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Sarah Slaykitty wrote: Actually, it's only 2 years. Jan 23 10 08:38 am Link Daniela Victoria wrote: What if you need them more than they need you? Or you need modeling? Jan 23 10 05:40 pm Link Sarah Slaykitty wrote: Daniela should be commended for starting it, and I plan on referencing it every time the subject is brought up. Jan 23 10 09:32 pm Link AndrewV wrote: Then it's probably time to re-evaluate your life & decisions that've placed those who'd belittle & control you for their own selfish reasons in positions of power over you. Jan 23 10 10:31 pm Link AndrewV wrote: Then it's time to stop being so "needy". Jan 23 10 10:33 pm Link Image K wrote: Seriously. Jan 24 10 06:03 pm Link Does anyone ever think that that person may not be a self-centered asshole that wants to dissapoint you, but someone who wants to keep you safe because they love you... ::shrugs:: Mar 23 10 07:25 am Link Lori Anne Mayor wrote: Safety isn't the issue here. It's the controlling boyfriends. They could be supportive, but they're not. Mar 23 10 07:30 am Link Daniela, how dare you insist on being respected, lol. I think this thread may well be commented on for 2-3 more years. I've never understood why we allow an insecure person to criticize a well adjusted person and allow the insecure person to act like the victim. Daniela, I have a feeling that you're in a relationship that has communication, respect and a great chance of lasting a long time. Most partners of the insecure people probably won't even remember their names five years from now. Mar 23 10 07:36 am Link Its ashame how another likes to control sum1 when they have balls to say i love u " girls were not put in this world to be belittle or told what to do or controlled ! And everyone is themselves ~ If they met a richass biatch that had it all trust me they wouldnt turn it down or tell her what the hell to do its all in the way u look at it !!! Ladys arent supported through life ~ in this industry lol Mar 23 10 07:36 am Link It just doesn't work that way in a relationship, unless you want to exacerbate a conflict. There could be a time in your life when your partner does something you genuinely disapprove of, and for good reason. Maybe he tortures kittens. If you told him you didn't approve and he said "well you are disappointing me" then you would just think "this guy doesn't listen to my feelings, he's just a jerk." It wouldn't do anything to decide if he should continue torturing kittens, or to get either one of you okay with the other's mentality. Maybe that's an extreme and distracting example, but in someone people's minds nude modeling might be on the same level as stripping or associated only with posing in playboy. I don't think it's off for men to not want other men to see their girlfriend's naked. That doesn't mean it's right. A lot of times all someone needs to be okay with your decision is a little bit of reassurance that things aren't going to change between you or that nude modeling is really different from whatever they imagine it to be like. No if you try that whole conversation and (maybe) compromise thing, and they still won't listen then you might want to throw around the "you disappoint me" thing. Mar 23 10 07:39 am Link Lori Anne Mayor wrote: no, of course not Mar 23 10 08:22 am Link Trevor Snyder wrote: I'd rather be happy and stand up for myself and what I believe in than be in the majority. Example: Ron Paul. Mar 23 10 01:11 pm Link Bump because it seems like there a lot of people who could make good use of reading this lately Mar 30 10 01:17 pm Link YESSS! Well said!! I don't shoot nude. It scares my models. But I do shoot nudes! Mar 30 10 01:20 pm Link This thread has legs. And rightly so. The OP showed remarkable candour and courage and I am sure this has been an inspiration to many. The MM community at it's best. Mar 30 10 01:26 pm Link Lori Anne Mayor wrote: Safe??? What does that have to do with anything? Mar 31 10 10:03 am Link Wolfy4u wrote: Yes sir. Mar 31 10 10:04 am Link Miss_May_ wrote: Works in mine. I'm not alone in this either. Mar 31 10 10:05 am Link Daniela Victoria wrote: At least they aren't hypocrites that subscribe to Playboy while berating you for shooting nudes. Aug 29 10 09:56 am Link Tiffany x wrote: Were they looking for pictures of you and found nudes or were they looking for nudes and happened across you? Aug 29 10 10:04 am Link It's baaaaack! Aug 29 10 10:16 pm Link Daniela Victoria wrote: You wrote the best thread ever. Aug 29 10 10:59 pm Link Snake Biscuits wrote: Great threads are worth bringing back! Aug 30 10 01:48 am Link Snake Biscuits wrote: Thank you Aug 30 10 09:05 am Link JEBKA Photography wrote: I did a implied shoot in the show!! We would run back to the car every like 5 minutes to warm up though hehe Sep 01 10 11:29 am Link New Dawn Photography wrote: I am not going through the 5 million pages as I totally agree with the OP. Sep 01 10 02:43 pm Link Bump Sep 30 10 08:45 am Link Daniela Victoria wrote: +10. Pretty much yeah Sep 30 10 09:02 am Link I want to start by saying I agree... because for me... love is acceptance... acceptance of who someone is... and more importanly who someone isnt. With that said. Part of what you may be feeling is your intentions being thwarted... That comes from a perception that you are being made wrong or possibly being dominated. When someone is being made wrong or being dominated, love, affinity, relatedness are all effected. The payoff is they get to feel right, in a place of dominance, etc... but the cost is you... Remember that is a two way street. Making them wrong or saying you know is basically doing it right back... and then there is the payoff for you and the cost to you both. So what am I saying? I'm saying, invent a new possibility before cutting them off... Speak your truth... What is important to you? Your career is important to you. Having them understand or even accept it isnt. Creating a space of relationship, love, affinity, community in the face of their beliefs and yours is important to you! It can be easy, but it requires new vocabulary. It requires not saying the same old stuff... like it is "my way or forget it"... (on both of your parts) It requires being responsible and looking for places where you might be at the cause of the upset... not FAULT!!! but cause. Fault is a matter of morality... Cause in the matter is devoid of morality... it is about getting real with what's so. maybe you have outgrown them... if so... make it about that... not about their juvenile or philistine ideas and thoughts. Sep 30 10 09:05 am Link Kaida Minako wrote: I've certainly had my share of frustrations with models and their "controlling boyfriends." But disapproval can also come from very well meaning parents. Sep 30 10 09:17 am Link At times like this I like to quote Robin Williams: You can fool some of the people some of the time, And jerk the rest off... If there were more naked chicks in the world, there would be less wars: eg the Middle East... Oct 01 10 05:22 am Link lets celebrate. everyone get naked. Oct 01 10 05:25 am Link Miss_May_ wrote: I really don't think that nude modelling is comparable to torturing kittens, although I understand that pussies are the common element. Oct 01 10 05:39 am Link Bump. Because I think this all models should read this, nude or not. Oct 01 10 08:31 am Link I agree with the fact that if a person decides to get involved with another they need to accept them for who they are. That being said, in some relationships, a person does need to decide which is more important if they are reaching a point of getting serious. Everyone has the right to have their feelings respected. So... For models - If the person is important enough to keep around, some tough choice may be needed. For others - Respect the ambitions and goals of the person you are with and if they do not fit into your perfect picture...move on. The both of you will be happier. But most important, get to know the views of the person you're getting involved with before you get serious so that you can decide if that is the person you are willing to go the distance with. Nov 07 10 09:57 am Link To Daniela -- Not every model is in your situation. Gabby Nov 07 10 01:35 pm Link Lori Anne Mayor wrote: I don't think so- and here's why: Nov 07 10 01:56 pm Link Bravo!!! Nov 07 10 04:30 pm Link JEBKA Photography wrote: I'm a new model and I have never look at it from that point of view, it gives me something to THINK about!! Nov 07 10 04:34 pm Link |