Narvell wrote:
Tonight I'm going through some old photos looking for a particular photo and I ran across this girls who I styled for free because she asked.  I remember the shoot.  The so-called wanna-be-model came to the shoot with an attitude as if we were her "help".  I showed her the cocktail dress I picked out for her and she quickly took off her clothes to try it on.  I could not believe it... she came to the shoot with about 1" long and thick hair on her legs.  When I said WTF and why?  Her reply was, "If you don't like it, work around it because it's gorgeous." 

I then turn to the makeup artist and said, "Oh No She Didn't!"  All I could do is fall out laughing in the girl's face. After I stopped, I told her we are going to focus on head shots as soon as I can get the make up artist to wax her uni-bra. 

Have you ever had an "Oh No She Didn't..." experience.  If so, please share.  We all need a good laugh or reality check.

BridgitC-Makeup Artist wrote:
I had a " Oh no she didn't" once with this video chick/actress who wants and claims to be a model.. Now I guess she might have arrived because I just saw a glimpse of her in a commercial  but not enough to be a star.... : ) Anyway I did her makeup for this shoot mind you a test tfp for her and to my defense the makeup was slamming and she looked good, she decides to go the bathroom and make it heavier and messes it up for the lighting that the photographer had set for the concept.... I was soooo mad because she just F&(%@d it up totally and then wanted me to fix it....NOT!!!!!!

I had an incident sort of like that with my first photoshoot. It was vice-versa, though. I wanted to do my own makeup, because I actually know how and can do a fairly good job of it I would hope (see all my portfolio shots...makeup all done by me so far). Anyhow, the photographer INSISTED upon doing my makeup for the shoot, and he seemed to be offended when I wanted to lighten the eyebrows, as he clearly put too much makeup on them. He used eyeliner and it was a heavy brown one...I'm a red-head. You can tell what is wrong with it right there. To this day, I won't show those photos from that shoot! I looked like I let a 5-year-old do my makeup. However, it was for a tfp shoot, and I didn't pay for the images...I chop it up to you get what you pay for.

BeccaNDSouth wrote:

I had an incident sort of like that with my first photoshoot. It was vice-versa, though. I wanted to do my own makeup, because I actually know how and can do a fairly good job of it I would hope (see all my portfolio shots...makeup all done by me so far). Anyhow, the photographer INSISTED upon doing my makeup for the shoot, and he seemed to be offended when I wanted to lighten the eyebrows, as he clearly put too much makeup on them. He used eyeliner and it was a heavy brown one...I'm a red-head. You can tell what is wrong with it right there. To this day, I won't show those photos from that shoot! I looked like I let a 5-year-old do my makeup. However, it was for a tfp shoot, and I didn't pay for the images...I chop it up to you get what you pay for.

Girl you had an all-in-one shoot LOL.....I feel ya about the brow thing....

BridgitC-Makeup Artist wrote:

Girl you had an all-in-one shoot LOL.....I feel ya about the brow thing....

Oh yes, and it was the first and last time...lol. That was 6 years ago. I'm just now starting to use makeup artists and all for my shoots. I have one later this month with Kat Flynt. I can't wait, but I'm also a bit anxious. I see that she does great work, though.

Sonntag wrote:
It sure was unprofessional of the OP's model to come in, disrespect the expectations of the shoot, and then try to change them...

...however, I totally think more hairy work needs to be done, in general. It's natural; there's no actual reason women, or men, need to shave. If we think hairy legs are gross - and only on a female, at that - then it's probably a learned perception from living in a society that promotes that view.

I promote asking yourself why you think it's gross... is it? Or is it just made out to be because some time ago, razor companies needed to invent a new excuse for sales?

Phooey on the model for forcing her views on you at a critical time like that... but giant-knuckled props to her otherwise, for realizing what's what with the human body! :-D

I also love the look of many uni-brows - fierce! And this after so much teasing on the way to *and* from junior high... the more diverse people's looks, the better, I'd say.

Sonntag
~the more hair, the more rewarding the shave!

Okay... but NO.  I can grow some hair my dang self but, I'm not trying to rock a micro mini skirt with hair so thick you would think I had a tan.

Glamourpuss Make-UpHair wrote:
When I first started, I did a ton of those "shoot-till-you-puke" shoots for local agencies.  That's when they bring in all the new people and want them to have all the shots they need for a comp card from this one shoot.

This one, young girl came with her Mom and her sister.  She had her hair in a ponytail.  It looked wet, like it was in the process of air-drying.

