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Too many friend request from retoucher!
Iits not just newbies with poor portfolios who are hassled by retouchers. In fact the higher end, more professional you become the more they target and hassle you because in their logic there is more work available and more budget. I have a blanket policy of never friending, likeing, replying to or otherwise interacting with any retouchers. oh and p.s. 90% of them are crap. Jun 29 16 01:32 am Link I do most my retouching for personal works and may outsource on commercial projects where I feel the need to. Get several friend requests from retouchers too but honestly will never hire/outsource anything to anyone unless they can do that task far better then I can do it. Most look like they are only starting off especially based on what I see on the before/after samples. Jun 29 16 07:07 am Link William Tam wrote: I've been getting them for awhile as well. As a hobbyist, I have no need for them. Jul 01 16 07:09 pm Link I simply hit the delete button.. some keep sending me more, I then click on the BLOCK button. William Tam wrote: Jul 01 16 07:19 pm Link I don't know why they are even on here, this a site for models and photographers and most photographers do their own retouching. The majority of them also seem to be from Eastern Europe and like one of the people who commented on this forum I was asked by a retoucher to send him some of my images so he could demonstrate his technique, same thing happened to me as the other poster on here described. So called retoucher was from Turkey, it seems they are looking to steal images that they can sell or pass of as their own. Just ignore or delete their requests in the future. Jul 02 16 07:51 am Link Lachance Photography wrote: then why are makeup artists on here? Jul 02 16 10:16 am Link William Tam wrote: +1 Jul 02 16 10:34 am Link R E T O U C H - MM wrote: I am relative new to portrait photography. My background is landscape, where retouching Is really not needed. Jul 02 16 11:54 am Link R E T O U C H - MM wrote: I am relative new to portrait photography. My background is landscape, where retouching Is really not needed. Jul 02 16 11:54 am Link Just got another one today. Jul 02 16 12:14 pm Link Retouchers are the phone solicitors of MM. 10% of them rely on their product to speak for itself. The other 90% of them are high-pressure salesmen who believe annoying customers into buying what they don't need is a respectable business practice. You can ignore them. You can yell at them. You can harass them back. You can report them. You can state in your profile that you have no use for them and no interest in their services. But there's absolutely nothing you can do to that will make them go away and leave you alone. Jul 02 16 12:33 pm Link I "collect" friend requests from retouchers. If you don't accept or deny them, they can't re-apply. 34 and counting...  Jul 02 16 12:42 pm Link Chuckarelei wrote: i wonder why? Jul 02 16 12:50 pm Link Lachance Photography wrote: So what? If 1% of people hire them, why should they care about the other 99%? And looking at the average port doesn't certainly doesn't make me think that the average photographer here wouldn't benefit from better retouching. The majority of them also seem to be from Eastern Europe and like one of the people who commented on this forum I was asked by a retoucher to send him some of my images so he could demonstrate his technique, same thing happened to me as the other poster on here described. So called retoucher was from Turkey, it seems they are looking to steal images that they can sell or pass of as their own. Your conclusion seems a touch paranoid and silly to me; I really doubt that anyone considers your images worth that much effort to steal. There's nothing more sinister here than that a $10 retouching fee goes a long way in some parts of the world. Jul 06 16 08:12 am Link BTHPhoto wrote: Is getting a friend request really that annoying or high-pressure? Jul 06 16 08:13 am Link Retouchers reaching out to potential Clients whether it is via Model Mayhem or other platforms are reasonable choices they make. It's as simple as a Facebook Friend Request. If you do not want to network with an individual who's added you, then you simply do not click on that "Accept" button. Rarely will one complain about who attempted to add them on Facebook, for instance. For those who take it personal when a Retoucher or someone else inquires on Paid Work to perform, think of it this way: Doors do not knock on themselves. If you retouch your own work, then a simple message is all that is needed to the inquiries that you do not need Retouching services at the moment. Jul 06 16 08:47 am Link I have had 3 fr's from retouchers in the past week.. Jul 07 16 12:32 am Link Now it has started on LinkedIn. I have received 4 or 5 requests on LinkedIn the last few days. They are all from different female profiles, all from different locations through the US, all from "Fix It Photo". A couple of them have been in what appears to be Russian. Jul 08 16 05:38 am Link Blimey Studios wrote: I do the same, have 44 already Jul 08 16 06:36 am Link I get them all the time. I even added a statement at the top of my profile stating that I am an artistic photographer and that editing/retouching was an integral part of my process/work, but that didn't slow them down.  