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Globefunseekers wrote: HEALTHCARE & PHARMA Globefunseekers wrote: BY AMIAH TAYLOR Jan 27 23 04:48 pm Link JQuest wrote: Globefunseekers wrote: From Mediabiasfactcheck website; I wasn't the one referencing that fact checker, I wouldn't reference a fact checker ever, I think one of them is run by an ex porn star, forgot which one, it's obvious to me none of them offer any facts, it was someone else who referenced them, I simply made fun of them saying the CNN traffic is high, because it isn't. Jan 27 23 04:49 pm Link LightDreams wrote: Name the states you're comparing. You obviously not going to try to compare a state with no people vs one like Florida right??? Otherwise the states with higher mortality are actually left states like NY and California. So if you're going to play the same media tricks they don't actually work on me. Jan 27 23 04:56 pm Link Globefunseekers wrote: Are you the only person here who missed the PER CAPITA death rate ("per 100,000 residents")? Jan 27 23 05:10 pm Link  Moderator Note!It's helpful when users take a minute to report disruptive posting and "misinformation", otherwise it goes on too long. One can click on "help" and contact the mods from there. An occasional post to show something that goes against the mainstream thought is one thing, that can be good for discussion. But when an individual takes it upon themselves to turn the tide of popular opinion it's just disruptive and not wanted here, and should be reported. Thanks MM Admin Jan 28 23 04:20 am Link Globefunseekers wrote: Really, it’s interesting that it should appear under your name like that. At any rate whether you were “making fun” or not it would seem your information on CNNs website is as erroneous as your information on Covid. As of Nov. of 2022 CNN is the 2nd most visited English news website following only The NY Times: Jan 28 23 06:26 am Link Globefunseekers wrote: Just to tie a bow on this, all of the sources he cites are from 2020, when this was indeed a mystery. Jan 28 23 09:38 pm Link https://apnews.com/article/vaccine-died … osition_05 Results from 6-year-old Anastasia Weaver’s autopsy may take weeks. But online anti-vaccine activists needed only hours after her funeral this week to baselessly blame the COVID-19 vaccine. A prolific Twitter account posted Anastasia’s name and smiling dance portrait in a tweet with a syringe emoji. A Facebook user messaged her mother, Jessica Day-Weaver, to call her a “murderer” for having her child vaccinated. In reality, the Ohio kindergartner had experienced lifelong health problems since her premature birth, including epilepsy, asthma and frequent hospitalizations with respiratory viruses. “The doctors haven’t given us any information other than it was due to all of her chronic conditions. ... There was never a thought that it could be from the vaccine,” Day-Weaver said of her daughter’s death. But those facts didn’t matter online, where Anastasia was swiftly added to a growing list of hundreds of children, teens, athletes and celebrities whose unexpected deaths and injuries have been incorrectly blamed on COVID-19 shots. Using the hashtag #diedsuddenly, online conspiracy theorists have flooded social media with news reports, obituaries and GoFundMe pages in recent months, leaving grieving families to wrestle with the lies. There’s the 37-year-old Brazilian television host who collapsed live on air because of a congenital heart problem. The 18-year-old unvaccinated bull rider who died from a rare disease. The 32-year-old actress who died from bacterial infection complications. Once again, the anti-vaxx people look like shit. What kind of low life makes the death of a child into a cause célèbre, without fact and in lieu of fact, to advance their lies? What other than a piece of crap person would send a mourning mother an accusation that she murdered her child? The right has no shame and no compassion. From trump and Cruz to to the rest of the lying pigs that promote this bullshit- they are all crap. Feb 05 23 02:33 am Link "When a terrifying new virus shut down the country in March 2020, Joe Biden turned to David Kessler for advice." Interview with David Kessler. https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/ … r-00081091 Feb 06 23 06:28 pm Link In case you get your news from the right wing main stream propaganda sources: CLAIM: The U.S. military has recorded a 500% increase in new HIV infections since COVID-19 vaccines were introduced. THE FACTS: The U.S. military has not recorded any such increase, according to figures from the U.S. Department of Defense. Conservative commentators are baselessly claiming that rates of HIV in the military have skyrocketed since COVID-19 vaccines were rolled out to sow suspicion about the shot. “The Armed Forces of the United States recorded a five hundred percent (500%) increase in AIDS after administering the COVID-19 Vaccine to US Troops. The COVID-19 Vaccine is implicated,” wrote Hal Turner, a right-wing radio host, on his website last week. Turner gave no evidence for his claims. He did not respond to