I take out the ponytail holder and start to brush and comb through the mess.  The first red flag was that her hair was not wet, it was just so oily and stinky that it looked wet.  The second red flag was the worst case of dandruff I've ever seen in my whole life.  What was this girl and her Mom thinking!!!

I stopped what I was doing and told the photog I would not work on her like that.  There was no way I could make that hair do anything different from what it was doing.  Then we collectively explained to them what is expected when a model arrives to a shoot.

Still grosses me out to think about it.

That is freakin gross!

Yes... I have had this happened.  Similar situation however, the makeup artist at the shoot did light hairstyling.  She was doing the hair and then came over to me and asked me if I knew how to do black hair (since I am black).  I said... ahhh... yes?  I go over to the model and OH LORD!  This fool had nappy African roots with a European weave.  Plus, it was dirty and flaky.  She was a minor (17 yrs old) so I walked over to her mom and said, "When she turns 18, call me so I can cus her out as an adult."  The mother asked why.  I looked at the mother's head and said, "never mind".  "It's not even worth explaining since you two have the same hairstyle."   The dad/husband was so embarrassed he walked out and waited in the truck.  He knew they looked a mess!

BridgitC-Makeup Artist wrote:
EWWWWW....maybe she thought she was shooting for a Bic Shaver ad..... LOL

I'm thinking lawnboy lawnmowers!
               
     

Zion Imaging wrote:

I'm thinking lawnboy lawnmowers!
               
     

Wow... such a flash back I am having of that girls legs.  LOL  (You are wrong on so many levels.)

Narvell wrote:
Okay... but NO.  I can grow some hair my dang self but, I'm not trying to rock a micro mini skirt with hair so thick you would think I had a tan.

Narvell, you owe me lunch now.  I just threw up.

lll wrote:

Narvell, you owe me lunch now.  I just threw up.

You like that big daddy!?!  (ROFLMAF!!!)  You like that thick furry tan!?!
(ROFLMAF!!!)
(ROFLMAF!!!)
(ROFLMAF!!!)

Okay Taco Bell is on me.

Narvell wrote:
Okay... but NO.  I can grow some hair my dang self but, I'm not trying to rock a micro mini skirt with hair so thick you would think I had a tan.

Fair enough; certainly - we all have our own preferences :-)

But I think that *I* might want to try this... and I'd sure love to see someone in public with the guts for this, for once. I even have interest from a photographer or two to shoot this sort of thing... it's cool that no matter what it is, there are enough people in this damn world - on this forum, even - to find a co-conspirator for just about anything.

Sonntag
~if you don't like it, don't look

BeccaNDSouth wrote:

Oh yes, and it was the first and last time...lol. That was 6 years ago. I'm just now starting to use makeup artists and all for my shoots. I have one later this month with Kat Flynt. I can't wait, but I'm also a bit anxious. I see that she does great work, though.

Good Luck, I have never met her but we have both worked with some of the same people....

Narvell wrote:
Okay Taco Bell is on me.

Oh god no! Not taco bell!

Sonntag wrote:
It sure was unprofessional of the OP's model to come in, disrespect the expectations of the shoot, and then try to change them...

...however, I totally think more hairy work needs to be done, in general. It's natural; there's no actual reason women, or men, need to shave. If we think hairy legs are gross - and only on a female, at that - then it's probably a learned perception from living in a society that promotes that view.

I promote asking yourself why you think it's gross... is it? Or is it just made out to be because some time ago, razor companies needed to invent a new excuse for sales?

Phooey on the model for forcing her views on you at a critical time like that... but giant-knuckled props to her otherwise, for realizing what's what with the human body! :-D

I also love the look of many uni-brows - fierce! And this after so much teasing on the way to *and* from junior high... the more diverse people's looks, the better, I'd say.

Sonntag
~the more hair, the more rewarding the shave!

I have a theory about the shaving thing on females. Bear with me here. Men are hairy, right? Ok well one of the things that attracts people to the opposite sex, if that's your bag, is their oppositeness from you. Men generally are hairier by nature, so to re-inforce this contrast, we shave. Plus the smoothness helps helps light to bounce off the skin, thus accentuating the graceful curves of the feminine leg.

Oh My Gosh, I sound like an Ani DiFranco fan.

Sonntag wrote:
...however, I totally think more hairy work needs to be done, in general. It's natural; there's no actual reason women, or men, need to shave. If we think hairy legs are gross - and only on a female, at that - then it's probably a learned perception from living in a society that promotes that view.