Jul 08 16 08:08 am Link Blimey Studios wrote: Rene de Haan wrote: I have to admit I hadn't thought of that...that is what I will do from now on! Jul 08 16 04:35 pm Link For me all the retouched are based in the former Soviet Union. Russia or the Ukraine. Sorry but I don't let just anyone touch my files. And his would I pay them - give them a credit card number? Right! Jul 09 16 05:19 am Link All of the people spamming me with retouch offers are Ukrainians. It's like I'm on some telemarketing list in Ukraine. How many Ukrainian retouchers are out there? It seems like an inexhaustible deluge. Jul 09 16 06:08 pm Link I get them all of the time too on here and FB. And I can retouch better then most of them... They are just hungry and looking for work. And my guess is if you're work looks good they think you are hiring a retoucher now or might have a need for one if you get a lot of work. If I was theme that's probably what I'd do rather than go after the GWC type that obviously could care less what their photos look like or don't have the budget for retouching. Jul 09 16 06:22 pm Link Bloody old thread ! Jul 10 16 07:47 am Link William Tam wrote: I get a lot of them. At first I accepted them but that only seemed to open a flood gate of friend request from retouchers. I have never used one because I prefer doing my own post work, otherwise my vision gets overrun by how someone else visualize the look I wanted. Jul 10 16 08:29 am Link I get a lot of friend requests from retouchers and I usually just ignore them. But they aren't as bad as friend requests from single males on TrueNudists. I even have a line in my profile there stating I won't accept friend requests from single males. Jul 10 16 09:05 am Link Just like when we set options for a "Browse" search, wouldn't it be nice if they made it possible to check/uncheck the kind of members that you are willing to receive friend requests from? If you aren't interested in retouchers you would uncheck that. If not interested in male models from outside the USA, you could filter them too. How about it MM? Aug 13 16 02:25 pm Link William Tam wrote: So maybe 15 a month. I image it should take about 30 seconds of your time each month to hit the deny button for that. Aug 13 16 02:38 pm Link Fuck the retouchers. They are useless and deserve to feel bad about themselves. lol. Aug 17 16 12:53 pm Link Friend requests from retouchers are annoying spam. I find most of the requests come from Russia. i block them. Their profile vanishes within a few weeks or months. Then, they create a new profile and strike again. It's intolerable. Aug 18 16 05:21 am Link They are probably selling those photos in eastern europe thru some stock agency we have no clue about. Yeah, the retoucher scam here is really annoying. Oct 22 16 08:08 am Link aperture new york wrote: More sanely, they want the $5-$25 for retouching. It's about ten thousand times more than any sane person would pay for the copyright of a typical PP image. Oct 22 16 11:37 am Link Personally I get quite a lot of friend requests and questions from all kinds of site members, including retouchers who want to work for/with me. But I don't mind their location, nationality or race and don't rage against them. I also receive silly messages like this: "Hello, I'd really like to work with you if you could refrain from shaving or trimming the pubic area. In Paris now models with bald pubes have gone out of fashion. Let me know if this is a problem for you." (you figure...) I agree the majority of retouchers are a disgrace for that word and the only thing they do is make it worse every given day. However the multiple hateful threads which appear all the time about this won't change anything, just like the thousand threads about "should I bring an escort" or "what camera should i buy". As long as there are people who look for $5-20/pic retouching, there will be people offering it. As long as there are their clients who think that destroying an image with some superficial tricks learned from a YouTube tutorial is retouching and consider acceptable the shit they receive - there will be the ones who do it. So remove the cause and the effect will be gone. You can't remove the effect only. Also technically the site offers no feature to opt in/out separately for different types of notifications. Right now you are either subscribed for everything that happens (FR, messages, tags, lists, comments) or nothing. Obviously as long as that doesn't change it will be quite annoying to receive emails for each FR. So if you really want to help in stopping that - suggest site features in the site related forum. aperture new york wrote: I have been a stock photographer for many years, working with the biggest ones in the industry. I also own a website for selling digital content. I have never heard of such agency. Oct 22 16 01:41 pm Link anchev wrote: And how such an agency would work without an Internet presence and maintaining secrecy for years that is rather mysterious. Oct 22 16 03:57 pm Link thiswayup wrote: Someone may consider this a derogatory generalization. You have no way to know who works on what images, for what clients, who works at all and all the rest of it. In any case no retoucher is responsible for the worthlessness or worthiness of the input material he receives. You may be surprised to know that some of the top photographers' raw material is much worse than that of part-time photographers here on MM Oct 22 16 04:40 pm Link Aug 24 17 07:23 pm Link William Tam wrote: 9 retouchers in one month and growing, wow, getting saturated, don't know what to do. Aug 24 17 07:24 pm Link . Aug 25 17 11:22 am Link You seem like a great guy who has lots of skills and has lots of models and some photographers as friends. This means you are doing something right. Even though I am a total n00b, I can see why some of these people think they can help you. They might think you would be relieved if they got rid of all the vignetting in your pictures. Maybe you meant to have it there. Maybe you like it. I don't care for it in my work and use a lens correction feature in Lightroom on all my work, which takes it right out. So while lots of retouchers have also asked to be my friend, they leave me very flattering comments and say "if you ever need a retoucher..." (these tags are still there, some with hideous avatar images). Aug 25 17 04:12 pm Link |
Also as I have said in other threads - in every field there is only a minority of people who are good at what they do. And by good I don't mean popular, that's a whole other story - closely related but I won't go into it.
