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Falsely saying "worked with Vogue Italia" ~rant~
If you were shooting for Vogue Italia I somehow don't think MM would be the place to be. Feb 13 12 03:47 pm Link Feb 14 12 03:10 pm Link Thanks. I would LOVE to be featured on there, but promise i wont go round claiming i worked for vogue italia if they feature my images. Feb 14 12 04:04 pm Link Preach, brotha. Feb 14 12 04:14 pm Link An art director told me how a photographer brought in his portfolio for a showing. Unfortunately, for the photographer, he showed a shot the art director had worked on, with the REAL photographer. Lying happens... But I believe it'll bite them in the butt Feb 14 12 04:25 pm Link just came across a photo on 500px that said it was for vogue italy. i had to chuckle. Jun 30 12 08:28 am Link Neil Snape wrote: Now I am too tempted. I am going to registger and enter two photos from my very first time pressing the shudder. Jun 30 12 02:29 pm Link God people you're harshing my monkey's buzz! He has Parisian runway dreeeeams dammit!!! Jul 11 12 03:22 am Link ^^^ actually your monkey pic is better than some of the model pictures accepted there sometimes! Jul 11 12 03:41 am Link In general I feel that a large proportion of wannabe photographers make up all sorts of claims and mislead customers when trying to get work. Jul 11 12 03:47 am Link Neil Snape wrote: He is an attractive monkey... I tried to tell him he was probably too short to be agency represented, but he just threw up the "Kate Moss defense". Jul 11 12 04:17 am Link Berghammer wrote: Looks like a Golden Lion Tamarin. Jul 13 12 01:48 am Link Neil Snape wrote: I only claim what I can post proof of. NO Not just an email of something!!! I do not consider proof as an ELECTRONIC IMAGE that has a questionable source. Jul 13 12 02:00 am Link Here is what Vogue Italia's Vogue.It sight says. ""The Vogue editorial staff carefully assesses each photo. From among the photos uploaded, the ones thought most interesting are chosen for inclusion in the authors portfolio. "From among the shots published", the ones thought outstanding are chosen for inclusion in the Photo of the day and Latest pictures selected. The selection is made on both technical and more “emotional” criteria. The overall impression is considered first. Then the photo is assessed in terms of composition, crop, subject, originality, lighting, colour and ideas. What are the Latest pictures selected? This is a selection of photos that merit particular mention; it is made from photos "recently published on PhotoVogue". The photos change during the course of the day. How long will I need to wait for my photos to be approved and published in my portfolio? The editorial staff looks at each of the photos uploaded one by one, assesses their quality, and, in the event that they are considered suitable for publication, makes an initial selection of the best shots to appear in the author portfolio. Depending on the number of photos uploaded by a user, and therefore on the amount of time needed for the editorial staff to assess them, the time needed for any possible publication of a photo is a minimum of one day and a maximum of three days. So based on all of Vogue Italia's website... they are published to their Online website, that is why they attach the logo to the image they select. Yes they are not in print but they are published to the online website. From there if they are selected by the editorial staff, they "can" maybe be selected for publishment to print. Aug 17 12 05:41 pm Link models too are quite annoying when they post images on FB and claim they got published in Vogue, same goes for photographers. I really doubt the criteria with which photos are selected and by whom? I ve seen a number of photos up and since when did Vogue become a publication suitable to judge street photography etc? Now I understand how easily persuaded people are and why its called the "Bible" or whatever i was a bit hot in the start with it, but it died pretty soon The most troubling thing is how they try to convince participants to collaborate with this project Vogue does with Art+Commerce to gain publicity etc etc, when in essence is that A+C will be getting nice images for almost scraps to sell to art editors globally. You do see whats going to happen later on, with the production that takes place from test shoots etc increasing each year, magazines will be able to get material, that aspiring photographers will do anything to publish, for almost nothing. Aug 18 12 01:14 am Link KevinMcGowanPhotography wrote: Sounds uncannily similar to this story...almost identical. Interesting isn't it? Aug 19 12 10:16 am Link Hm. Maybe I should change my MM announcement to say "Four PhotoVogue pics in my top row," or something like that? Currently I just say "Four Vogue pics . . ." Aug 19 12 10:21 am Link Nyctiphaes wrote: Well the criteria are the same as any magazine, they publish what they want and in this case the photo editor explained it fairly well. I am not sure why you feel a publication has to prove its suitability to judge anything, this isn't a juried contest its a magazine and there photo editors pick what they want - just like everyone else in commercial photography. Aug 19 12 10:30 am Link Simple...YOU and I know when you are published in VOGUE, BAZAAR, ELLE, V, W, Marie Claire etc! You are commissioned for the shoot, as simple as that. Submissions don't work as they need to make sure that there aren't any styling overlaps etc. Everything is controlled by the producers at the magazine. Aug 19 12 10:37 am Link Revived again, just to remind the posters after all the time gone by: this was started as a rant against those claiming to have worked for Vogue Italia, showing accepted or not pictures with the PhotoVogue logo. PhotoVogue is still a good idea, a good deal for those in places where they would never have their work seen. Some of it is extraordinary. Some of it is just another snapshot. What better way is there to collect a million images for an archive at no cost? A win win situation. Yet false claims luring with false pretensions is really low. I will say it