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Art Silva
Posts: 10064
Santa Barbara, California, US
Woohoo OMG... Top of page 25, geeeezus! Daniela Victoria wrote: Nude modeling. Glamour modeling. Art modeling. Showing any skin whatsoever.... Countless threads on "my family/boyfriend/husband/girlfriend doesn't approve and it hurts...what do I do?" Has anyone ever thought to say to that person or those people that it's THEM disappointing YOU and not the other way around? Why is it that people in our lives feel that it's simply perfect for them to tell us how we should conduct our modeling (i.e. nudes and not doing nudes) and it's not OK for us to be upset with them? Why do THEY get to be upset with US but we don't get to be upset and disappointed at how close minded they are? Folks- if there is a person in your life, or people that say they can't handle your modeling (Esp. for you nude models out there) then express to them that you are hurt by that and move on. )Put it on them. Don't sit there and say "how do I handle this because my so-and-so doesn't approve", but instead say to that so-and-so that YOU don't approve of THEIR negativity toward modeling nude or just modeling in general. I'm disappointed in those that are close to models and don't support them. I think it's bullshit. I think it's the models that should be upset and not their family or friends or significant others. I'm just tired of these threads. You don't approve of my modeling? I don't approve of you. It's YOU disappointing ME. Try that next time someone gives you crap. That doesn't work? Walk away. /rant. I F'ing LOVE this!!! Girls, take this as the gospel
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Missy Kat
Posts: 14
Justin, Texas, US
I just had this situation happen to me last night, and I have been trying to figure out if I am in the wrong. But I know I am not, this is what I love to do. None of my family has said anything to me about the nude pictures I have taken, and I know if they do I will just look at them and say. "I love what I do, its me. And if you don't like it then don't look." But what is getting to me the most is when my sisters friend is posting about it on facebook in 'code' and trash talking me. My question to him is, why is he looking anyways if you think so low of it?
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Darren Brade
Posts: 3351
London, England, United Kingdom
Missy Kat wrote: I just had this situation happen to me last night, and I have been trying to figure out if I am in the wrong. But I know I am not, this is what I love to do. None of my family has said anything to me about the nude pictures I have taken, and I know if they do I will just look at them and say. "I love what I do, its me. And if you don't like it then don't look." But what is getting to me the most is when my sisters friend is posting about it on facebook in 'code' and trash talking me. My question to him is, why is he looking anyways if you think so low of it? If you find the post on facebook where they are trashing you, click the cross in the top right next to it and REPORT it to FB. They can decide if it's harrassment and I'm sure they will notify them that their actions have been reported. Unfortunatly I don't know FB too well, but think that is how it works, maybe someone else here could confirm? P.S. Here's a new expression you should practise on your sister's friend - "Jog On!" Take care and be strong. Darren x
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Hwy 20
Posts: 121
Tallahassee, Florida, US
That is really messed up, have you told your sister to tell him to bugger off? You can move your pics some place else or report him for it.
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Missy Kat
Posts: 14
Justin, Texas, US
Frances Sparkman wrote: That is really messed up, have you told your sister to tell him to bugger off? You can move your pics some place else or report him for it. I have told her and she thinks I am mad at him, and some what I am, but I also feel disrespected for what he did at Halloween. I have blocked him completely on FB but I know that wont do a thing since everyone now knows and keeps looking at me like I am trash.
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Dances with Wolves
Posts: 25108
SHAWNEE ON DELAWARE, Pennsylvania, US
Glad this thread is still inspiring some people and giving confidence to many Personally, I'm looking forward to taking some beautiful nudes of my 37 week pregnant self this weekend.
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Luna Diosa
Posts: 13242
Elizabeth, New Jersey, US
swhnyc wrote: I'm buying you a sash and a crown. I wish more people had this kind of self-assuredness. Too many members on here (and everywhere, really) allow their family, friends, significant others, etc. to become crutches due to their insecurities, and need everyone's approval. Hell with that. + 1 OP I applaud your rant its about time someone spoke about this! Bravo!
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Barrett Graphics
Posts: 882
Overland Park, Kansas, US
I just dropped by to say "Holy shit, this topic is still going?!" Ok, now carry on.
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Greg Kolack
Posts: 18392
Elmhurst, Illinois, US
Daniela Victoria wrote: Glad this thread is still inspiring some people and giving confidence to many Personally, I'm looking forward to taking some beautiful nudes of my 37 week pregnant self this weekend. I was just thinking about you and wondering how far you along you are!
