Forums > Photography Talk > Terry Richardson - thoughts?

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Solas

Posts: 10390

Toronto, Ontario, Canada

MC Photo wrote:
There is at least one photographer here who works as a creative director and hired him for shoots. He said that Terry has the best rapport with his subjects compared to any photographer he's ever seen shoot.

Specifics? What does he do?

May 12 12 01:34 pm Link

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DevilMayCare Photo

Posts: 431

Edmonton, Alberta, Canada

His style is distinctive, but the work doesn't speak to me.

May 12 12 01:55 pm Link

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You Can Call Me Pierre

Posts: 800

Loma Linda, California, US

Terry's equipment is a Nikon D3 something, 50mm f/1.4D with SB-800 and battery pack on Mini-CB bracket, in TTL.
Sometimes a Panasonic GF-1 too but I am not sure with pop-up or hotshoe flash.
I envy his model rapport.
big_smile

May 12 12 09:41 pm Link

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Wilde Vision

Posts: 115

Portland, Oregon, US

I think his Fashion Work is certainly competent, but it's his personal work that most likely is his claim to fame and that's the stuff that people will remember.

-JULIAN

May 12 12 09:50 pm Link

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Julian W I L D E

Posts: 1831

Portland, Oregon, US

Even though his Fashion Stuff is something that no doubt at least 100 photogs could do without even getting out of bed... his personal work has the stamp of erotic genius.  And this is where he really shines... and although it's not MY brand of vodka, I'm sure he is an inspiration for a great many.

-JULIAN

May 12 12 09:54 pm Link

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New Art Photo

Posts: 701

Los Angeles, California, US

He apparently likes to sexually humiliate young models in the middle of photo sessions ( while his crew cheers him on. )
He may be a good photographer--  but he's totally abusing his power.

May 12 12 09:55 pm Link

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Lauren A Farrington

Posts: 999

Sunderland, Massachusetts, US

Mike Stewart 247 Foto wrote:
All the predatory allegations about him are exactly that... allegations. Me, I don't hear one side of a story and let my jury out.

So...you think he would come out and tell people, when asked, that he sexually harassed models, some of which were underage?
That's the problem with illegal activities; people won't admit to doing them if it means they'll get in trouble/look like an asshole. Therefore, it always remains "one-sided".

May 12 12 09:58 pm Link

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Mike Stewart 247 Foto

Posts: 287

Houston, Texas, US

Lauren A Farrington wrote:

So...you think he would come out and tell people, when asked, that he sexually harassed models, some of which were underage?
That's the problem with illegal activities; people won't admit to doing them if it means they'll get in trouble/look like an asshole. Therefore, it always remains "one-sided".

My point is, if you weren't there, then you don't know what happened.

Why didn't these models go to the police and file a report? Why tell a reporter? Why hasn't Terry been questioned or arrested even once? Why do so many mainstream celebrities - politicians, actors, musicians, et al - love to work with him if he's such a horrible human being?

Sex sells and he knows it. Everyone knows it. His images push the envelope. He's a world famous photographer. Sex has been "a kind of obsession" for him before... same as most other people.

99% of model's around the world would very enthusiastically agree to a shoot with Terry Richardson. Some models would presume that if they f*** his brains out, they'll get somewhere. What % of them would be looking for revenge if Terry didn't get them another gig or take their calls?

If TR is actually doing the things a few model's have famously reported, then yes, he's a gigantic piece of shit who deserves to lose his career & worse. But no one imo should let their jury out based on allegations from people they don't know.

May 12 12 10:47 pm Link

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Laubenheimer

Posts: 9317

New York, New York, US

maybe mr. richardson should do a shoot with mr. travolta.

May 13 12 08:39 am Link

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Retro Dolly Photography

Posts: 19

Dublin, Dublin, Ireland

TR is someone who I've been paying attention to for the last couple of years, both his personal and professional work. I think he's an amazing photographer and I wouldn't hesitate to put him on a list of people who inspire me. Like others have said, have the police ever acted on any of the allegations made against him? Have they ever been informed? If he is ever proven to abuse models in such a way then yes, he is creep. If not, then well done Terry, you're living the dream!

May 13 12 09:14 am Link

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Le Beck Photography

Posts: 4114

Los Angeles, California, US

Andrew Attah wrote:

What exactly makes him a pervert?  I've heard some stories but I've only ever heard one side of the argument/they seem to be from aspiring models that never made it.