again, few on MM will have ever worked with Vogue Italia. Having pictures posted on PhotoVogue is NOT working with Vogue Italia but adding pictures to an image bank for Art&Commerce's commercial benefit if you choose to agree. Question of semantics of published work, is if you like, something those who believe in their work being published on a web site to be published in an electronic form, as opposed to a traditional published hard copy form. The front has changed quickly and so many people these days live in a total electronic world, yet want to claim classic publishing rights for which didn't exist. When they have virtual 3D galleries, they will be ready to claim having expositions to add to their curriculum. Aug 19 12 10:55 am Link robert zimmerman wrote: I'll take check, cash or paypal... thanks Aug 19 12 12:24 pm Link By a wild guess-timate, I'd venture on the order of 50,000 images on PhotoVogue. ca 25,000 regisered users, every other has pictures, average 4 pics per portfolio. Aug 19 12 12:45 pm Link Neil Snape wrote: A lot like models claiming to be in Playboy when in fact they were some "Cyber girl of the week" because their friends voted and re-voted in the greatest number. Aug 19 12 12:51 pm Link MKPhoto wrote: Not even close, it appears that most do not have approved images. Anyone is welcome to try however. These days they are much more picky about fashion and beauty images they approve. They listed the numbers of submission they get every day in a blog post, I don't recall the numbers but it was a very tiny amoun that get approved. Aug 19 12 12:53 pm Link AJScalzitti wrote: I went through 15 random portfolios and 7 had approved pics. I'll play the count again... Aug 19 12 12:58 pm Link It's not easy getting a shot approved by PhotoVogue. It's certainly not the same as being commissioned by Vogue Italia (which along with the French version is the best of their publications) but it's not to be sneered at - submit a shot - see if it's approved - if it is you're in Vogue on line, and they print the best submissions in the magazine. And they put their watermark on the shot. They wouldn't do that if they thought it was a pile of crap. Lighten up people. Feb 03 13 05:14 pm Link I worked in Europe. ...on an American fashion-based reality show. ...for about 60 non-stop hours. Oh yeah, I'm big in Europe. Feb 04 13 12:39 pm Link I am so used to people lying that it doesn't shock me at all. Not only in the photography world but in all aspects of life which involve selling your stuff and your image. I did some studies on Business and I couldn't believe at the time how many people actually tell things which are not true but they don't consider it as being unfair or lying but just a normal "selling yourself and your image" thing. I hear a lot people saying "it is not a lying but you are just saying what others want to hear". And in fact, if you stop to think, people spend money most on things that was created on imaginary use which people plays along than for it real use and necessity. And I guess this is why this selling, marketing and busyness stuff make me sick. And it may be the reason I don't feel comfortable when I have to "sell myself". I don't even see why people are so glad on saying thet got published. I prefer much more work on my on stuff freely than have to work for somebody worrying about others approval. BUT... when you get published it is easier sell yourself, and that is just it, about selling. Apr 27 14 01:52 am Link I have had the pleasure of having 15 images selected by vogue Italia online. 3 of them winning the "best of" and 2 winning the PIC OF THE DAY. I was contacted that the pic of the day would be published in the magazine at a later date, but that has not happened and I am not holding my breath. I have a link directly to the Photo Vogue site. So people can make up their own minds about my work there. Apr 27 14 04:44 am Link Risen Phoenix Photo wrote: I think that the OP's original post, which is no quite old, is about the fact that the website is not the same as the magazine. The problem is that I don't consider it to be false to say that you've worked with "Vogue Italia" if you've had a number of images on the website. I think that we, as a group, have to understand that there are different levels. Clearly starting at one level might lead to another ... or not. It is the same with everything. Apr 27 14 07:57 am Link Getting a photo selected by Vogue.it is great. Doesn't mean you work for them, but being on there pretty much means you are legit. Sure, you may think some images there suck, but that's your opinion. And it's also their opinion not to select your photo. Don't be bitter and don't give up. Jan 13 16 11:19 am Link Bobby Vu wrote: LOL immediately thought of you when I saw this Bobby. Jan 13 16 12:39 pm Link A self impressed mayhem photographer continually lays claim to have been shooting for Vanity Fair, Elle, Cosmo and just about all major fashion print mags "for years". There is no information forth comming about which magazine titles, issues, which pages, credit lines, or tear sheets. Hollow claims of publication are so simple to disprove. Posted work is simply not of the caliber major publishers use. Numerous generic portraits here have the unauthorized use of Vogues registered trademark, complete with fake barcodes and cover lines. Not only tacky, but quite illegal. Sadly, an additional detriment to the credibility of this site. Jan 22 16 08:07 am Link I'm not easily impressed by labels or name dropping. I look at the quality of someone's work to determine their ability. Some people feel the need to lie about their qualifications. Stretching the truth. There's nothing that you can do about it other than take it with a grain of salt. The proof is in the printing! Jan 27 16 04:13 am Link There are people will always inflate their experience, who they've worked with and the money they make. There was a photographer I tested with 25 years ago that showed a book of tears from Europe, he was eventually busted and it turned out that he was a male prostitute in Amsterdam. I guess he ended up getting what he deserved. Jan 27 16 10:06 am Link |