the Q  wrote:
Craig I am pleased to announce that Joye Chanson MM# 725693 will be volunteering on my team!

benson

Awesome~!! I love Joye's work. I have a shoot with her in December.

Going to add her now.

SJH photography wrote:
hi craig .
i have pinched crowbird of the list of people awaiting assignment if thats ok with you , she is all up for joining the motw team if thats ok with you and others .
steve

Yes Steve, anyone on the wait list is good to go wherever we may need them, as long as the proposed assignment is something they feel they are willing and able to do. There is a "right" place for everyone to be involved.

the Q  wrote:
RE: Steve and Teri's ideas.

I think it a bit heavy handed to require anyone to vote in any contest. I can certainly appreciate the need to generate a faithful and excited group of thread followers and voters. I think that by requiring anyone who enters to cross vote, or to require that a volunteer vote in all contests you make voting a sort of job. The best way to kill the love and excitement for a thing is to make it a job.

I think that the best way to generate the excitement and attendance that these contest threads need is to allow them to grow organically. I feel that if we run these babies like well oiled machines, we will draw a wider pool of entrants and that will bring wider contest participation. I also think that each Team Leader needs to really think about why they wanted to lead their team. Write your reasons for wanting to support these contest threads down. Where is your passion for this? THAT is what you can use to pitch and sell your contest!

Requiring votes in the end is rather fascist and not at all democratic.

my 22 cents (inflation you know!)

benson

Thanks Benson.

Anyone else want to add? I feel we will make a unanimous decision on this issue by days end.

Craig Seay wrote:

Thanks Benson.

Anyone else want to add? I feel we will make a unanimous decision on this issue by days end.

I agree.  We may actually turn a couple people away from entering the contests just because they don't want to *have* to vote.

Peter Buckley-Saxon wrote:
Hi all

I could do with some 'Team Mayhem' help with running the newly launched  '5th LIST - Mentor support for Makeup Artists".



So if anyone out there can help, please feel free to message me.

Thanks

Peter

Hey Peter, it's looking good~!! I'll post the 5th LIST with logo tonight when I get back to the studio and we'll officially bring it in to Team Mayhem. In the meantime TM volunteers are free to join your team.

Craig Seay wrote:

Thanks Benson.

Anyone else want to add? I feel we will make a unanimous decision on this issue by days end.

I agree with Benson that it can become a job. However, I think that the cross voting was just tossing ideas around at the time. I do think that for the time being until we get more interest from general Mayhem public that having our Volunteers vote in each would be a great deal of help. We all know that  getting unbiased votes, based on the merit of the contestant and not friendship is hard to come by. I  think the passion of the contest,the value behind it, it lies in the votes of those that are dedicated to it the most. The team leaders, the volunteers. And yes the contestants. I do have to say that yes I am against REQUIRING the contestants to vote in anything. I think suggestion is the only thing. I think when they do vote esp. in their own contest it only shows a winning character on their behalf. I see nothing wrong and do like the idea of promoting within our own contests though. I think its a great idea to have the contestants vote in the other contests. Should it be required, I dont know. Probably not. Stressed by us through tags, and statements we make in and on our own forums, yes. I think Craig and Benson are both right in conversations I have had with them when it comes to rules. People shy away the more there are. So we as a team will just have to use our magical "Jedi mind trick" via internet and power of suggestion.

Just my 50 cents (inflation + convenience charge + tax )

Miss Teri Lynn wrote:
I agree with Benson that it can become a job. However, I think that the cross voting was just tossing ideas around at the time. I do think that for the time being until we get more interest from general Mayhem public that having our Volunteers vote in each would be a great deal of help. We all know that  getting unbiased votes, based on the merit of the contestant and not friendship is hard to come by. I  think the passion of the contest,the value behind it, it lies in the votes of those that are dedicated to it the most. The team leaders, the volunteers. And yes the contestants. I do have to say that yes I am against REQUIRING the contestants to vote in anything. I think suggestion is the only thing. I think when they do vote esp. in their own contest it only shows a winning character on their behalf. I see nothing wrong and do like the idea of promoting within our own contests though. I think its a great idea to have the contestants vote in the other contests. Should it be required, I dont know. Probably not. Stressed by us through tags, and statements we make in and on our own forums, yes. I think Craig and Benson are both right in conversations I have had with them when it comes to rules. People shy away the more there are. So we as a team will just have to use our magical "Jedi mind trick" via internet and power of suggestion.

Just my 50 cents (inflation + convenience charge + tax )

I think that by the very fact that people are volunteering you have their participation. This "push" to get MORE Voters NOW seems heavy handed and poorly timed. Let the Team Leaders have a week to get their act together. Stand back and see what each of us can do to generate excitement for our own contest thread. Brainstorming is wonderful and needed, so is patience and thoughtfulness. I believe that as these threads even out and begin to run like clockwork, as the burden is lifted from one man and a few volunteers to the shoulders of all of the capable Shift Leaders, ideas and new life will flow like water.

