PHP-Photography wrote:

No, we don't know how long the immunity will last, 1 month, 6 months etc.

You completely misread my post, sir.  My statement was that we know from the study of other viral infections that "herd immunity" develops after upwards of 70% of the herd has acquired antibodies. 

Since you mentioned it, the acquired immunity from many viral infections lasts for life.  You are correct in that the duration of acquired from this particular strain of corona virus has not been determined.  One encouraging finding is that early, anecdotal reports report that convalescent serum is yielding positive results in very ill patients.

Light and Lens Studio wrote:

You completely misread my post, sir.  My statement was that we know from the study of other viral infections that "herd immunity" develops after upwards of 70% of the herd has acquired antibodies. 

Since you mentioned it, the acquired immunity from many viral infections lasts for life.  You are correct in that the duration of acquired from this particular strain of corona virus has not been determined.  One encouraging finding is that early, anecdotal reports report that convalescent serum is yielding positive results in very ill patients.

And on the other hand, there have been tests that indicate a significant percentage of CV_19 survivors do not test positive for antibodies at all.

There is no significant testing data yet to indicate what levels of immunity we can expect.
Viruses are somehow very good at mutating too, that means it could be a moving target.
At this point, we know that we don't know more than we know...

Shadow Dancer wrote:

And on the other hand, there have been tests that indicate a significant percentage of CV_19 survivors do not test positive for antibodies at all.

There is no significant testing data yet to indicate what levels of immunity we can expect.
Viruses are somehow very good at mutating too, that means it could be a moving target.
At this point, we know that we don't know more than we know...

Exactly.  This was detailed in my original post.  The gentleman from Finland apparently didn't see that post.  There are now several mutations of SARS-CoV-2 that very likely mean that there won't be a vaccine.  There is a lot of bogus test reporting online, unfortunately.  And a lot of "studies" that aren't designed well enough to draw definitive conclusions from and some "studies" that aren't studies at all -just anecdotes or one or two patients.  Anecdotal reports do describe improvement in desperately ill COVID patients who received convalescent serum (implying that antibodies were formed by the donors).

Garry k wrote:
Its really best not to be meeting anybody during these times

Wait til the Health Experts tell us that the pandemic has passed

It's not going to pass. It's going to be like the flu. Seasonal. I mean this thing spread around the world in weeks and you think it's going away? At some point we have a cocktail of herd immunity and vaccine. But that day is realistically two years away. In the meantime there is a bridge and it's going to be about how to walk on it.

Green Wave Photo 312 wrote:

It's not going to pass. It's going to be like the flu. Seasonal. I mean this thing spread around the world in weeks and you think it's going away? At some point we have a cocktail of herd immunity and vaccine. But that day is realistically two years away. In the meantime there is a bridge and it's going to be about how to walk on it.

Spot on

Paul Xanadu Photography wrote:
One have to do a Covid-19 test, self isolate yourself before Each Shoot.

A 14 day quarantine for a tfp shoot? A 14 day quarantine for a $1000 shoot? Either way I doubt it.

John Silva Photography wrote:
but pure paranoia won't make you sick.

It does but not corona.

John Silva Photography wrote:
Most of my shooting takes place from MORE than 15-20 feet away using an 85mm lens.
I'm not downplaying the seriousness of Covid-19 but pure paranoia won't make you sick.
How many reading this are exactly like my employee?

Paranoia does rot the mind and stress does weaken your immune system.

I noticed that Solano County amended its stay-at-home order May 1st to include many types of outdoor recreation. If you shoot outside, you could make a good argument why this is now permitted in Solano Cnty. (I also noticed that Solano County has had a slight uptick in active CV19 cases. I believe from 27 to 40 during the course of this thread.)

Do a standard risk assessment about a possible shoot:

1. How old are you? Diabetic, cancer, immune problems, etc.? (Personal risk factors)
2. Do you have a family?
3. Where’s the model been? Only Solano County? San Fran? L.A.? NY?
4. How important is the shoot to you?

While I strongly believe in social distancing now in L.A., I also want my body to put up a good fight if I become infected. I’m in good health and that’s part of my risk assessment. If I were boarding the Titanic and somebody told me the ship can’t sink, I’d immediately want to personally count how many life boats there were. That’s risk assessment.

Yes I think you’re employee is a germaphobe.

John Silva Photography wrote:
I own an essential business. One of my employees is working from home doing assembly.
At work he won't touch anybody, or be touched by anybody with a common cold and constantly sprays down areas that have been touched, and that was before Covid. Though I was able to convince him to work from home, I bring him product that has been delivered by my suppliers and have not been touched for months since leaving the factories, other than the cardboard boxes. At his place I put the boxes on a tarp and he sprays them down with bleach. He won't touch any of the boxes for THREE days, after which he assembles the product and I pick it up!
All of my employees wears a mask and NOBODY comes into the store without one and social distance happens as well. No more than 3 customers in the store at one time.
It's been pretty well shown now that getting Covid from touching things or being touched would be an extremely rare and isolated incident. So the most IMPORTANT precautionary aspect is distancing and a face covering, preferably with an N95 mask but anything to keep droplets from becoming airborne from person to person is extremely effective.
All that said shooting a model that has been responsibly social distancing and if one of you wears a mask during the shoot should be way more safe than going to the grocery store or getting gas or accepting your next Amazon packages or pizza delivery!
Most of my shooting takes place from MORE than 15-20 feet away using an 85mm lens.
I'm not downplaying the seriousness of Covid-19 but pure paranoia won't make you sick.
How many reading this are exactly like my employee? Do you consider him the smartest person in the world, overly cautious or just plain weird?
How many here have actually already shot but just aren't saying so?
John

Your employee sounds a bit overly cautious.
On the other hand, since photography does not appear to be your livelihood, your endless defense of a risky activity makes you seem overly careless.

It is not my job to choose which is less harmful, although I'd be willing to wager your employee will not contract Covid_19 any time soon and I cannot make that same statement about you based on your persistent need to put yourself at risk for a  non-essential activity.

Just my 2 cents.