Posted by PhotographerC: 

Posted by Doug Swinskey: 

another thought is most commercial shoots dont allow for non-essential personel..they will not allow you to bring body guards..

just a thought...

Just NOT true. Most commercial shoots have a place for extras to be. There are so many people at a real commercial shoot (assistants, MUAs, stylists, etc.) nobody would probably even notice a bodyguard.

No model should EVER go to a shoot alone. Any photographer that wants them to, is probably not concerned with the image. Dreaded chaperones are like rain - you have to learn to deal with them and get the shot anyway or just don't shoot with them model.

I do commercial work for a living and have been on more commercial shoots over the years ( over 20 )then I can count.  A body gaurd isn't necessary, there are a lot of people on a commercial shoot and usually very little room.

Most of the jobs I work Hire professional agency models and they know better then to bring anyone to the shoot but there have been times when a few non-pros have brought someone to the shoot.  I have never seen anyone ask someone to leave but they must stay in the waiting room away from the shoot or outside if there is no place for them. These shoots are too nuts for extra people....for example, I just finished a week long Dupont shoot, we had

stylist
stylist assistant
makeup and hair
4 creatives from London
1 creative from Germany
2 creatives from the midwest
photographer
3 photo assistants
producer
3 chefs (same company)
2 runners
3 to 4 models per set up
Teacher on the set (when there were kids)


We were stumbling all over each other.  I can upload photos of the chaos if anyone doesnt believe me.

Any extra person would have been asked to wait outside (for 4 hours as was the normal shoot time per set)  and the agent would have been notified if the model brought someone.

On a commercial shoot it isnt necessary to bring anyone with you.  It's not a good idea.   

If you are on a budget shoot with just you and the photographer, that may be a differnt story, I have never been on such a shoot, as the artist if I am there it's not that kind of shoot.  

Posted by Mary: 

Posted by PhotographerC: 

Posted by Doug Swinskey: 

another thought is most commercial shoots dont allow for non-essential personel..they will not allow you to bring body guards..

just a thought...

Just NOT true. Most commercial shoots have a place for extras to be. There are so many people at a real commercial shoot (assistants, MUAs, stylists, etc.) nobody would probably even notice a bodyguard.

No model should EVER go to a shoot alone. Any photographer that wants them to, is probably not concerned with the image. Dreaded chaperones are like rain - you have to learn to deal with them and get the shot anyway or just don't shoot with them model.

I do commercial work for a living and have been on more commercial shoots over the years ( over 20 )then I can count.  A body gaurd isn't necessary, there are a lot of people on a commercial shoot and usually very little room.

Most of the jobs I work Hire professional agency models and they know better then to bring anyone to the shoot but there have been times when a few non-pros have brought someone to the shoot.  I have never seen anyone ask someone to leave but they must stay in the waiting room away from the shoot or outside if there is no place for them. These shoots are too nuts for extra people....for example, I just finished a week long Dupont shoot, we had

stylist
stylist assistant
makeup and hair
4 creatives from London
1 creative from Germany
2 creatives from the midwest
photographer
3 photo assistants
producer
3 chefs (same company)
2 runners
3 to 4 models per set up
Teacher on the set (when there were kids)


We were stumbling all over each other.  I can upload photos of the chaos if anyone doesnt believe me.

Any extra person would have been asked to wait outside (for 4 hours as was the normal shoot time per set)  and the agent would have been notified if the model brought someone.

On a commercial shoot it isnt necessary to bring anyone with you.  It's not a good idea.   

If you are on a budget shoot with just you and the photographer, that may be a differnt story, I have never been on such a shoot, as the artist if I am there it's not that kind of shoot.    

Posted by XtremeArtists ®: 

Just a little research shows that slander is spoken and libel is written. It's very basic.

yep, that's why i said what i said.

Posted by XtremeArtists ®: 
I annoy people all the time. I never knew it was against the law...

lol.. damn, what a rap sheet i should have...