I advocate a light and fun approach in reminding people to vote or in suggesting that they vote in other contest threads. FUN, is at the core of all of what we do after all!

The minute that any of us comes down with the dreaded disease TITS we are all doomed!

TITS = Taking It To Seriously

the Q  wrote:
I think that by the very fact that people are volunteering you have their participation. This "push" to get MORE Voters NOW seems heavy handed and poorly timed. Let the Team Leaders have a week to get their act together. Stand back and see what each of us can do to generate excitement for our own contest thread. Brainstorming is wonderful and needed, so is patience and thoughtfulness. I believe that as these threads even out and begin to run like clockwork, as the burden is lifted from one man and a few volunteers to the shoulders of all of the capable Shift Leaders, ideas and new life will flow like water.

I advocate a light and fun approach in reminding people to vote or in suggesting that they vote in other contest threads. FUN, is at the core of all of what we do after all!

The minute that any of us comes down with the dreaded disease TITS we are all doomed!

TITS = Taking It To Seriously

I nominate the Q for President~!! I love this guy.

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the Q  wrote:
Craig I am pleased to announce that Joye Chanson MM# 725693 will be volunteering on my team!

benson

Craig Seay wrote:
CLASSIFIEDS UpDated 10:00am Nov. 3



This is where we park volunteers waiting for assignment. Member OPs please feel free to dive in to this pool of talent.
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This is where I post requests from OPs wanting volunteers for specified needs. Please check here if you are looking for something to do, then contact the OP. As these jobs are filled I will remove them.

(1) I need several volunteers to help me promote the MM Model of the Week,
the MM Photographer of the Week, and the mm MUA of the Week contests. Duties would include contacting amazing photographers and models to introduce them to these threads. • Additional duties would be to send a Tag to Voters and Contestants each week with a "Thank You" and/or "Good Luck", for their participation. A bump or two a day would also be helpful.
(2) The LIST needs volunteers to help organize an email distribution list. This email list will be used to help us connect photographers with new models on the "Please Just Shoot Me" list and to inform members on current events.
(3) NEW~ We need to build a volunteer team for our newest MENTOR thread The 5th LIST-MENTOR support for newbie Makeup Artists. Please apply here in Team Mayhem or pm Peter Buckley-Saxon.

SJH photography wrote:
As terri has said we are tossing ideas around regarding getting the votes .

It may have seemed a bit heavy asking volunteers to vote on other threads , when they may wish to abstain but we were talking only of asking them to help out same as asking entrants to vote on other threads .I personally vote on the other threads doesnt take long at all ,which also works as a bit of inter team comraderie(think thats how its spelt if not   )  .

Yes we are getting the entrants , but i myself feel a bit sad when we cant get the votes for the participants, when they have took trouble to get involved i feel like i am letting them down . So if any one has any other ideas i am all ears or should that be eyes 
steve

Tossing ideas around is always a good thing and certainly better than Tossing Cookies or Tossing the Baby out with the Bathwater!

Perhaps it is due to the fact that, as a Designer, I am constantly having to resell my market, that gives me this point of view? I see this as a basic sales and marketing issue. The way to gain a sale is not ever to PUSH your target. The way to a successful sale is to first seek out what the buyer's resistance is. Then you systematically address each issue until the resistance is gone. One MUA told me that she hasn't entered because it seems egotistical. That is directly in support of my opinion that this is seen as a serious competition and not a fun way to network!

The item being sold, in this case the desire to enter and to vote, must have obvious traits that are desirable. In our case FUN, EXPOSURE, NETWORKING, LIMELIGHT!

The VERY minute that the voting or entering becomes a bullet pointed excersize requiring a handbook, we will have lost. We need to streamline the proccess if anything. We need to make it easy to enter and easier to vote.

I think that the voters are often confused by the collage that is so wonderfully arranged by Xandx! I myself was confused by 2 of these collages. I think that a more dynamic EASIER to comprehend numerically correct graphic is in order. A confused voter doesn't vote, after all who likes feeling stupid or confused?

I also think that the guidelines about entering and voting are overly officious and verbose. They need editing. Really entering and voting are a simple process! I think that we should also include a brief summary on how to place images in an entry! I have chatted with 2 MUA who just didn't know how to post to enter!

Craig Seay wrote:

Craig Seay wrote:
CLASSIFIEDS UpDated 10:00am Nov. 3

Craig, Crowbird is for the Model of the week.
I do need volunteers for my team. I esp. need someone in the states. Let me know if you are interested in Photog of the week Volunteers. My Team Rocks!