What is it about his photographic process that makes him "low talent"?  Correct me if I'm wrong but his images are exposed perfectly, well composed, have a great energy about them, do exactly what they're supposed to do and work great in their context.  What is it I am missing?

Not just stories, but photographs of models giving him a blow job on set. http://27.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_l2wtx … o1_500.jpg At least he seems to be up front about it. The one model I know who worked with him wasn't harassed, but she said he was creepy. She's a big girl, if he'd tried something he would have qualified for the Vienna Boys choir soon after.

May 13 12 09:35 am Link

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ToddRock

Posts: 79

Atlanta, Georgia, US

I never heard of him until this thread.  My first impression after some reading and looking at some photos is that is truly doesn't give a fuck what anyone thinks.  There is a certain quality to this 'vibe' that the entertainment industry is attracted to.  His photos have a style, I think he could take a decent(peer reviewed) photo from a technical point of view if he wanted to, but that is obviously not his goal to compete on some level of photographic credibility scale.  Some of the photos appear to be more like some friend of the model just appeared to be there with a camera.  This in some ways is his style.....  sort of an orchestrated and posed paparazzi vibe, real life essence, non pretentious overproduced lighting and post.  Very raw.  A lot of people can relate to that under produced look and that is his basic appeal.  Brittany Spears techincally sucks compared to Christina, but the the general public often compared the two for years as to who was better.  Style and taste are subjective, and a lot of people in the industry love creating drama.  Terry has a 'story', there are tons of available photogs that could shoot better pics technically, but they do not have the swagger to deal with a lot of artists.  Swagger counts in the business.  A lot of people like an artist, model, photog, singer, writer, producer etc that has a story.  Very often the story does not have to be positive.

May 13 12 09:50 am Link

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New Art Photo

Posts: 701

Los Angeles, California, US

Not just stories, but photographs of models giving him a blow job on set. http://27.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_l2wtx … o1_500.jpg


Pure Class............sad

May 13 12 09:52 am Link

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Paul Best

Posts: 1302

Toronto, Ontario, Canada

girls will blow him if it would get their photo in a magazine .. not everybody is exploited . just regretful !! 

casting couches
movie producers
most men in a powerful preceived position will use it to get what they want:money , sex , and if they are perverts then they will pevert .

how do girls get into music video ? its a creepy bussiness , i dont see how high fashion is any different . people are people . maybe this is the norm  and if he was screwing boys would the models even care ?

May 13 12 10:14 am Link

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Laubenheimer

Posts: 9317

New York, New York, US

New Art Photo wrote:
Not just stories, but photographs of models giving him a blow job on set. http://27.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_l2wtx … o1_500.jpg


Pure Class............sad

linky no worky. sad

May 13 12 10:27 am Link

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JAE

Posts: 2207

West Chester, Pennsylvania, US

Mark Laubenheimer wrote:

linky no worky. sad

The correct link is 2 posts above that post.

May 13 12 10:31 am Link

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Laubenheimer

Posts: 9317

New York, New York, US

JAE Photography PA wrote:

The correct link is 2 posts above that post.

wow. it sure is.

May 13 12 10:38 am Link

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Jim McSmith

Posts: 794

Edinburgh, Scotland, United Kingdom

If you want great then check out Lucien Clergue.

May 13 12 11:02 am Link

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Jim McSmith

Posts: 794

Edinburgh, Scotland, United Kingdom

paul best  wrote:
girls will blow him if it would get their photo in a magazine .. not everybody is exploited . just regretful !! 

casting couches
movie producers
most men in a powerful preceived position will use it to get what they want:money , sex , and if they are perverts then they will pevert .

how do girls get into music video ? its a creepy bussiness , i dont see how high fashion is any different . people are people . maybe this is the norm  and if he was screwing boys would the models even care ?

What if you couldn't get it up. You'de miss out on a blowjob.

May 13 12 11:03 am Link

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AMCphotography

Posts: 439

Los Angeles, California, US

There are far more talented photographers out there and yet he seems to get to work with everyone who's anyone.

May 13 12 11:16 am Link

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Paul Brecht

Posts: 12232

Colton, California, US

AMCphotography wrote:
There are far more talented photographers out there and yet he seems to get to work with everyone who's anyone.

A good part of it is that he was born into he industry. His dad was a famous fashion photographer.

Google this:

lope navo meat market uncle terry richardson

look at the 1st result. (can't link because it could be considered porn)  make sure to scroll all the way down.

May 13 12 11:40 am Link

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Blue Rose Photo

Posts: 264

Minneapolis, Minnesota, US

Paul Brecht wrote:

A good part of it is that he was born into he industry. His dad was a famous fashion photographer.

