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I see both sides of it. Which is why I meet with models first so they can see who I am, feel comfortable and then I let them know the escort can drop them off and they can call every so often and check in. Escorts are distracting, could steal something, could be a jealous BF or wanna be director. But I do see it from the other side also. I have a model that I'm very good friends with, and she says she normally brings an escort to her other shoots (except me) and honestly here in Vegas and due to her past experience she has told me about I don't blame her. But still I generally have a no escort policy unless the escort wants to take me out to dinner and get to know me. That happened once and it was fine and he was actually helpful during the shoot. Feb 07 14 07:20 pm Link TRI Terrence Ricci Inc wrote: And THAT is one of many models' sticky points. Feb 07 14 07:21 pm Link Steamy Imagry wrote: You should probably check with your insurance company to see whether having random people work on your set will affect your coverage. Feb 07 14 07:53 pm Link TFP is pretty much a Whatever agreement... But I have seen models bring in guys that look like they need meth and heroin as insentive, and My camera gear is worth a lot, so I always warm a model that her choice of "escort" may mean the cancelling of the shoot without notice. I would rather shoot nothing than shoot with a dangerous pain in the ass in the room. If it's a paying GIG, THE "ESCORT" MUST SIT OUTSIDE. It;s simply too easy for a stranger in MY studio to screw up the energy. If the "model" has a problem with that, then here;s $10 for the gas money home... No hard feeling, but Go Home!! If I pay for the Job I make the Rules period... If an escort has to SIT IN on the shoot right there over my shoulder, then it is no longer MY shoot, it is HIS shoot and he MUST pay for MY Time!! It IS Our JObs as professionals to teach the young inexperienced models common professional practice of this industry. And as I stated, I'd rather shoot nothing or divert my time to editing photo from last weeks shoots, than to put up with some hassle from some newby making up their own rules and waiting for YOU dummies to "Fall In Line" Anything less than this understanding is unacceptable, and you should have the balls and the means to end a pain in the ass shoot abruptly and professionally and shoot a flower vase or whatever is not a hassle. On the other Hand, 70% of the time I've had a good model show up with a pleasant escort and everything go well and fun and good pics etc... But again if it's a PAID shoot, the guy or girl has to sit outside! They can hear any problems, and yet not interfere with creativity and good workflow. Just my 2 cents worth. Feb 07 14 08:09 pm Link I have video taped my last 2 shoots. One of the models noticed the camera and asked why its on. I said I film my shoots now so everything is one the record. She was really offended. Of course, this was the model who threw a fit about bringing an escort to the shoot. Go figure. Protection goes both ways. Feb 07 14 08:52 pm Link I've had good and bad, the last one was going crazy with the phone pics, a bit of a PITA. I've even had some very professional models have someone drop them off and pick them up later. With the way the world is today, I can't blame someone for erring on the safe side. It only takes one evil schmuck to ruin ones life, or take it, it has happened but is much rarer than getting struck by lightening. Feb 07 14 09:09 pm Link Katsung wrote: It's always nice to let someone know they are being recorded. Hopefully you didn't also record sound? Feb 07 14 09:10 pm Link I have no problem with chaperones normally I a model starting out likes to now she's safe. So as I have had some mums onsite and I find they being their can help the flow and mood so don't mind. I did have one time when the father came. I accepted that it was the model that sent him away. Because I didn't kick up a fuss the model and father were both happy. I do understand if you've got a lot of extras like mua stylists and wardrobe but I am a fun shooter then. Just after outstanding shots I've just sent a email to a model I worked with last year asking about her mother as I found her a great assistant so think how you can change things. The mother enjoys her daughter having her photograph taken so wants the best for her. I'm interested in taking the shot so can explain to them both. Then get two happy people why simple for allowing the model to be chaperoned. It doesn't both me the model is just having her picture taken Feb 09 14 01:28 am Link Click Click Click wrote: An escort brings another point of failure to the shoot, meaning that if they decide not to attend, neither will the model. Feb 09 14 06:50 am Link I have to say i have read a couple of these threads on Escorts and i have mixed feelings about it, truly the way i see it is there has to be an understanding from jump, A: He's not a BF, EXBF, or some guy that has been in the friend zone and watches you like your a pervert, if he's just some hired dude that will stay completely out my way then thats cool but I'm not giving him a dime out my pocket. B: The escort can't be there taking phone pics especially if i am the one paying to have the damn shots in the first place, i think us as photographers have to cover ourselves in every possible NonDisclosure forms and Releases to be signed by the escort as well making him liable to be