in 235 mm Sights: fore, post, adjustable; rear, U-notch, tangent Muzzle velocity: 710 m/s Rate of fire: cyclic, 600 rds/min Effective range: 300 m "I hate when People Talk Crap then try to cover it up with even more crap.... Eventually the Crap pile gets so high that you can smell the stink over the internet!" Dec 15 05 08:38 am Link Word Count please. Dec 15 05 08:56 am Link BCG wrote: I could have made the post smaller I suppose. Dec 15 05 08:58 am Link Kevin Connery wrote: Actually, song writers are paid their royalties through ASCAP or BMI...it's the recording artists who theoretically lose out from "stealing" music. A songwriter's publishing compnay could very well screw them, but that's another matter. Dec 15 05 09:03 am Link BasementStudios wrote: You can buy software? When did this start? Dec 15 05 09:04 am Link Melvin Moten Jr wrote: Education discount for software has been around a while. Dec 15 05 09:08 am Link Ty Simone wrote: Bill Gates has nothing to do with Photoshop...and it was Apple that first penetrated the education market with both hardware and software going all the way back to the early days of IIC's, then later placing both Lisa and Macintosh machines in the classroom. Dec 15 05 09:17 am Link area291 wrote: Right and Wrong. Dec 15 05 09:23 am Link Ty Simone wrote: Sort of right, sort of wrong! Apple did have education discounting (how I bought and learned on my IIc in 1981), but it was IBM that came in and started the really deep discounting for both machines and hardware. There was actually quite a war going on in the early 90's between Apple and IBM. Microsoft came into the picture later as they only had one component (the OS) and not the hardware. Dec 15 05 09:30 am Link area291 wrote: Hmmm. I am talking software, You are talking hardware.... I think we need middleware........ Dec 15 05 09:34 am Link Ty Simone wrote: i learned all i need to know about weapons from watching platton and full metal jacket...ps...that me with the m2 in my portfolio. Dec 15 05 10:27 am Link In other part in Europe there is a dangerous consensus about a future law to forbid free software that's amazing! but it din't go far i think. Dec 15 05 10:39 am Link FreshWidows wrote: WTF???...who came up with that brilliant idea...hitlers cousin??? Dec 15 05 10:42 am Link BCG wrote: Platoon? I assume that is what you were trying to say..... Dec 15 05 10:49 am Link Ty Simone wrote: oh you silly little psuedo jedi...i think in binary code and think at the speed of darkness...your games amuse me. Dec 15 05 11:18 am Link There are 10 kinds of people in this world: Those that understand binary, and those that don't! Dec 15 05 11:25 am Link |