Google this:

lope navo meat market uncle terry richardson

look at the 1st result. (can't link because it could be considered porn)  make sure to scroll all the way down.

I think he's talented but its this crap that makes me not like him.

May 13 12 06:22 pm Link

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Alexis_Kennedy

Posts: 1308

Portland, Oregon, US

Though I certainly envy his success the work itself does absolutely nothing for me on an emotional level.

In fact, 99.999% of his work I can't remember about five minutes after I look at it.

May 13 12 07:00 pm Link

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Andrew Iverson Media

Posts: 570

River Falls, Wisconsin, US

Andrew Attah wrote:
I'm fairly sure he doesn't use a ring flash.  Bracketed Speedlite is what I believe is his weapon.

Ah, forget where i thought i read that, could have sworn it's what it said, but i could be wrong.

May 13 12 11:30 pm Link

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MC Photo

Posts: 4144

New York, New York, US

AVD AlphaDuctions wrote:

go on the wayback machine and look what used to be on his own website ffs.  this is not being judgemental lol. inability to find stuff that is so readily available really looks like trolling.  go ahead and bet. not wasting any more time on this.

You're as naive as it gets if you're citing a website, a marketing tool, for facts.

It's a shame my friend Wendy isn't here to give her speech on PR. In short, she says that there is not a single thing in any modern media that is their unless someone has paid a PR person to put it there.

You know that most of the leaked celebrity sex tapes are not accidental leaks, right? Some are, but there are a lot that are calculated moves.

I'm not making a statement on what Terry has or hasn't done. I'm saying that all of the people here are basing their opinions on non-verifiable facts.

They're also saying that he's a master of "the game" in an industry that sells youth and sex. It's very believable that he's in the position to do the things that he's accused of, but if he's really a master marketer, than he's controlling everything. You have no way to know which accusations are real and which accusations are solely for PR, either for him or the person making them.

You have no idea if the model wanted to sleep with him and he refused and she made up te story out of spite.

Having a fully formed opinion based on facts that you can't verify yourself in an industry and media that are not based in truth is naive.

If you were citing 60 Minutes, or the NY Times, a brand that is based in accuracy of fact and risks their reputation with every story, or the legal system, with a trial, which still doesn't guarantee fact, but is intended to do everything it can to get at it, then you may have something.

I can tell you that my first hand and second hand experiences with him don't match my third hand experiences with him at all.

So what do you think of Lady Gaga? Not artistically or as a person, but she clearly has a friendship with him and has worked with him more than once and has had him shoot several of her shows. Do you think she's getting his "monster cock" jammed in her face and getting raped by him while an assistant shoots it and gives her a wet nap to clean up with after? Did she have him fly to Korea to shoot her show there because she'd always wanted to get raped in Korea?

Anything is possible, including things worse than anyone has imagined, but your judgments are not based on fact, they are based on hearsay, and you don't seem to be aware of the difference. That's naive.

May 14 12 04:00 am Link

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Benjamin Kanarek

Posts: 3092

Paris, Île-de-France, France

A Marketing genius, whom when push comes to shove can blow most of us out of the water technically. But he choses what he has chosen for the reasons that keep his name in the market place.

May 14 12 02:36 pm Link

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Laubenheimer

Posts: 9317

New York, New York, US

Benjamin Kanarek wrote:
A Marketing genius, whom when push comes to shove can blow most of us out of the water technically. But he choses what he has chosen for the reasons that keep his name in the market place.

technically, anybody can play the piano....but it takes an artist with feeling to make it something more than a typewriter.

May 14 12 02:43 pm Link

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KFM Designs

Posts: 685

Augusta, Missouri, US

HE signs the back of his checks, good to go.

May 14 12 02:44 pm Link

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Shot By Adam

Posts: 8098

Las Vegas, Nevada, US

Andrew Attah wrote:
What exactly makes him a pervert?  I've heard some stories but I've only ever heard one side of the argument/they seem to be from aspiring models that never made it.

He has a very long history of getting naked on the set, playing with himself on the set, etc., etc., etc.

What is it about his photographic process that makes him "low talent"?  Correct me if I'm wrong but his images are exposed perfectly, well composed, have a great energy about them, do exactly what they're supposed to do and work great in their context.  What is it I am missing?

Actually, many of the photos I've seen of his were composed poorly, exposed poorly, and looked like high-school level vacation snapshots, not professional work. My bet is, if you took his name off of his photos and posted many of his average shots in the Critique section, most decent photographers would rip his images to shreds. I, personally, do not find him a talented photographer even on a good day.