a request for comment. But figures from the Defense Department and the Congressional Research Service show that the 500% figure is massively exaggerated. Further, medical experts have repeatedly emphasized that COVID-19 vaccination has not been linked to developing HIV, or acquired immunodeficiency syndrome, which is caused by HIV. Nor does a condition called “VAIDS” — vaccine acquired immunodeficiency syndrome — exist. A total of 1,581 service members, including those in the National Guard and Reserves have been diagnosed with HIV infections since 2017, said Cmdr. Nicole Schwegman, a spokesperson for the Office of the Secretary of Defense. Three-hundred and seventeen service members were diagnosed with HIV in 2017; 280 in 2018; 314 in 2019; 237 in 2020; 309 in 2021; and 124 in 2022. These rates are consistent with figures that were cited in a 2019 Congressional Research Service report. That report cited estimates from the Armed Forces Health Surveillance Center showing that approximately 350 service members are diagnosed with HIV annually. COVID-19 vaccinations first became available to the public in December 2020. In 2021, 72 more cases of HIV were diagnosed compared to 2020, constituting a 30% increase — but nowhere near the 500% claimed. And in 2022, when the vaccine rollout was well underway, 185 fewer new HIV cases were diagnosed, marking a 60% drop from 2021. https://apnews.com/article/factcheck-we … 79d7c03f8d Mar 12 23 08:21 am Link Rightist lies, more rightist lies and damned rightist lies: CLAIM: U.S. hospitals are earning a $48,000 government subsidy for every patient that dies from COVID-19 in their care. THE FACTS: Hospital industry officials and public health experts confirm the federal government provides hospitals with enhanced payments for treating COVID-19 patients, but the payments are only currently applicable to those on Medicare and aren’t contingent on a patient’s death. Social media users are claiming American hospitals have a financial incentive to let people with coronavirus die under their watch. But hospitals have never been compensated by the federal government based on a patient dying of COVID-19 in one of their facilities, say industry officials and public health experts. During the pandemic, hospitals have received additional money for treating COVID-19 patients as part of the Coronavirus Aid, Relief, and Economic Security Act, or CARES, the 2020 law meant to address the economic fallout of the pandemic. But those increased payments don’t apply to every COVID-19 patient treated in a hospital, just the ones under Medicare, which is the federal healthcare program serving people 65 and over. Colin Milligan, a spokesperson for the American Hospital Association, confirmed that hospitals are currently eligible to receive a 20% increase in Medicare payments for caring for COVID-19 patients. “These patients are often very costly and time and labor-intensive for hospitals to treat,” he explained in an email Wednesday. And despite what the social media posts claim, the enhanced COVID-19 payments aren’t based on whether the patient lives or dies, experts said. In general, Medicare payments are based on the severity of the patient’s condition and the types of treatments provided, said Juliette Cubanski, deputy director of Medicare policy at the Kaiser Family Foundation. The average cost of a COVID-19 hospitalization for a Medicare patient is about $24,000, she said, citing claims data from Centers for Medicare & Medicaid Services. But the reimbursement for more severely ill patients — such as those placed on a ventilator for multiple days — is roughly $40,000, according to KFF’s analysis. Social media posts citing a $48,000 subsidy for COVID-19 deaths appear to be taking that $40,000 average cost for treating the sickest COVID-19 patients and factoring in the special 20% reimbursement rate increase. But Cubanski argued that’s not a fair assessment of the potential payout to hospitals. “My understanding of the estimates from CMS is that they already include the 20% payment increase in the stated amount,” she wrote in an email. “So the payment for an extreme case would be $40k including the 20% increase, not $40k plus 20%.” Spokespersons for CMS and the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services, which oversees the agency, didn’t respond to emails seeking comment this week. But President Joe Biden has announced the federal government’s declaration of a public health emergency for COVID-19 will end on May 11. That means the enhanced Medicare payments — along with other measures the federal government enacted to weather the pandemic — will soon be a thing of the past. https://apnews.com/article/factcheck-we … 79d7c03f8d Mar 12 23 08:38 am Link Now that we KNOW that Faux News promoted false stories for the purpose of profit, we should also be wondering if they knowingly promoted stories during the pandemic that they KNEW or suspected where harmful to the public to maintain their ratings share as well as in order to push the false agendas and culture wars that are popular with Republicans. Any guesses? Mar 12 