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Magazine reveals disparity between models+women
Azimuth Arts wrote: Jan 12 12 04:42 pm Link It's an equal rights issue you guys! We need to have the whole rainbow of eating disorders equalized. Publish them all. Jan 12 12 05:47 pm Link Fotografica Gregor wrote: exactly. Jan 12 12 06:55 pm Link Maria Michaela wrote: Cylons Jan 12 12 06:56 pm Link Nedah Oyin wrote: +1 Jan 12 12 07:02 pm Link Nedah Oyin wrote: Yup Jan 12 12 07:09 pm Link BeautybyGod wrote: Agency-signed plus models do NOT look like the obese woman in the photo you just posted. Jan 12 12 07:10 pm Link BeautybyGod wrote: ShivaKitty wrote: and there's the disparity the author was seeking but clearly misunderstood. Jan 12 12 07:45 pm Link for the record, every female model i know of is a "real" woman.... Jan 12 12 07:51 pm Link "offers shocking insight into the disparity between models and the real-life women they are purporting to represent." this is odd to me - i never thought of fashion models as representatives of the female sex....maybe representatives of the designers they are wearing but thats about it. Its not new that fashion models are tall and thin. Jan 12 12 07:57 pm Link When did the big fashion houses start giving two hoots about whether Jo Public could fit in to, or look good in, their creations? Nine times out of ten, the sheer price of the pieces makes them unattainable to the majority. Couture to me is more like this desirable but unattainable fantasy - it's an artistic expression, that I can admire but know realistically I would never be able to carry off in the real world. When it comes to ready-to-wear, I personally don't give a monkeys who is modelling what and what size they are - as long as they are HEALTHY. Really, some people are naturally 5'10 and size 2, in the same way some people are naturally 5'10 and size 12. A lot of the time, a size 12 model may look very different to a size 12 woman on the street - largely due to height. You're never going to get a true representation of the range of sizes, shapes and proportions out there in the real world, so the modelling industry has gone with what seems to flatter the clothes the most, and stuck with them. Jan 13 12 03:19 am Link Well of course we are all fat. I'm up to XXXXXXXXL, because my shirts are made in china where their body types are XXXXXXXS. Thank christ for globalisation and cheap arsed labour, different global dress sizes that have to go through three different interpretations, the third party importation process and on line retailers who suck it all up. Government studies clearly indicate we are fat. Jan 13 12 05:41 am Link I'm sorry, if Fox said the sun rises in the east today, I'd look to the west. I couldn't get past this silliness: "The magazine reveals that some of today’s plus size models are wearing the same size as models Christie Brinkley, Paulina Porizkova and Cindy Crawford at the height of their fame in the 1990s. Zharkova, 28, wears a size 14."  Paulina Porizkova, SI Swimsuit Cover (Paulina would clearly be a plus size model today!) Paulina is model thin, even today. She might have been listed as a size 6 (US) when she modeled, but that was because they changed US sizes sometime in the 90's and a size 6 became a size 2 today and a size 8 became a size 4 (European sizes have never changed, I don't believe). While both Cindy and Christie were known for being a little bigger (listed as size 8 back then), they would be no larger than a size 4 (US) today. This whole story is a bunch of poorly researched hooey. John -- John Fisher 900 West Avenue, Suite 633 Miami Beach, Florida 33139 305 534-9322 http://www.johnfisher.com Jan 13 12 07:10 am Link hahaha... real women are 15% fatter you have to leave your big cities to see this... GO TO THE AMERICAN MIDWEST, I urge you all, thats where the stereotypical cows are in abundance you won't see them in the heavily filmed areas of the US... LA and NYC... they are in the midwestern united states in great abundance Jan 13 12 07:31 am Link Fotografica Gregor wrote: not necessarily. the average dutch woman for instance has a size 12. not cause she's fat, but because the dutch people are among the tallest in the world, so a size 12 just looks like a normal size there. Jan 14 12 11:23 am Link I don't see how they can say that there's a disparity between models and women. Models come in sizes 0,2,4,6,8,10,12,14, and 16. It simply depends on what kind of genre one is referring to when using the word, "model." Gabby Jan 14 12 01:19 pm Link R A V E N D R I V E wrote: Moo. Jan 14 12 02:20 pm Link I def. agree, with my fine art background I would say this rings of a rubenesque Romantic era painting, and the image is Reilly beautiful, but I wouldn't want to see her on the runway. I think the realm of model is opening up currently yet retaining the features sought out in models that give it the power it holds in the modern world and the field of design. ShivaKitty wrote: Jan 15 12 04:50 pm Link Nedah Oyin wrote: you made me giggle. Jan 15 12 04:57 pm Link To Brightonn -- Wow, I just visited that link. Some of those models on it are the most beautiful women in the world! Gabby Jan 15 12 04:58 pm Link this is a tired old subject. people are fat these days. picking on coat hanger models makes them feel better. one thing that these dummies don't seem to realize is that it is not about the models in the first place. it is about design. bigger models draw attention away from the design to the model herself. Jan 15 12 05:07 pm Link I hated that editorial. I think that all body shapes should be appreciated, and that editorial just didn't do it. The plus model was shown smiling, happy, engaged with the camera; we never even saw the straight size model's face. I don't think she was even credited alongside the plus model. I'd love to see all body sizes treated equally by all people...so far it just doesn't seem to be happening. I like this better: http://a3.