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Wardrobe Stylist

Narvell

Posts: 324

Dallas, Texas, US

Questions we have for some of our clients and we don't understand totally why they need us, nor do we care if they insist and pay via cash. 


Q. Why do you need to hire me if you are doing playboy style photos and all the photos are going to be nude? 

A. Oh... you need me to bring the shoes.

Mar 15 06 02:09 am Link

Photographer

Tim Baker-fotoPerfecta

Posts: 9877

Portland, Oregon, US

Narvell wrote:
Questions we have for some of our clients and we don't understand totally why they need us, nor do we care if they insist and pay via cash. 


Q. Why do you need to hire me if you are doing playboy style photos and all the photos are going to be nude? 

A. Oh... you need me to bring the shoes.

Playboy type models are heavily madeup but not to the point of looking like cement of pancake all over them. A good Stylist (and some basic Ps) works wonders....with the emphasis being on the stylists work.  The less the PS, the better. /tim

Mar 15 06 04:43 am Link

Photographer

name name

Posts: 2602

New York, New York, US

(She's a wardrobe stylist, not a MUA.)

Haha, of course, the shoes! *rolls eyes* Every model I've shot with has had a multitude of her own shoes, since she knows what size her feet are and what fits good, etc etc.

At least you can say you provided the shoes wink

Mar 15 06 11:47 am Link

Photographer

David A

Posts: 373

Pleasant Grove, Utah, US

Narvell wrote:
Questions we have for some of our clients and we don't understand totally why they need us, nor do we care if they insist and pay via cash. 


Q. Why do you need to hire me if you are doing playboy style photos and all the photos are going to be nude? 

A. Oh... you need me to bring the shoes.

I read an article that said, clothes need to be styled even if they not being worn.  Article was "So you want to be a Playboy Photographer".  I think it came out around 6 months ago in Popular Photography.  If I get home and find out it's wrong I'll update this post.

David

Mar 15 06 12:06 pm Link

Makeup Artist

Rayrayrose

Posts: 3510

Los Angeles, California, US

AlwaysMadeUp wrote:
(She's a wardrobe stylist, not a MUA.)

Haha, of course, the shoes! *rolls eyes* Every model I've shot with has had a multitude of her own shoes, since she knows what size her feet are and what fits good, etc etc.

At least you can say you provided the shoes wink

models always seem to bring the most godwaful shoes with them to shoots though.

Mar 15 06 01:20 pm Link

Makeup Artist

MP Make-up Artistry

Posts: 5105

Prince George, British Columbia, Canada

yah they are all old and broken in or look like stripper shoes although some times that works but not always smile

Mar 15 06 01:47 pm Link

Wardrobe Stylist

Narvell

Posts: 324

Dallas, Texas, US

Deadly Design Make-up wrote:
yah they are all old and broken in or look like stripper shoes although some times that works but not always smile

Ohhhhh I hate the stripper shoes! 

Also something else crazy... My cousin is a hair stylist and she got booked for a shoot with a bald head female model.  She asked the booker what kind of wigs should she bring and the booker said none.  You will be there to style the girl's hair.  What?  Okay... I can't wait to see how that shoot goes.

Mar 15 06 03:12 pm Link

Photographer

name name

Posts: 2602

New York, New York, US

Eh, well I guess I've been lucky. The girls I've worked with have lovely shoes that I contemplate stealing, if only I had a size six shoe.

Mar 15 06 03:17 pm Link

Wardrobe Stylist

CamelaC

Posts: 120

Charlotte, North Carolina, US

Narvell wrote:

Ohhhhh I hate the stripper shoes! 

Also something else crazy... My cousin is a hair stylist and she got booked for a shoot with a bald head female model.  She asked the booker what kind of wigs should she bring and the booker said none.  You will be there to style the girl's hair.  What?  Okay... I can't wait to see how that shoot goes.

LMAO....  Yeah.. lemme know how it goes.

But.. I have had several Porn Stars and Playboy like Models contact me for panties and shoes for a shoot. Some just ask me to bring accessories and the lingerie, just so it can sit on the ground. Go figure.

Mar 15 06 06:23 pm Link

Hair Stylist

Rae Deslich

Posts: 15

Chicago, Illinois, US

CamelaC wrote:
But.. I have had several Porn Stars and Playboy like Models contact me for panties and shoes for a shoot. Some just ask me to bring accessories and the lingerie, just so it can sit on the ground. Go figure.

Well sure- they need set dressing, right? wink

Mar 17 06 12:00 am Link

Model

theda

Posts: 21719

New York, New York, US

Narvell wrote:

Ohhhhh I hate the stripper shoes! 

