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I have been in email contact with a bride who seems just a little wacky. She started off by stating that she had talked to two other makeup artists in the area and they had given her cheaper prices. I'm not making that much off of this deal since only 3 people are getting makeup done but around 8 are having hair done with my friend who I referred. I have a standard contract I use, which I was editing with her info and I asked her for some additional info and she then emailed me back with a strict deadline for the contract and then tells me that she needs to have an attorney look it over. WTF? She is the one that asked for it also? I'm seriously afraid if anything goes wrong on the wedding day that she might sue me. She doesn't even want a trial run! Should I back out of this? Jan 24 13 02:09 pm Link Go with your gut. Jan 24 13 02:13 pm Link hs photography wrote: My gut tells me her "husbands attorney" is going to sue me when her makeup and hair isn't the way she wanted even though she doesn't want a trial. Jan 24 13 02:14 pm Link ahhhhhh bride-zilla, hint....why I prefer not to do weddings......$$$$ is good but the headaches and the black-balling if it gets fouled up by something going array in the photography side....jmo, good luck.........if she needs her lawyer to look at a basic contract....then she has a lot of money to throw around and should be able to pay your rate if she wants you as the MUA. Jan 24 13 02:17 pm Link Politely decline the booking. Don't refer anyone. Then ruuuuuun awaaaaay. I think we all get caught up from time to time in "can't say no" and "customer is always right". We have as much right to turn DOWN a job as the Customer has to book us in the first place..... Jan 24 13 02:19 pm Link Run, don't walk. Jan 24 13 02:20 pm Link Frank McDonough wrote: I'm running as we speak! lol Jan 24 13 02:21 pm Link in this thread https://www.modelmayhem.com/po.php?thread_id=852992 Makeup4art expressed how she handles her customers that are rude. She fires them! LOL There will be no love lost and you will continue to gain business. People love to throw the word lawyer around to scare other people. In the past I would say "Great, so is my sister and my brother. Let me know when your lawyer is available and mines will be as well". Jan 24 13 02:21 pm Link Bloom Makeup Artistry wrote: There you have it. That was easy. Jan 24 13 02:22 pm Link I don't even know what to say to her. She is one of those really intimidating people. I'm used to the happy, exciting bride. Not the bridezilla bride who wants to sue me! lol Jan 24 13 02:22 pm Link Bloom Makeup Artistry wrote: My oversized gut has been wrong before but not often. If it says run, I run. Jan 24 13 02:23 pm Link Bloom Makeup Artistry wrote: Something has come up and I won't be able to do your wedding afterall. Jan 24 13 02:26 pm Link Bloom Makeup Artistry wrote: If that's the case, and you're already intimidated, you'll probably be so uptight during the session, that you very well may do less than a perfect job. Then what? I think some pressure and nervousness can be a good thing, but unless something changes for the better, this doesn't sound like the makings of a good thing to me. Jan 24 13 02:27 pm Link I feel bad for my friend who I referred to do the hair. I forwarded her the emails and I am giving her the choice to work with her if she wants to on her own. I had already told the bride earlier that she was an independent contractor so she doesn't work for me I just referred her. Jan 24 13 02:27 pm Link Rik Austin wrote: and giving you a bad name around the area....making it hard to get new clients Jan 24 13 02:27 pm Link hs photography wrote: Yeah, I honestly couldn't do it. I need my steady hands I would totally be shaking. Jan 24 13 02:29 pm Link The thing I am afraid of when backing out is that she is going to bad mouth me anyways. Her wedding is later in the year so she has plenty of time to book someone else but I still hate the thought of her posting a negative review anywhere. Jan 24 13 02:31 pm Link Bloom Makeup Artistry wrote: There is a chance that you're going to be bad mouthed anyway. If you're so stressed that you do a bad job, she very well might spread that around too. The upside is, you may do just fine. Again, go with your gut. Jan 24 13 02:35 pm Link "yeah, ummm, I've got some bad news and some good news for ya...bad news-can't be there for your wedding...good news:you mentioned the other MUAs are cheaper...go save a few bucks, don't blame me if your MU looks like it was done for the circus...BUH-BYE, have a great wedding" click, hang up the phone. Jan 24 13 02:38 pm Link Tell her the truth. That you feel threatened and that her attitude borders a type that you have never dealt with personally, only seen on reality TV. Tell her that if she truly wants your professional services then she must equally and professional agree to them. But understanding that she has other options for makeup application, then you understand that she is concerned with the financial aspect as well as the end results. Make sure you smile while discussing this. But don't let her bully you. If she thinks she can walk all over you then she will. Again .... Not worth the stress. Jan 24 13 02:42 pm Link PDF IMAGES PHOTOGRAPHY wrote: Making it