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos- … 0070_n.jpg Jan 15 12 05:35 pm Link Ha... What a BS article. The "big" model in the shoot is fat. That's the bottom line. No wonder magazines didn't want to publish it. And to claim that the former supermodels were as overweight as the model in the editorial is either hallucinatory or downright deceitful. Fashion is aspirational. Women don't aspire to be as overweight as the model in those images. That's why those "big" models don't sell. Jan 15 12 05:55 pm Link "they changed US sizes sometime in the 90's" Going by sizes is silly for this reason. You'd really have to go by all the measurements and weights. Not only do sizes change, but so do styles, if you know any fashion history this is obvious. What is considered difficult to attain is what becomes desirable. I do feel i have to say though that some of the insults to larger size women here is appalling. It's no different than the people calling the thin models anorexic. All women are real women. Jan 15 12 06:07 pm Link Maria Michaela wrote: Hmm - I would be that a size 12 in Holland is not the same as a US Size 12 - interestingly, back in the late 80s, sizes in the US got "super-sized" - what was a 10-12 in Marilyn Monroe's day is labeled as a 7-8 in the US now. Jan 15 12 06:17 pm Link Fotografica Gregor wrote: I've heard people mention that... that in the clothes, a model who is a 12 in holland is like an 8-10 in the US. In modelling terms however, a 12 is always a 12. Jan 16 12 12:45 am Link moving pictures wrote: it was published. in plus model magazine, a magazine featuring plus size models. other magazines didn't publish it because it was already published. Jan 16 12 12:48 am Link moving pictures wrote: I thought she looked toned and healthy, and I'm jealous of her flexibility. (I aspire to be as flexible as her? There's more to people than their waist measurement.) Jan 16 12 09:57 am Link IMO, I think the average size woman would be between both of them.. the one seems a little heavier, and the other one is smaller.. Jan 16 12 10:01 am Link Plus llama Magazine is garbage, isn't it? Apr 12 12 04:31 pm Link Disparity between models and women? Here I thought I was both at the same time. Apr 12 12 05:14 pm Link V Laroche wrote: IMPOSSIBLE Apr 12 12 05:24 pm Link Nedah Oyin wrote: +1 Apr 12 12 06:09 pm Link Article actually has a good point in it. THe models you see in pictures aren't strictly speaking, real women. They will typically have been digitally altered, substantially. A trend has emerged, in the last ten years, of making models slimmer and longer-legged in post production. The images are thus of women who don't really exist in the form portrayed. The pictures are not of real women. Before this became commonplace, the models may have been the same size, but the imagery often included women who were larger than those portrayed in the fashion imagery of today. Sure, there were slimmer women in fashion imagery too. But today we don't have that diversity. The larger women are slimmed in post production. [img]http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_94wGm5Prdv0/S3hXkojOjRI/AAAAAAAAGdM/r_SHLThb_EY/s400/Cindy Crawford by Helmut Newton.jpg[/img]  v  [img]http://prettyandpoor.com/media/Thin_model.png[/img] Apr 12 12 06:59 pm Link Joshua Sheldon wrote: So models are imaginary women? How about "the average woman?" Here's a clue people- some people are thin, but they're still REAL people. Apr 12 12 08:50 pm Link Not real women....? Cylons ??!! I knew it!! Apr 12 12 09:01 pm Link Why are people attacking models? We're just add real as anyone else. While I may not be a size 1, I do know plenty of women who are and happen to be extremely healthy. Look at Kelli for instance, she I'd definitely below BMI "standards" but is perfectly healthy, way healthier than me anyways. American women have been so brain washed into believing that any woman who is tall and thin is anorexic, and because of that, they get pissed off and call every tall and thin model in a magazine anorexic. Not only that, but people are taking the "big and beautiful" thing way too far. I don't care what size you are , you should absolutely love your body, but when you become so big that you are unhealthy and need a motorized wheel chair to get around, you need to wake up. As long as you are healthy you should be able to take pride in the way you look. Apr 12 12 09:40 pm Link There are physical criteria for anorexia? That sounds stupid and wrong. Apr 12 12 09:43 pm Link I'm not even going to try and edit that, stupid phone. Apr 12 12 09:45 pm Link First thing I noticed was that the supposedly anorexic thin lady in the NSFW picture has a body nearly identical to mine in thinness... ... and I'm perfectly healthy. Just can't really skip meals. Apr 12 12 09:54 pm Link |