23 10:58 am Link Hunter GWPB wrote: This says it all for me. Mar 12 23 12:11 pm Link "The Republicans are all about tearing down. Never about building up." https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2mgLbdGIepc Mar 12 23 02:58 pm Link No surprise, the evidence of the duplicity of DeSantis' administration comes out. Not that the truth will matter one bit to the rightists bent on tearing down America. Ladapo needs to stand before a medical review board and DeSantis needs to be held accountable. TAMPA, Fla. (AP) — An analysis that was the basis of a highly criticized recommendation from Florida’s surgeon general cautioning young men against getting the COVID-19 vaccine omitted information that showed catching the virus could increase the risk of a cardiac-related death much more than getting the mRNA shot, according to drafts of the analysis obtained by the Tampa Bay Times. The nonbinding recommendation made by Florida Surgeon General Joseph Ladapo last fall ran counter to the advice provided by the federal Centers for Disease Control and Prevention. Ladapo, a Harvard-trained medical doctor who was appointed by Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis in 2021 to head the Florida Department of Health, has drawn intense scrutiny over his shared resistance with the Republican governor to COVID-19 mandates for vaccines and masks and other health policies endorsed by the federal government. The early drafts of the analysis obtained by the Times through a records request showed that catching COVID-19 could increase the chances of a cardiac-related death much more than getting the vaccine, but that information was missing from the final version put out by the Florida Department of Health last October. Ladapo said that the risk of men ages 18 to 39 having cardiac complications outweighed the benefits of getting the mRNA vaccine. https://apnews.com/article/florida-lada … 1687e62e4e Apr 10 23 06:09 am Link https://apnews.com/article/fact-check-C … 5378174124 "CLAIM: The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention has admitted it purposely distributed lethal batches of COVID-19 vaccinations to states with conservative-leaning populations. AP’S ASSESSMENT: False. The CDC has made no such admission and no reports of deadly batches of COVID-19 vaccines have been reported. Social media posts spreading the erroneous information are relying on a flawed analysis published by a website known to spread false information." On and on it goes as the red hats make up lies, spread lies and believe lies. Apr 20 23 05:09 pm Link Major COVID news out of Florida... The State of Florida, and Ron DeSantis, has just settled a major COVID lawsuit for actively hiding, and deliberately misrepresenting, the number of COVID deaths in Florida. They went to extraordinary lengths to hide the fact that their own records showed that 23,000 Floridians had actually died of COVID-19. --- "The Florida Health Department "will pay the plaintiffs' $152,000 legal bill and resume regular posting of the data that DeSantis's communications team insisted at the time was no longer necessary because cases had 'significantly decreased' and that Florida was 'returning to normal.'" "Twenty-three thousand Floridians died during the Delta surge, and not only did the DeSantis administration restrict information on Covid during that time, they repeatedly downplayed the severity of the outbreak to fit their political narrative and help DeSantis run for president. That decision cost lives. Our school leaders were struggling to make informed decisions about how to mitigate the spread of Covid, whether it be masking or social distancing policies, or other strategies. They needed data, they needed information, but the state made it unavailable, then said it didn't exist." The Guardian reports, "Smith said the settlement became inevitable when an appeals court ordered the health department earlier this year to produce documents containing Covid data it claimed did not exist." "The DeSantis administration was caught red handed lying about the existence of these public records in court, repeatedly claiming that the records we were requesting didn't exist". --- They repeatedly tried to hide the fact that their own records (which they tried to deny even existed), showed that 23,000 Floridians died of COVID-19. And got caught, red-handed. Oct 15 23 08:47 am Link With research and with the benefit of hindsight, we are now getting a much better idea of just how many people died from taking Hydroxychloroquine, which had been falsely promoted as a "miracle cure" for COVID-19... Source: Politico (and others): --- "Hydroxychloroquine could have caused 17,000 deaths during COVID, study finds" "Nearly 17,000 people may have died after taking hydroxycholoroquine during the first wave of COVID, according to a study by French researchers. The anti-malaria drug was prescribed to some patients hospitalized with COVID-19 during the first wave of the pandemic, "despite the absence of evidence documenting its clinical benefits," the researchers point out in their paper, published in the