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Nedah Oyin
Posts: 11826
Chicago, Illinois, US
Missy Kat wrote: I have told her and she thinks I am mad at him, and some what I am, but I also feel disrespected for what he did at Halloween. I have blocked him completely on FB but I know that wont do a thing since everyone now knows and keeps looking at me like I am trash. I honestly have to say that if it bothers you so much, stop doing nudes.. If you let them make you feel like trash this isn't the career for you..
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Jennifer R K
Posts: 729
Toronto, Ontario, Canada
I like your perspective. Thanks for posting.
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Patrick Walberg
Posts: 45198
San Juan Bautista, California, US
Barrett Graphics wrote: I just dropped by to say "Holy shit, this topic is still going?!" Ok, now carry on. Are you joking? This is one of the best threads on the entire forum! It really has nothing to do with me, because I'm a photographer like you, but for models, shall we say "it's a good read!" So "drop in" anytime!
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Barry Brown Images
Posts: 186
Crossville, Tennessee, US
Beautifully and powerfully said! Applause!
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Dances with Wolves
Posts: 25108
SHAWNEE ON DELAWARE, Pennsylvania, US
Nedah Oyin wrote: If you let them make you feel like trash this isn't the career for you.. My mom called the first implieds I ever shot "white trash"...they are still some of the most beautiful pictures I've ever taken..and those pictures were the first time I ever felt beautiful. It was her complex, it still is...and I'm just thankful that I found something that makes me feel beautiful. I wish that for everyone...especially those that always hated what looked back at them in the mirror. xo
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C Mirene
Posts: 1610
Las Vegas, Nevada, US
Daniela Victoria wrote: I'm just thankful that I found something that makes me feel beautiful. I wish that for everyone...especially those that always hated what looked back at them in the mirror. xo I think that is awesome for you. And I wish that for everyone else, just like you. Thanks for starting this thread. It's great.
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Julian W I L D E
Posts: 1831
Portland, Oregon, US
The Goddess Speaks. The Crowd Goes Wild!!
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Amber Rae
Posts: 51
Houston, Texas, US
My tried and true tactic is to not care at all what anyone thinks, and just say something along the lines of "cool story bro" when they try to hate on whatever I'm doing. Not giving a !@#$. It works wonders.
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Ferrin N
Posts: 23
Seattle, Washington, US
spence wrote: Everybody has their lines. I'm totally fine with my girlfriend modeling and I encourage it, she's good at it and it makes her happy. I wouldn't want her doing nudes because, to me, revealing your naked body to another is an act of intimacy. Other people would disagree because to them, it isn't. I'm sure a lot of people will say I'm just insecure, but some of those same people probably wouldn't be alright with their significant others going off to work and getting gang-banged in front of a video camera. The spouse of the porn star could then call them insecure because to him, she's just doing her job and it has nothing to do with intimacy. Everybody has a different range of what they're ok with. Everyone who says, "If your boyfriend isn't okay with what you want to do, you should break up with him" is right. If it's really important to my girlfriend to take her clothes off for the camera, she should break up with me and pursue her dreams. People who have found something they love in life are fortunate, to know what you love and not go after it is just a shame. At the same time, don't expect everyone else in the world to have your same boundaries. You have yours, they have theirs, and if they're in opposition and very strong, maybe you're just not compatible. I absolutely and completely agree with this. In my relationship my partner and I enjoy that we are the only ones who see each other nude. It is like a... gift of sorts that is very much enjoyed. Romantic, I suppose. I respect the opinions and feelings of those who wish to model nude, and only ask they respect the opinions and feelings of those of us who do not, and those of our partners and family members.
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C Mirene
Posts: 1610
Las Vegas, Nevada, US
Ferrin N wrote: I respect the opinions and feelings of those who wish to model nude, and only ask they respect the opinions and feelings of those of us who do not, and those of our partners and family members. Hi Ferrin, What it all comes down to - as you stated - is respect. Respect for others as individuals, respecting others decisions, and on and on. It is a very difficult thing for some people to do.......respect others...about basically any subject these days. People are many times just thinking of themselves, and always thinking they have it all figured out - without any thought or consideration to the opposite viewpoint. Anyway, just rambling... It's all about respect. Best wishes to you and your SO.
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Matt Schmidt Photo
Posts: 3709
Charlotte, North Carolina, US
"No, it's YOU disappointing ME" Dad? What are you doing here?
