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Model

CGL

Posts: 72

Chicago, Illinois, US

Someone told me you have to do sexual favors and model nude to get to the top of the modeling industry since the industry is tough and what not.

Me personally, I would never model nude nor use my body sexually to please someone just to get to the top. I think it is just wrong.

Tell me what you think.

Kat

Jun 02 09 11:13 am Link

Photographer

Image K

Posts: 23400

Las Vegas, Nevada, US

Kat Lee Daligdig wrote:
Someone told me you have to do sexual favors and model nude to get to the top of the modeling industry since the industry is tough and what not.

Me personally, I would never model nude nor use my body sexually to please someone just to get to the top. I think it is just wrong.

Tell me what you think.

Kat

Do you believe everything that you hear?

Jun 02 09 11:14 am Link

Photographer

StephenEastwood

Posts: 19585

Great Neck, New York, US

you are 17.  No you do not.  Some do, some ask, some don't, but you do not HAVE TOO. 

also at 5'1" you need be realistic what market you go after, someone claiming they can make you a high fashion model superstar is lying regardless of what the offer or promise.  hmm




Stephen Eastwood
http://www.PhotographersPortfolio.com

Jun 02 09 11:15 am Link

Model

CGL

Posts: 72

Chicago, Illinois, US

Image K wrote:

Do you believe everything that you hear?

A person who I was recently going to work for told me If I wasn't willing to do sexual favors in the near future I wouldn't be successful nor would they want to hire me.

Jun 02 09 11:16 am Link

Photographer

StephenEastwood

Posts: 19585

Great Neck, New York, US

Kat Lee Daligdig wrote:
A person who I was recently going to work for told me If I wasn't willing to do sexual favors in the near future I wouldn't be successful nor would they want to hire me.

report them.   They were using that as a pathetic ploy to either get on top or get you on top sad

Stephen Eastwood
http://www.PhotographersPortfolio.com

Jun 02 09 11:16 am Link

Photographer

Andrew Thomas Evans

Posts: 24079

Minneapolis, Minnesota, US

Kat Lee Daligdig wrote:
Someone told me you have to do sexual favors and model nude to get to the top of the modeling industry since the industry is tough and what not.

Me personally, I would never model nude nor use my body sexually to please someone just to get to the top. I think it is just wrong.

Tell me what you think.

Kat

Who told you that?

Seriously,

Jun 02 09 11:17 am Link

Photographer

Photography by BE

Posts: 5652

Midland, Texas, US

Image K wrote:
Do you believe everything that you hear?

Kat Lee Daligdig wrote:
A person who I was recently going to work for told me If I wasn't willing to do sexual favors in the near future I wouldn't be successful nor would they want to hire me.

So, this person is a famous, successful photographer?  Maybe a GWC... either way, it is a crock.. just go elsewhere.

Jun 02 09 11:18 am Link

Photographer

Robert Randall

Posts: 13890

Chicago, Illinois, US

Jun 02 09 11:18 am Link

Model

CGL

Posts: 72

Chicago, Illinois, US

Andrew Thomas Designs wrote:

Who told you that?

Seriously,

I wont name them. I don't want to embarrass them.

Jun 02 09 11:18 am Link

Photographer

StephenEastwood

Posts: 19585

Great Neck, New York, US

Andrew Thomas Designs wrote:

Who told you that?

Seriously,

DO NOT ANSWER THAT, it may be outing......


Stephen Eastwood
http://www.PhotographersPortfolio.com

Jun 02 09 11:18 am Link

Model

CGL

Posts: 72

Chicago, Illinois, US

Robert Randall wrote:
What is this all about?

https://www.modelmayhem.com/pic.php?pic … up_id=&ua=

That's me and my husband

Jun 02 09 11:18 am Link

Photographer

Andrew Thomas Evans

Posts: 24079

Minneapolis, Minnesota, US

StephenEastwood wrote:
DO NOT ANSWER THAT, it may be outing......


Stephen Eastwood
http://www.PhotographersPortfolio.com

Sorry, I meant that in a "what the fuck" sense.

Jun 02 09 11:19 am Link

Photographer

Image K

Posts: 23400

Las Vegas, Nevada, US

Kat Lee Daligdig wrote:

A person who I was recently going to work for told me If I wasn't willing to do sexual favors in the near future I wouldn't be successful nor would they want to hire me.

So...

I ask you again...

Do you believe everything that you hear?

Jun 02 09 11:20 am Link

Model

CGL

Posts: 72

Chicago, Illinois, US

Image K wrote:

So...

I ask you again...

Do you believe everything that you hear?

No I don't

Jun 02 09 11:22 am Link

Photographer

Andrew Thomas Evans

Posts: 24079

Minneapolis, Minnesota, US

Image K wrote:
So...

I ask you again...

Do you believe everything that you hear?

Really?

Jun 02 09 11:23 am Link

Retoucher

StaciC

Posts: 3128

Swansea, Illinois, US

I don't want to be the odd one here lol
but i think ofcourse you can skip steps if you meet the right people who are acually "up there" and play on it..

