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The Best Camera question again.
Honestly, for the sub $2000 dollar market, a D90 is the best way to go right now. It has the best of what makes Nikon a leader (In camera autofocus, sharpness, 2 LCD screens) but none of the worst points some of the Nikons have had in the past. Still, of course their are better cameras, but so much empaphasis is places on the bodies when the glass controls a LOT of what you're talking about. So, I'd get a D90 (in fact I am later this year) and save the rest for glass or lighting. (The Prime lenses would be ideal IMO - 50mm is a great lens, and the 1.8 is still a bargain, although the 1.4 is quite breathtaking!) Jun 04 09 12:56 pm Link La Seine by the Hudson wrote: If you are so sure that the M8 is nothing more than a Panasonic camera with an M mount, provide some proof. I have seen the M8 in production in Germany, there is nothing Panasonic about it. Jun 05 09 08:19 am Link GMP Photography - Heinz wrote: The guts are Panasonic, designed by Panasonic, with a Kodak sensor. Leica has had a partnership with them for some time (including the design and manufacture of one of the Leica-branded digi P&Ss). The partnership with Panasonic is not particularly well-publicized for obvious PR reasons. Jun 05 09 08:32 am Link Try the Fuji S5 as others have mentioned...wedding photogs swear by it, even w/ the slow clunky UI. Buy some Zeiss glass for your Nikon? (I have no idea what you mean by "bad skin", so I'm guessing) Or pick up a Pentax DSLR (they're pretty inexpensive at $600 for a K20D) and the 43Ltd and 77Ltd primes (they have that Zeiss, slightly warm look). Jun 05 09 09:04 am Link La Seine by the Hudson wrote: The guts being Panasonic is an overstatement. Only the electronics are with a Kodak sensor. That, however, does not make it a "Panasonic with an M mount." Leica, like many other camera manufacturers, is not an electronics manufacturer and subsequently have to obtaion the electronics for their cameras elsewhere. That has no bearing on the quality of the camera. As for the rest of your statement, I am not sure what you base your opinion on, it is definitely not shared by many longtime Leica users. But that is a different issue. I questioned your over the top statement of the M8 being a Panasonic with an M mount. Jun 05 09 09:09 am Link What about the R4's? Jun 06 09 09:27 am Link The R4 had nothing to do with Panasonic at all. Jun 07 09 07:52 am Link I know. What i meant was: What do you all think about the R4's? Jun 07 09 11:03 am Link Poster Says: "I'm looking for serious advise regarding the best camera I can buy and suits my needs." Well $40.000 buys a good Medium Format with 2 prime lenses and a digital back. Jun 07 09 11:16 am Link You mean the "Leica" lens on my Panasonic P+S's not real? Jun 07 09 12:31 pm Link Gabriel Rodz wrote: Then you should check this out: Jun 07 09 12:37 pm Link I'll stick in my opinion even though it doesn't directly answer which base to buy. If I could start over I'd buy all the best glass I could afford then with what I had left over - a base that fits all the glass. The glass sees it, the base records it so even with a good base, bad glass can interfere. If I shoot RAW I can adjust for any limitations the base might present. Right? Not rocket science to anyone here, but it might inspire another option. Good luck with your final purchase.  Jun 07 09 01:20 pm Link GMP Photography - Heinz wrote: Doesn't matter; it's an accurate statement. Jun 07 09 01:21 pm Link Rather than say it's the photographer, not the camera, I'd modify this view for those who might be sensitive about hearing this by saying that a lot of 'rules' and 'techniques' suggested by even the best photographers should not be followed religiously. If you're doing something 'by the book' and it doesn't result in 'by the book' images, instead of a new camera, consider that you might have to adjust or tweak your technique by experimenting with such things as non-traditional color balance setups, lighting arrangements, and any number of other factors. Jun 07 09 01:32 pm Link Ok, I don't mean to be rude or point at anyone or anything like that. But I'm kinda tired of the whole it's not the camera, it's the photog argument and this is why: In majority, people who get behind that argument are not so great photographers. And you can see it in the wikipedia language they use and above all, their ports. All the great photogs I've spoken to about this subject, always contribute with insightful comments and recommendations. It is OBVIOUS that there's no camera that will take great pictures for you. We see it all the time, specially here on MM. I think we have to move beyond that, and that's why I stated it clearly in the original post. This is an INFORMATIONAL thread meant to give me and others serious insights about the kind of cameras available that will suit this particular need. For example, if I'm gonna do mostly fashion, advertising and candid pics, I don't NEED to spend $5K in a D2, I can buy a d300 or even a d90 with good glass; nor should I buy a clumsy gigantic RZ67, 'cause there will be times I'll be on location and that's uncomfortable. We learned that a rangefinder with good glass can become very handy when you're looking for a more candid style. I won't keep on listing cause it would be redundant, but at least I learned a lot. I don't know guys, I don't consider myself a great photographer, I'm not a pro, but I happen to land a few gigs every now and then, and would like to have a camera I feel comfortable with and can rely on as well as give my clients the best image quality I can get. If I can light up well, or chose a right composition, or hit PS/Lightroom like a mofo'er, it's irrelevant, because right now, it's about the camera. :: If I need advise on lighting, composition or editing I will post it in another thread and will gladly receive your opinions. For now, I'm sticking with the useful camera suggestions :: Thank you very much. G. PD. So, for now, I'll go with the D90, F5 and good glass. And maybe a 645af, not sure yet. Jun 07 09 08:45 pm Link Whereas, perhaps your present problem is with the old D100, the most likely problem is with your camera set up and post processing work flow. I, too, have shot with Nikons since way back in the days when I thought that pushing Tri-X to 1600 was a thrill! I have a substantial investment in Nikon's best lenses, and shoot with a D700 and a 300 for backup. I have no issues with skin tone. I can get what I want through proper camera set up and, more importantly, in my post work. If you've got the significant investment in quality Nikon glass, then I wouldn't consider switching to another camera line. Jun 07 09 08:51 pm Link Gabriel Rodz wrote: I used two R4's for several years, both with motor winder and motor drives, and never experienced any problems at all. Both performed like a Leica should. Jun 08 09 08:01 am Link Stereoblind wrote: While that is basically correct, one also needs to consider that some of the best glass will never perform to its full potential unless it is used on a camera body that is within the tolerance levels of the lenses. For instance, some of the Leica lenses have an extremely small focus shift between the primary and secondary spectrum, which does lead to noticeably better performance levels. However, to take full advantage of that it requires a camera body that is made to mechanical tolerances of 1/100 mm (1/2500 inch). Other than Leica, there are currently no cameras made that precisely. Jun 08 09 08:07 am Link |