punished for taking "hotshots" while on set knowing he's not supposed too. As a photographer and a professional in my work ethic i know what i won't do i know what i have to do but i don't expect some new random model to know those things based off a few words i typed about myself here on a website so i can say i am understanding of female models protecting themselves, as a father of a little girl i can say i get it. Feb 28 14 07:46 pm Link Click Click Click wrote: I no longer accept escorts because ... Feb 28 14 08:37 pm Link Nope. Feb 28 14 08:40 pm Link I've had a couple shoots with male escorts. The models totally froze up. All pics were thrown away. There was one model on here coming to shoot with me with an escort from Georgia. Fortunately my mother became ill and I had to go to Colorado. They went to Florida and robbed and murdered a photographer there. Lucky for me my mom got sick. Other than that no problems with escorts. Feb 28 14 08:53 pm Link The only time I have allowed escorts is if the escort is not in the room while shooting. Apr 13 14 10:22 pm Link Apr 13 14 11:43 pm Link Thread started - Dec 05 12 08:52 am Apr 14 14 12:00 am Link I allow escorts they don't bother me Apr 14 14 05:11 am Link Drew Smith Photography wrote: Why don't people search? If only people would search, there are already 1000 topics on this subject, why do we need a thread? Apr 14 14 05:16 am Link J O H N A L L A N wrote: My sentiments exactly. Pros haven't needed escorts since their beginning days as a model, IF then. Newbies that are still wet behind the ears do. Apr 14 14 05:31 am Link CHAD ALAN wrote: Depending on location, you may be violating state/federal laws by not telling them... Generally you don't need permission, but they do need to be informed. Apr 14 14 10:53 am Link I just wanted to chime in here that I always bring an escort with me to shoots as one of the other people here pointed out, that I'm not walking into something unexpected. Some of my work is of the fetish variety and I can get into some rather vulnerable positions. The decision whether my escort stays or leaves is always left to the discretion of the photographer and if the photographer prefers to shoot alone so neither he or I are distracted that fine, my escort leaves and returns when I call and tell him I'm done working. To the contrary he has stayed and assisted me with wardrobe changes to keep a shoot flowing and has assisted photographers in positioning me when I'm unable to do that myself. Honestly, I tend to shy away from photographers who won't even let my escort bring me in to assure that the situation is what it's supposed to be. Apr 15 14 12:15 pm Link I'm fine with models bringing a friend or somebody to help with makeup/hair (if I'm not arranging for that myself) But I had one bad experience with an escort of the boyfriend variety and don't wish to waste my time with that again. Ruined a shoot with what could have been a lovely model, but he had her on edge the whole time. I understand as a male photographer doing quite a bit of nude work that this will limit my choices for trade shoots, don't really care. I'm sure there are plenty of boyfriends/husbands who will sit quietly and let us work, don't really care. They can find a platonic friend to come along with a book or cell phone if an escort is mandatory...or they can find a photographer who doesn't mind a boyfriend coming along  Apr 15 14 02:19 pm Link Drew Smith Photography wrote: Apr 15 14 02:25 pm Link Katsung wrote: CHAD ALAN wrote: I hope so too. Apr 15 14 04:32 pm Link Video is part of my media release. Yes the model signs. Think about this: I don't want an "un-known" escort to recognize my car. I don't want an "un-known" escort to see my photographic set up and method. I don't want an "un-known" escort to comment about my behavior to a Judge. I don't want an "un-known" escort to influence my shoot. I don't want an "un-known" escort to see my "pawn worthy" equipment. I don't want an "un-known" escort to open a secure hotel or studio door. I don't want an "un-known" escort to bring a weapon if he/she wants. I don't want an "un-known" escort, without release from liability, to be in an area that I control. I do not wish to be "Out Numbered" at my own damned shoot. I could give a damn what makes a model comfortable at a shoot with a photographer that she did not investigate. Only a fool would! I have multiple portfolios online, start your investigations there! I can go on and on, but why bother. You just don't bring friends to work with you. It is strictly UN-PROFESSIONAL. Do your research and leave your friends at home. Apr 16 14 03:53 pm Link Hi, Now that we are almost TWO YEARS past my initial post. I would like to follow up., I read a few posts and appreciated the input, two years ago, but have not read all 4 pages of this. I have shot with 8 models off of this site since then, 6 of them hired. Not one has had an escort. I had one flake and only one that did not have the experience she claimed to have. All were great learning experiences. The hired models with tons of experience made for some great shoots, I highly recommend seeking out the experienced professionals if you are just starting out. My advice to me two years ago would have been avoid the models with escorts. I had some pics from my fist shoot in an exhibit earlier this year, one was even a gallery pic by a local critic. http://www.imagecityphotographygallery. … -Picks.htm Happy ending. Apr 22 14 11:51 am Link |