Jun 02 09 11:24 am Link

Photographer

Image K

Posts: 23400

Las Vegas, Nevada, US

Kat Lee Daligdig wrote:

No I don't

Then ignore it, and move on.

Jun 02 09 11:27 am Link

Model

Envy

Posts: 11189

Nashville, Tennessee, US

Kat Lee Daligdig wrote:
A person who I was recently going to work for told me If I wasn't willing to do sexual favors in the near future I wouldn't be successful nor would they want to hire me.

Image K wrote:
So...

I ask you again...

Do you believe everything that you hear?

Shit... I've been going about it the wrong way this whole time... hmm

Jun 02 09 11:28 am Link

Photographer

Photography by BE

Posts: 5652

Midland, Texas, US

SCRetouching wrote:
I don't want to be the odd one here lol
but i think ofcourse you can skip steps if you meet the right people who are acually "up there" and play on it..

So, what you are saying is...

If a model can find the right photographer, one who is famous, one who is "up there", and she will sleep with him, she can skip the hard work, and get to the top.

Then you agree with  what the photograher told the op.

Jun 02 09 11:29 am Link

Photographer

Image K

Posts: 23400

Las Vegas, Nevada, US

Envy wrote:

Kat Lee Daligdig wrote:
A person who I was recently going to work for told me If I wasn't willing to do sexual favors in the near future I wouldn't be successful nor would they want to hire me.

Shit... I've been going about it the wrong way this whole time... hmm

Hey Envy...

If you and me can do the "Discovery Channel-thing", I can get you ahead in this business...

What do you think?

Mmmmm?

https://content.sweetim.com/sim/cpie/emoticons/0002006C.gif

Jun 02 09 11:30 am Link

Model

Fifi

Posts: 58134

Gainesville, Florida, US

Photography by BE wrote:

So, what you are saying is...

If a model can find the right photographer, one who is famous, one who is "up there", and she will sleep with him, she can skip the hard work, and get to the top.

Then you agree with  what the photograher told the op.

No, the photographer told the OP that if she slept with him, she would make it to the top.


That's very different.

Jun 02 09 11:30 am Link

Photographer

Vector 38

Posts: 8296

Austin, Texas, US

Kat Lee Daligdig wrote:
That's me and my husband

you're age 17 ... ?

Jun 02 09 11:31 am Link

Photographer

Sockpuppet Studios

Posts: 7862

San Francisco, California, US

Photography by BE wrote:

So, what you are saying is...

If a model can find the right photographer, one who is famous, one who is "up there", and she will sleep with him, she can skip the hard work, and get to the top.

Then you agree with  what the photograher told the op.

Knowing people is NOT the same as fucking them
Smart networking will help anyone in buisness.

Jun 02 09 11:31 am Link

Photographer

Sockpuppet Studios

Posts: 7862

San Francisco, California, US

Photography by BE wrote:

So, what you are saying is...

If a model can find the right photographer, one who is famous, one who is "up there", and she will sleep with him, she can skip the hard work, and get to the top.

Then you agree with  what the photograher told the op.

Knowing people is NOT the same as fucking them
Smart networking will help anyone in buisness.

Jun 02 09 11:31 am Link

Model

Reby

Posts: 2876

New York, New York, US

I know a lot of model hoes who don't get anywhere but down.

Jun 02 09 11:32 am Link

Retoucher

StaciC

Posts: 3128

Swansea, Illinois, US

Photography by BE wrote:

So, what you are saying is...

If a model can find the right photographer, one who is famous, one who is "up there", and she will sleep with him, she can skip the hard work, and get to the top.

Then you agree with  what the photograher told the op.

I do think playing on the RIGHT  people will get you further than the hard work it would take alone yes..

But i do not agree with what the photographer told the op here:

Kat Lee Daligdig wrote:
A person who I was recently going to work for told me If I wasn't willing to do sexual favors in the near future I wouldn't be successful nor would they want to hire me.

Jun 02 09 11:32 am Link

Photographer

Jeff Fiore

Posts: 9225

Brooklyn, New York, US

Envy wrote:

Kat Lee Daligdig wrote:
A person who I was recently going to work for told me If I wasn't willing to do sexual favors in the near future I wouldn't be successful nor would they want to hire me.

Shit... I've been going about it the wrong way this whole time... hmm

I can *cough* help you do it right

Jun 02 09 11:32 am Link

Model

Envy

Posts: 11189

Nashville, Tennessee, US

Image K wrote:

Hey Envy...

If you and me can do the "Discovery Channel-thing", I can get you ahead in this business...

What do you think?

Mmmmm?

https://content.sweetim.com/sim/cpie/emoticons/0002006C.gif

Are there monkeys involved?
I will only do it if there's monkeys.
Monkeys are cute.

Jun 02 09 11:32 am Link

Photographer

Jeff Fiore

Posts: 9225

Brooklyn, New York, US

Envy wrote:

Are there monkeys involved?
I will only do it if there's monkeys.
Monkeys are cute.