harder to get clients *just like her*? Jan 24 13 02:42 pm Link Lisa Berczel wrote: Good point! lol Jan 24 13 02:46 pm Link F that! Tell her how damn she is and let her know youre backing out of it because of her clear lack of respect for people. People need to be told. Simply stating that your understand that weddings are stressful but that is no reason to be abusive will suffice. Assert yourself! Dont feel so desperate that you allow people to treat you like a doormat. You are a professional. Tell her to go choke on a garter!! I wish I wouldve had someone as nice as you on my wedding day Jan 24 13 03:24 pm Link Bloom Makeup Artistry wrote: She gave YOU a deadline for the contract? If I understand this correctly, my response would be: Jan 24 13 05:32 pm Link lol Mary, what if she agrees? Jan 24 13 05:34 pm Link There are two kinds of people in this world, warm fuzzies and cold pricklies. Do business with all the warm fuzzies you can find, send the cold pricklies to your competition. In order to be successful, you must be prepared to send some business away. The cold pricklies for example. Life is simply too short to put up with folks who show you they are going to be nothing but trouble. Bridezilla -- nobody needs Bridezilla. But if you are going to work with Bridezilla, make sure you charge plenty to make up for the pain and suffering. Jan 24 13 05:44 pm Link Jami Lea wrote: LOL! I've never had someone call a bluff like that...I can't tell you what to do at that point..I guess you would have to raise your price to include your new attorney Makeup goes from $100.00 a head to $500.00 a head? Jan 24 13 06:20 pm Link lol Jan 24 13 06:49 pm Link There are some psycho assed biaches out there!!! Ya gotta CYA bro. Jan 24 13 06:56 pm Link I would say that you had another wedding on your books and now unable to do hers... Truly you don't need a reason at all to give and it's better if you back out then do her wedding and be nervous. Don't let a bride intimidate you. Don't let her try and talk you down on prices. Run far away from this bride!! Jan 24 13 07:29 pm Link If ANYONE gives you a review when you have not even worked with them on trial or full service wedding - they are LIARS. Reputable sites let you rebutt all reviews then they delete them after ascertaining the fact you didn't even MEET HER - I wouldn't even entertain working with the likes of her. I don't think you should even tell her anything other than that you are not available now. She sounds VINDICTIVE. Let her find someone else to zero her negativity upon - the sooner the better. You cannot let these bridezillas (unless she is someone else entirely yanking your chain) get to you. YOU are in control. Tell her you are not able to accommodate her wedding and wish her well. Then BLOCK HER - NEVER REPLY BACK TO HER AGAIN. You ultimately have discretion on what bride to work on - trials and business work BOTH ways - at YOUR discretion who you do business with - and from how you've explained - she would be holy hell. YOU OWE HER NOTHING (BUT HER RETAINER BACK) = YOU OWE HER NADA ZIP ZERO. Jan 25 13 12:48 am Link YES. Jan 25 13 12:59 am Link Simple. No trial, No booking. You want a solicitor to look at a contract and have a real contract drawn up? Then send me a written and signed affidavit that you will pay all my legal fees upfront regardless of whether you choose to book me or not. Please expect to pay anywhere above $2000. Not including the actual cost of my services. That will be enough to scare the pants off any 16 yr old pretending to play big shots i have or am an attorney and wants to show what a big girl they are when clearly they are insecure and deluded. Simple. Jan 25 13 03:09 am Link Mary wrote: Yes, she gave ME the deadline! One of the things I find really funny is that her wedding is almost a year away. I have brides who are getting married in a month who never even mention the word deadline. I am always very prompt with all of my clients and even mentioned that I would have it back to her by the end of the day. Jan 25 13 07:37 am Link Do it as quietly and as quickly as possible. No drama, not explanations. Give her nothing to hang her hat on. Jan 25 13 07:44 am Link kat makeup artist wrote: This. Jan 25 13 08:22 am Link An old rule in business, is, "10% of your customers, cause 90% of your problems." Another thing to consider, if she gives you bad reviews, and badmouths you, just for declining to work with you, it may actually work in your favor. By showing her Bside, it puts you in the light of being someone Smart enough to avoid getting caught up in the Drama. And attorneys for the makeup artist contract? Oh please. Run, just run. Jan 25 13 08:26 am Link Definitely decline this client. Do it now. Do it fast. Do it completely, but politely and professionally. Something along the lines, that you don't feel you are a good fit for each other and you are withdrawing from consideration. Thank her for her time and wish her luck. If she continues to contact you, advise her that your business with her is completed and you won't be responding in the future and block her. Jan 25 13 09:04 am Link Innovative Imagery wrote: +1 Jan 25 13 09:37 am Link Once I sent her what Mary said she quickly responded and said she would be going with someone else! Mission Accomplished! Jan 25 13 09:44 am Link |