That said, anyone who is of average competence in their craft and is able to get away with the lewd stunts he can and still receive such public praise means he's a great marketer and, in that respect, I believe he deserves some respect. No doubt about that.

May 14 12 03:41 pm Link

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Jerry Bennett

Posts: 2223

Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, US

Paul Brecht wrote:

A good part of it is that he was born into he industry. His dad was a famous fashion photographer.

Google this:

lope navo meat market uncle terry richardson

look at the 1st result. (can't link because it could be considered porn)  make sure to scroll all the way down.

Thanks for that link. Yikes!

May 14 12 05:40 pm Link

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ddtphoto

Posts: 2590

Chicago, Illinois, US

Personally I don't think he's very skilled photographically but in terms of business and marketing he's to be envied.

I've never looked at an image of his and thought, "Wow, that's an amazing image." But every time I look at an image of his I say, "That looks like a Terry Richardson image."

Really, the later is what it's all about.

May 14 12 05:45 pm Link

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ddtphoto

Posts: 2590

Chicago, Illinois, US

Benjamin Kanarek wrote:
A Marketing genius, whom when push comes to shove can blow most of us out of the water technically.

Is that right? I've always wondered if he knows the rules he's breaking. I've never seen anything of his that was technical in any way.

May 14 12 05:49 pm Link

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DAVfoto

Posts: 2324

New York, New York, US

im curious to know which photographer on here turned CD hired him for a shoot, as my AD's hate his guts and would rather off themselves then hire him.

May 14 12 10:04 pm Link

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Darin B

Posts: 998

San Diego, California, US

I envy his apparent joie de vive and confidence. He is probably living his life exactly the way he wants to.

Oh, and skimming his diaries gives me a bonner.

D

May 15 12 10:11 am Link

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Laubenheimer

Posts: 9317

New York, New York, US

i wonder if anyone thinks posting in a thread about terry richardson is marketing genius?

May 15 12 11:14 am Link

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Mike Adams Photos

Posts: 1217

Cleveland, Ohio, US

Personally, I don't know him, nor have researched him.

He does seem to "not give a f*ck" at the least, and that I can respect.

May 15 12 11:32 am Link

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DevotedCreatives Studio

Posts: 691

London, England, United Kingdom

I think a lot of people are envious of his access.
I don't know how he did it, but fairplay.

In terms of photography (the study of light) he's masterfully consistent so unless your port can match that level of consistency I'd STFU.

May 15 12 01:42 pm Link

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Laubenheimer

Posts: 9317

New York, New York, US

Black Technicolor Art wrote:
I think a lot of people are envious of his access.
I don't know how he did it, but fairplay.

In terms of photography (the study of light) he's masterfully consistent so unless your port can match that level of consistency I'd STFU.

are you saying he's good at photography or just consistent? hmm

May 15 12 02:10 pm Link

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Mike Stewart 247 Foto

Posts: 287

Houston, Texas, US

Jim McLintock wrote:
If you want great then check out Lucien Clergue.

A good example of how subjective opinions are. Lucien is a legend, but I never liked his modeling photography style; it has no soul imo. It's the perfect human body shot almost exclusively as landscape. Every Lucien model shot is carefully and methodically planned, posed, and lit. Completely opposite of what Terry Richardson is doing with his modeling work - spontaneous, in the moment, in your face, all attitude & emotion.

To me, Richardson's style is a direct reflection of the blurred line between mainstream entertainment and porn in the last 20+ years. The porn industry generates more revenue than TV and movies combined. Terry's personal style is provocative to the point where opinions are either love it or hate it... very little gray area.

I like Mark Laubenheimer's model photography better than Lucien's. Technically they are even imo... both are masters of using light, and both have a distinct style. Mark's work speaks to me more because we see the soul in his subjects... we see their face in almost every shot.

Tony Yang is the best model photographer out there imo. His portfolio is like a Hendrix solo.

May 15 12 07:15 pm Link

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DevotedCreatives Studio

Posts: 691

London, England, United Kingdom

Mark Laubenheimer wrote:

are you saying he's good at photography or just consistent? hmm

GOOD Photography on a purely technical basis is about mastering and controlling light. If you can do that consistently - it shows skill and knowledge of a high standard. I don't much like his photography content, but but his photography skill isn't good, its GREAT, he's one of the most consistent people out here.

May 16 12 01:50 am Link