I think he was talking about the wild monkey dance

Jun 02 09 11:34 am Link

Model

CGL

Posts: 72

Chicago, Illinois, US

Vector 38 wrote:

you're age 17 ... ?

Yes and Married for a year in 28 days

Jun 02 09 11:34 am Link

Photographer

Andrew Thomas Evans

Posts: 24079

Minneapolis, Minnesota, US

Reby wrote:
I know a lot of model hoes who don't get anywhere but down.

Hey, I'll let model hoes go down on me!

big_smile

Jun 02 09 11:34 am Link

Model

J_Lange

Posts: 229

Indianapolis, Indiana, US

What an incredibly horrifying experience that would be.
Don't ever do sexual favors for anything or anyone ever!
Unless it's for your hubby & you want to be in charge of the remote for once! :-P

Jun 02 09 11:34 am Link

Photographer

StephenEastwood

Posts: 19585

Great Neck, New York, US

Kat Lee Daligdig wrote:
Someone told me you have to do sexual favors and model nude to get to the top of the modeling industry since the industry is tough and what not.

Me personally, I would never model nude nor use my body sexually to please someone just to get to the top. I think it is just wrong.

Tell me what you think.

Kat

SCRetouching wrote:
I don't want to be the odd one here lol
but i think ofcourse you can skip steps if you meet the right people who are acually "up there" and play on it..

I did not say that sleeping with the right person cannot help, it can, at times, but it is not a HAVE TOO situation as described.  And often knowing who the right person is, and being able to play the situation correctly so you do not get tossed to the side with no benefit is not as easy as it seems on TV, even the boss often has shareholders or consumers to answer too if they place the wrong person in the wrong job for the wrong reason   wink

Stephen Eastwood
http://www.PhotographersPortfolio.com

Jun 02 09 11:36 am Link

Photographer

Andrew Thomas Evans

Posts: 24079

Minneapolis, Minnesota, US

StephenEastwood wrote:
I did not say that sleeping with the right person cannot help, it can, at times, but it is not a HAVE TOO situation as described.  And often knowing who the right person is, and being able to play the situation correctly so you do not get tossed to the side with no benefit is not as easy as it seems on TV, even the boss often has shareholders or consumers to answer too if they place the wrong person in the wrong job for the wrong reason   wink

Stephen Eastwood
http://www.PhotographersPortfolio.com

Thank you Mr Eastwood for that real world input.


tongue

Jun 02 09 11:37 am Link

Photographer

Photography by BE

Posts: 5652

Midland, Texas, US

Photography by BE wrote:
So, what you are saying is...

If a model can find the right photographer, one who is famous, one who is "up there", and she will sleep with him, she can skip the hard work, and get to the top.

Then you agree with  what the photograher told the op.

Miss Fifi wrote:
No, the photographer told the OP that if she slept with him, she would make it to the top.


That's very different.

OK. how does this work?  Model sleeps with photographer, and he gives her some sort of written "contract" that she is going to make it?   I mean, he can promise her that for sexual favors he will make her a top model?

Or, does the photographer just pass her name around to others who will help her get to the top, ....edit...if she sleeps with them? ...end edit....    Doesn't sound like modeling... sounds like pimping.

Jun 02 09 11:37 am Link

Photographer

Vector 38

Posts: 8296

Austin, Texas, US

Vector 38 wrote:
you're age 17 ... ?

Kat Lee Daligdig wrote:
Yes and Married for a year in 28 days

some of the styles you describe (profile) wanting to shoot, some might draw hesitation from photographers until you've reached your majority.




ref: MMayhem Survival Guide - www.modelmayhem.com/po.php?thread_id=117121

Jun 02 09 11:38 am Link

Photographer

Image K

Posts: 23400

Las Vegas, Nevada, US

Kat Lee Daligdig wrote:

Yes and Married for a year in 28 days

So, you were married at 16?

https://i13.tinypic.com/89vssye.gif

Jun 02 09 11:39 am Link

Photographer

Andrew Thomas Evans

Posts: 24079

Minneapolis, Minnesota, US

Vector 38 wrote:
some of the styles you describe (profile) wanting to shoot, some might draw hesitation from photographers until you've reached your majority.

Some of them, but I'd shoot her in stuff like she has now, nothing really wrong with that as long as it doesn't go farther.

She and I just haven't been able to find a date yet.

Jun 02 09 11:39 am Link

Retoucher

Star the retoucher

Posts: 437

Los Angeles, California, US

Don't sleep with a married photographer. You really think he wants the girl he fucked on set, what if his wife comes around.

No only sleep with the single, divorced, estranged and widowed photographers.

Jun 02 09 11:40 am Link

Photographer

Paul Bryson Photography

Posts: 48041

Hollywood, Florida, US

Kat Lee Daligdig wrote:

A person who I was recently going to work for told me If I wasn't willing to do sexual favors in the near future I wouldn't be successful nor would they want to hire me.

Do him, and all of us, a BIG sexual favor: Cut off his penis.

Jun 02 09 11:40 am Link