Also something else crazy... My cousin is a hair stylist and she got booked for a shoot with a bald head female model.  She asked the booker what kind of wigs should she bring and the booker said none.  You will be there to style the girl's hair.  What?  Okay... I can't wait to see how that shoot goes.

Sounds like a paid vacation. Weird.

Mar 17 06 04:58 pm Link

Photographer

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Posts: 4576

Narvell wrote:
Also something else crazy... My cousin is a hair stylist and she got booked for a shoot with a bald head female model.  She asked the booker what kind of wigs should she bring and the booker said none.  You will be there to style the girl's hair.  What?  Okay... I can't wait to see how that shoot goes.

Maybe her armpit or pubic hair needs braiding.

Mar 17 06 05:00 pm Link

Makeup Artist

Ashley Elizabeth

Posts: 1127

Miami Beach, Florida, US

Actually stylists usually asume the roll of set designer as well.  But yeah, what the poster above me said.... they need set dressing.  A stylist's job does not end with the clothes in a lot of cases.  And I think this is something a lot of aspiring stylists misunderstand. 

Okay, time to drink some green beer.  Happy St. Patty's Day.

Ashley

Mar 17 06 07:52 pm Link

Photographer

Hamza

Posts: 7791

New York, New York, US

Ashley Elizabeth wrote:
Actually stylists usually asume the roll of set designer as well.  But yeah, what the poster above me said.... they need set dressing.  A stylist's job does not end with the clothes in a lot of cases.  And I think this is something a lot of aspiring stylists misunderstand. 

Okay, time to drink some green beer.  Happy St. Patty's Day.

Ashley

I don't know who or what kind of clients you have, but a Stylist is a Stylist and a Set Designer is a Set Designer.  If you are Designing Sets, you should be charging EXTRA for it.  A Stylist is there ONLY to Style the Model not the Set.

That would be like me not only doing the Photography, but doing the make-up as well...

Mar 17 06 08:06 pm Link

Makeup Artist

Ashley Elizabeth

Posts: 1127

Miami Beach, Florida, US

Hamza wrote:
I don't know who or what kind of clients you have, but a Stylist is a Stylist and a Set Designer is a Set Designer.  If you are Designing Sets, you should be charging EXTRA for it.  A Stylist is there ONLY to Style the Model not the Set.

That would be like me not only doing the Photography, but doing the make-up as well...

And Hazma, tell me again when the last time you had a photoshoot was?  I thought on your profile I read that you are only in broadcast now.  I thought you hadn't shot for any real clients since the 80's.  Or at least that's what I got from looking at the images on your profile here.

And darling, you're in New York.  Not Dallas like the OP and I are.

Oh and just a few of my clients...

McDonalds
Harold's
Gatorade
GQ
People
Samsung
Nokia
Frito Lay
Macaroni Grill
Radio Shack
Hasbro
Anheuser Busch

smile

Mar 17 06 08:12 pm Link

Makeup Artist

Camera Ready Studios

Posts: 7191

Dallas, Texas, US

Ashley is correct....  I do styling, I styled the last GM commercial, New balance spring campaign 2005 and thats just to name a few, my regular styling clients are Getty images, Corbis, Intel, Hewlett Packard, Sony  and many more.  Part of my styling job is props, thats just part of the job....you get the tennis outfit and you get the rackets and and sometimes the net....  I am normally in charge of setting the scene for the shot, not always but 50% of the photographers I work with ask me to do it (with the art director directing normally)  If they want an abundance of props and prop styling I do charge extra and I never do it without an assistant. I have a day rate that becomes much larger when you add responsablitly to the job and I just bill for the number or assistants the job will require.

Most large jobs that require wardrobe and props I will insist on another key stylist to do props because my car isnt big enough and frankly I'm just not up to another huge  prop and wardrobe job but in San Diego we don't really have prop stylists, they are wardrobe stylists that also do props.  I'm sure in LA and NY there is enough work to support people that just do props and just wardrobe but you have to look at your market and in most market a prop stylist that just did prop styling would starve.


OK, Here is a common list of what kinds of people are on large jobs in SD.


I just got off a job last night for a food company you would know (I don't like to give my client list out when jobs are fresh)  We had makeup and hair me.  A stylist with 2 assistants she was doing props and wardrobe, photographer with 4 assistants and  5 art director/client reps.   Producer, RV driver, general PA and over 30 models in a 2 day period.... I should have had 2 assistants as well but we wont get into that right now. sad      on a job this large you would think a prop stylist would be in order but even with most of the crew coming down from LA, and abundance of money being spent  the wardrobe stylist still did props!  So there ya go.

Mar 18 06 11:07 am Link