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C Mirene
Posts: 1610
Las Vegas, Nevada, US
Fotographahaulic wrote: "No, it's YOU disappointing ME" Dad? What are you doing here? haha - good one!
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Matty272
Posts: 229
Dunfermline, Scotland, United Kingdom
Ferrin N wrote: I respect the opinions and feelings of those who wish to model nude, and only ask they respect the opinions and feelings of those of us who do not, and those of our partners and family members. I respect the fact that you have this opinion, however, and unless I've misread it.......... If I've misread your post and misunderstood your meaning, please forgive me, but this read to me as though you're telling models that they have to respect the views of family members which carries the implication that they then shouldn't model in the manner they have chosen. The models body is their own, it's their choice to do what they do. Their family members have an opinion, that's fine, but the model doesn't have to respect that view or follow the view.
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Jeff Fiore
Posts: 9225
Brooklyn, New York, US
Matty272 wrote: I respect the fact that you have this opinion, however, and unless I've misread it.......... If I've misread your post and misunderstood your meaning, please forgive me, but this read to me as though you're telling models that they have to respect the views of family members which carries the implication that they then shouldn't model in the manner they have chosen. The models body is their own, it's their choice to do what they do. Their family members have an opinion, that's fine, but the model doesn't have to respect that view or follow the view. I think you misunderstood. There is a difference between respecting an opinion and agreeing with their view. For example, my ex in-laws don't like what I do. They are very conservative and religious people (when they are watching a movie and there is a nude scene, they avert their eyes, that's how conservative they are). Whether I agree or not, I do respect their opinions, I just don't agree and I'm not going to stop shooting nudes because of their views.
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Michael DBA Expressions
Posts: 3730
Lynchburg, Virginia, US
Yes, this thread is still going. As such it is a tribute both to the original post that started it and to the opinions (both good and bad) of folks who've read it since then. My congratulations to Daniela Victoria for her wisdom in writing the original post, and best wishes for her and her baby, which should be delivered right about now. To everyone else, read the entire thread, you might learn something. For those who have, my take-away on the topic is that there are some for whom nude modeling is a good fit, some for whom it isn't for various reasons. If you love what you do, it is your choice what to make of critics. I recommend the OP's approach either way.
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Dances with Wolves
Posts: 25108
SHAWNEE ON DELAWARE, Pennsylvania, US
Michael DBA Expressions wrote: Yes, this thread is still going. As such it is a tribute both to the original post that started it and to the opinions (both good and bad) of folks who've read it since then. My congratulations to Daniela Victoria for her wisdom in writing the original post, and best wishes for her and her baby, which should be delivered right about now. Thank you :-) Still waiting on the baby's arrival...sometime this week hopefully.
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Matty272
Posts: 229
Dunfermline, Scotland, United Kingdom
Jeff Fiore wrote: I think you misunderstood. There is a difference between respecting an opinion and agreeing with their view. If that's the case, Ferrin has a freely given and sincere apology from me.
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Matty272
Posts: 229
Dunfermline, Scotland, United Kingdom
Daniela Victoria wrote: Still waiting on the baby's arrival...sometime this week hopefully. All the very best for the new arrival and thankyou for starting a thread (which I read from the start one of the times it popped up) which has caused lots of good discussion
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The Original Sin
Posts: 13899
Louisville, Kentucky, US
Daniela Victoria wrote: Thank you :-) Still waiting on the baby's arrival...sometime this week hopefully. Me too. Babies take forever to bake, dammit.
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Michael DBA Expressions
Posts: 3730
Lynchburg, Virginia, US
The Original Sin wrote: Me too. Babies take forever to bake, dammit. Babies seem to approach "fully baked" asymptotically. Ask any mother-to-be. The last day before actually lasts about a year.
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Eralar
Posts: 1781
Sherbrooke, Quebec, Canada
Missy Kat wrote: I have told her and she thinks I am mad at him, and some what I am, but I also feel disrespected for what he did at Halloween. I have blocked him completely on FB but I know that wont do a thing since everyone now knows and keeps looking at me like I am trash. Unfortunately, he IS looking, and most probably enjoying it... yet at the same time talks very badly about you. Reminds me of all those hypocrite suckers who would sleep with any good looking girl for a few bucks if given the occation, and would trash the same girls in public the next morning for what she does (not that I put nude modeling and prostitution in the same basket, just wanted to make my point across). It's just too bad your sister can't see what is happening, or believe that family should come first... I hope it will settle down.