I agree with this in terms of 'art shoots'...there are many photographers that like it...but for fashion and glamour, the model is a template for the clothing, etc. and it is time to conform to the 'rules' of fashion. If she wants to be a fashion model, she has to shave.

Narvell wrote:
You like that big daddy!?!  (ROFLMAF!!!)  You like that thick furry tan!?!
(ROFLMAF!!!)
(ROFLMAF!!!)
(ROFLMAF!!!)

Ewwwwwwwwww. Thick furry tan. Ewwwwwww...... Now how the hell am I gonna get THAT outta my head?

*runs to grab the body wax as an offering if needed!* lmao

Narvell wrote:
Tonight I'm going through some old photos looking for a particular photo and I ran across this girls who I styled for free because she asked.  I remember the shoot.  The so-called wanna-be-model came to the shoot with an attitude as if we were her "help".  I showed her the cocktail dress I picked out for her and she quickly took off her clothes to try it on.  I could not believe it... she came to the shoot with about 1" long and thick hair on her legs.  When I said WTF and why?  Her reply was, "If you don't like it, work around it because it's gorgeous." 

I then turn to the makeup artist and said, "Oh No She Didn't!"  All I could do is fall out laughing in the girl's face. After I stopped, I told her we are going to focus on head shots as soon as I can get the make up artist to wax her uni-bra. 

Have you ever had an "Oh No She Didn't..." experience.  If so, please share.  We all need a good laugh or reality check.

Ewww gross, thats not even an "oh no she didnt", that is a "oh hell no!".  I mean she is acting like she is the one and ONLY model there is to work with!, all of that attitude she was boasting (please), you should have shown her to the nearest exit.

Narvell wrote:
You like that big daddy!?!  (ROFLMAF!!!)  You like that thick furry tan!?!
(ROFLMAF!!!)
(ROFLMAF!!!)
(ROFLMAF!!!)

Andrea-Anderson wrote:
Ewwwwwwwwww. Thick furry tan. Ewwwwwww...... Now how the hell am I gonna get THAT outta my head?

*runs to grab the body wax as an offering if needed!* lmao

Yeah... that is one of those random comments I come up with.  It even disturbs me.  LOL!!!

Makeup FX by Vanessa wrote:
Oh god so sad but yes this has happened.  Firist of all the model That showed was not what was requested- girl said she was a 3-4, BS she was a 9-10 and could not fit into the clothes provided.  Then after squeezing all her extras into an outfit she comes back to show us how she looked and girl had hairy underarms, eyebrows, lip and legs.  No, No, No honey not working- she was sent to a waxing place and had every hair that was not supposed to be there removed.  That is a damn shame for models to show up wasted, with leftover makeup, dirty and unshaved- granted it is our job to make them beautiful but it's not our job to groom them when they show up.  It's very unprofessional and if they want to get to be pro ther should keep up to standards because there is compitition out there and they show aready groomed.

Amen

Duncan wrote:
I once had a girl show up on drugs , I think she might have been on Heroin, She had that Nod that they get, After one roll I told her we were done, she paid me in Crisp $100 bills and left , never made a fuss and got into her chauffeur driven car !

"... that Nod that they get"... THAT IS HILARIOUS!!!

Sonntag wrote:

Fair enough; certainly - we all have our own preferences :-)

But I think that *I* might want to try this... and I'd sure love to see someone in public with the guts for this, for once. I even have interest from a photographer or two to shoot this sort of thing... it's cool that no matter what it is, there are enough people in this damn world - on this forum, even - to find a co-conspirator for just about anything.

Sonntag
~if you don't like it, don't look

so lovely to know that not every person out there belives we must all go by the same "rules" that dictate beauty to achieve it.

Nikki S. wrote:
lmaooooooo thats so entirely gross... as a model, you should have no unwanted hair... so basically you should have the hair on your head, your eyelashes, and your 2 eyebrows, not just one.  eww no hair on the legs, upperlip, underarms, and most definitely no hair that bridges your two eyebrows together! tsk tsk

what about thick, coarse hair on the forehead, cheeks, knuckles and chest... I'm talking about on FEMALE models.... eckhhh!!!!!!

Tuesday Jean wrote:

so lovely to know that not every person out there belives we must all go by the same "rules" that dictate beauty to achieve it.

I think its great that people want to grow their body hair long and express their uniqueness, they can braid their under arm hair if they like.....  But no...not if youre a model and expect to work.   If the shoot calls for a furry model I'm sure the agent will let the model know well in advance   if not, the industry standard would be to show up without body hair.