February issue of Biomedicine & Pharmacotherapy. Now, researchers have estimated that some 16,990 people in six countries — France, Belgium, Italy, Spain, Turkey and the U.S. — may have died as a result. That figure stems from a study published in the Nature scientific journal in 2021 which reported an 11 percent increase in the mortality rate, linked to its prescription against COVID-19, because of the potential adverse effects like heart rhythm disorders, and its use instead of other effective treatments. Researchers from universities in Lyon, France, and Québec, Canada, used that figure to analyze hospitalization data for COVID in each of the six countries, exposure to hydroxychloroquine and the increase in the relative risk of death linked to the drug. In fact, they say the figure may be far higher given the study only concerns six countries from March to July 2020, when the drug was prescribed much more widely." Jan 04 24 11:31 am Link LightDreams wrote: "“What do you have to lose? Take it,” Donald J. Dickhead Jan 04 24 01:23 pm Link Is DeSantis, using his lapdog and unqualified Surgeon General, to suggest eliminating the mRNA covid vaccines/boosters in Florida, just in time for the Iowa caucuses? Is he promoting a Republican lie and putting all Floridians at risk in an effort to have a decent showing in Iowa? Isn't it enough that he wants to kill women at child bearing age? https://thehill.com/policy/healthcare/4 … ed-theory/ Jan 05 24 01:54 pm Link I don't want to get into the drama that's going on right now about mRNA shots. But here is some useful information from 2015-2018 for everyone to look into that predates the politicization of the subject. https://www.google.com/search?q=mrna+cr … 8&tbm= And mRNA itself is functionally inert. It is a carrier and on its own it does nothing. It's purpose is to deliver a package created in CRISPR. <<< And this was not a controversial statement in 2015-2018. It's what it is. Respectfully submitted. Jan 05 24 03:25 pm Link "Some Chicago hospitals, include Rush University Medical Center, have reinstated mask policies amid a spike in COVID, flu and RSV cases. Mask mandates are back at several Illinois hospitals as cases of COVID, flu and RSV continue to rise across the Chicago following the 2023 holidays." (posted in local news 4 Jan 24) Jan 05 24 04:01 pm Link Hunter GWPB wrote: Here in Canada we have the Province of Alberta (think small time Texas), that now has an "ultra-right" party running things (they overthrew their own "more traditional" right-wing governing party). Their only claim to fame, so far, has been mind-boggling incompetence... Jan 05 24 04:28 pm Link LightDreams wrote: "ultra right wing" Feb 01 24 04:17 am Link JayPhotosnapshot wrote: You're showing your, rather extreme, colours... Feb 01 24 10:09 am Link Court victories for free speech, public health, common sense and common decency. Refusing to wear a mask in a setting where they are required is not free speech! Yeah for finding for the obvious! Excerpts: A federal appeals court in New Jersey ruled Monday that residents’ refusal to wear face masks at a school board meeting during the COVID-19 pandemic is not protected as a free speech right. “In the wake of the COVID-19 pandemic, federal, state, and local governments scrambled to implement policies to control the spread of the disease. These measures–which included mandates to wear face masks in public indoor spaces such as schools, businesses, and restaurants–spawned skepticism and debate,” the court wrote in its ruling Monday. “Some objectors voices their discontent online, some turned to their elected representatives, and some asked the courts to intervene.” While the cases were dismissed for different reasons, the court ruled that “like all courts to address this issue,” refusing to wear a protective mask required by health and safety orders during a public health emergency is not protected as a First Amendment right. “Skeptics are free to–and did–voice their opposition through multiple means, but disobeying a masking requirement is not one of them,” the ruling said. “One could not, for example, refuse to pay taxes to express the belief that ‘taxes are theft.’ Nor could one refuse to wear a motorcycle helmet as a symbolic protest against a state law requiring them.”" https://thehill.com/regulation/court-ba … urt-rules/ Feb 06 24 08:22 pm Link Continuing research continues to disprove relationships between cardiac death and mRNA vaccines. "[T]he evidence for people having cardiac arrest as a result of taking a vaccine is nonexistent. And the potential for any heart problems as a result of taking a vaccine is extremely rare — while experiencing heart problems after catching Covid is not." "Seems like a pretty obvious incentive to get vaccinated unless your doctor suggests otherwise. But that right-wingers ran with the cardiac arrest conspiracy theory is another manifestation of the conservative war on public health." https://www.msnbc.com/the-reidout/reido … rcna147641 But, this particular copy came from MSNBC, so y'all can dismiss it out of hand, right? Apr 12 24 08:11 pm Link |