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zombiesque
Posts: 39
White House, Tennessee, US
My boyfriend is really supportive of me. I shoot nudes, but if its a nide shoot, I tell him beforehand, so its not like "SURPRISE!I GOT NEKKID!!!" Type of thing. We both agreed ill never fo spread shots. To me, they are just unartistic, and crude. Mostly just jackoff material and not art. But he is fine with the nudity. I always go over where ill be and what the shoots are before I go, so he will have an idea of what kind of pics he will get to see. Hell, he even said that if it paid a lot he wouldn't mind if I was a webcam girl, since its just me talking to a computer really, and getting paid for it :-P
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AtomicPenguin
Posts: 449
Dix Hills, New York, US
My shooting is restricted...not sure what to think of it...blah.
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Eleanor Rose
Posts: 2612
PASO ROBLES, California, US
Bumping an awesome thread for the new year. This should really be stickied.
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Harry Young
Posts: 744
Los Angeles, California, US
Eleanor R wrote: Bumping an awesome thread for the new year. This should really be stickied. ========= totally agree! Have thought so from about page #3 when I first read it... this thread (and the lady who started it) deserve kudos & "2 thumbs up".
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notpickinganame
Posts: 2
Akwesasne, Ontario, Canada
I am beyond happy I found this thread.
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Kelly Kooper
Posts: 1240
Melbourne, Victoria, Australia
Daniela Victoria wrote: Nude modeling. Glamour modeling. Art modeling. Showing any skin whatsoever.... Countless threads on "my family/boyfriend/husband/girlfriend doesn't approve and it hurts...what do I do?" Has anyone ever thought to say to that person or those people that it's THEM disappointing YOU and not the other way around? Why is it that people in our lives feel that it's simply perfect for them to tell us how we should conduct our modeling (i.e. nudes and not doing nudes) and it's not OK for us to be upset with them? Why do THEY get to be upset with US but we don't get to be upset and disappointed at how close minded they are? Folks- if there is a person in your life, or people that say they can't handle your modeling (Esp. for you nude models out there) then express to them that you are hurt by that and move on. )Put it on them. Don't sit there and say "how do I handle this because my so-and-so doesn't approve", but instead say to that so-and-so that YOU don't approve of THEIR negativity toward modeling nude or just modeling in general. I'm disappointed in those that are close to models and don't support them. I think it's bullshit. I think it's the models that should be upset and not their family or friends or significant others. I'm just tired of these threads. You don't approve of my modeling? I don't approve of you. It's YOU disappointing ME. Try that next time someone gives you crap. That doesn't work? Walk away. /rant. Daniela, I adore you! I wholeheartedly support this thread. GREAT post.
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IDiivil
Posts: 4615
Los Angeles, California, US
Glad this thread got bumped. Perfect timing. Really needed the mental boost right now.
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eybdoog
Posts: 2647
New York, New York, US
Just seeing this thread for the first time myself and bookmarking it for all of the other ones that pop up like you mentioned. Kudos on setting the bar and congrats on your pregnancy (belated by now most likely..haha).
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hygvhgvkhy
Posts: 2092
Chicago, Illinois, US
Daniela Victoria wrote: Nude modeling. Glamour modeling. Art modeling. Showing any skin whatsoever.... Countless threads on "my family/boyfriend/husband/girlfriend doesn't approve and it hurts...what do I do?" Has anyone ever thought to say to that person or those people that it's THEM disappointing YOU and not the other way around? Why is it that people in our lives feel that it's simply perfect for them to tell us how we should conduct our modeling (i.e. nudes and not doing nudes) and it's not OK for us to be upset with them? Why do THEY get to be upset with US but we don't get to be upset and disappointed at how close minded they are? Folks- if there is a person in your life, or people that say they can't handle your modeling (Esp. for you nude models out there) then express to them that you are hurt by that and move on. )Put it on them. Don't sit there and say "how do I handle this because my so-and-so doesn't approve", but instead say to that so-and-so that YOU don't approve of THEIR negativity toward modeling nude or just modeling in general. I'm disappointed in those that are close to models and don't support them. I think it's bullshit. I think it's the models that should be upset and not their family or friends or significant others. I'm just tired of these threads. You don't approve of my modeling? I don't approve of you. It's YOU disappointing ME. Try that next time someone gives you crap. That doesn't work? Walk away. /rant. Have tried it, doesnt work for me. but nothing does on my mother. Shes right and anyone who says otherwise is obviously just retarded.
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