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I posted this ad for models ad it gets flagged. I get an email saying please don't use craigslist for this type of thing. I see a whole lot worse on craigslist ads. Here is a copy of the ad. What the heck is wrong with it. Bikini model needed for waterfall/dirtbike photo shoot Looking for a model with at least some who is available weekday mornings is late September or into October for a waterfall/ dirt bike outfit themed photo shoot. This is a two part photo shoot. First part is swimsuit short shorts dress depending on what you have. The second part is a dirt bike outfit I have a new helmet, gloves, boots, gloves, top and pants. There wouldn't be a dirt bike at the photo shoot. Both would have implied photos. Here is a link to my portfolio https://www.modelmayhem.com/mcwhinneyphotography Please email a link to your portfolio or a head shot full length and a couple poses. But really prefer a link to your work. I can send examples of the type of photos I'm looking for. Pay 200 plus images Please include that your available weekday mornings. What outfits you have for the waterfall bikini/dress part of the photo shoot. If your ok with implied. Also that you know where angles camp is. Jul 26 21 12:16 pm Link I'm not sure what your question is but several MM photographers including myself have received the same flag and response for model castings... ... meanwhile in my area there's no shortage of castings for Adult Models, Model to "sit on my face", Cam Girls, OnlyFans models, and the typical scammers that remain on CL. Jul 26 21 12:33 pm Link Just trying to figure out what is wrong with the ad. So I can change it and not get flagged. Not a lot of mm models in the area so i thought craiglist would be a good place. I see adult work etc on there. I thought mine was pretty tame compared to others. Jul 26 21 12:55 pm Link The only thing that seems to be wrong with the ad are grammer mistakes and other unclear sentences. If you paid for the ad and they removed it, dispute the charge with your credit card provider/bank. Jul 26 21 02:21 pm Link I think there are many (possibly other photographers) that just flag all posts looking for models. Some people are just dicks and Craigslist is a magnet for them. Jul 26 21 02:47 pm Link I put an ad on CL a few weeks ago that was pretty tame and got several responses from local models. Over half were fine with nude photography after I explained the details in my first private email. I was happy that the ad was not deleted immediately. Sadly, it was removed two days later and I got the same message asking me not to place ads like that again. The message said that my credit card transaction would be refunded as a courtesy. Since the ad wasn't deleted immediately, I think we can assume that no algorithm or AI was involved in its removal. Maybe other photographers were responsible, but that seems odd, since we are not very competitive in this area when it comes to hiring models. We often refer models to each other, in fact. Like so many other tech platforms, Craigslist remains a mystery to me, something like the Bermuda Triangle. Jul 26 21 03:18 pm Link I used to use CL a lot, but in the past couple of years, it's been my experience that just about any photographer looking for models ads gets flagged. I recently posted a totally bare bones ad - no photos or links, just "Photographer looking for models for a paid shoot". This seemed to stay under the radar and stayed up for the duration. In addition to a few models, I got one response from someone telling me that photographers are predators and that the police will be watching me. I also had one model set up a shoot and then back out because "she doesn't know what kind of person I am". A lot of people are obsessed with murder documentary shows, blogs and podcasts. There have been a few prominent murder stories where the murderer posed as a photographer to lure their victims. Some of these stories are 20-40 years old, but they keep being recycled by these murder obsessives, so some people seem to think that models are being murdered left and right by photographers. CL might be a popular target for online vigilantes. Jul 26 21 05:45 pm Link It does happen and not just in decades past. A young woman was murdered in a motel in Portland (OR) a few years back. She had an MM profile. I didn't follow the story enough to know the details of the murder. Jul 26 21 06:08 pm Link MN Photography wrote: I had the same thing happen to me. except it was right here on MM! Jul 26 21 06:14 pm Link Ironically, practically every time I do get a post that stays up for awhile on CL, I get a slew of 'catfish' contacting me. For those that aren't familiar, a Catfish is typically a pathetic lonely masturbating adolescent boy or and equally pathetic lonely older man living vicariously online as an attractive female. There's many reasons they do this, but it's pretty much because they have terrible social skills and find the need to talk to somebody. They usually give themselves away by quite rapidly changing the subject from doing a photo shoot to writing about sexual encounters and saying 'how horny they're getting just thinking about modeling'. I 'll call their bluff immediately. Yesterday I had a weird thing happen after I called one of them out (not photography related though). He admitted he was a catfish and was sort of addicted to doing it and wanted to know how to stop. The cure is simple. It doesn't require any medications or 12 step programs. Just getting out of the house, more importantly get away from the computer, and actually go out and do something, whether it be going for a walk, movie, dinner, to the park.... just get out. Jul 26 21 06:31 pm Link Beyond Boudoir wrote: That's why CL is so F'd up! Jul 26 21 06:43 pm Link MCmodeling wrote: Given your lack of attention to grammar and clarity, I never would have read that ad and expected that a professional was posting it. I am not saying this to insult you, and I don't think perfect English would be required, but the first indicator that someone is a scammer is bad English. Jul 26 21 09:13 pm Link if you remember how craigslist was a decade ago you will enjoy this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=drANWRQ1exs i will never understand why people ask on model mayhem; how to book shoots using another website, or complain about another site theyre using unsuccessfully ...which is not designed specifically for booking photoshoots. if everyone ONLY uses MM to book shoots, then MM will be awesome again and no one will have anything to complain about when it comes to finding talent to collaborate with. Hunter GWPB wrote: me want bikini shoot. no bikini will be at shoot. Jul 26 21 10:43 pm Link Paolo D Photography wrote: THIS!!!!!! Jul 26 21 11:12 pm Link Paolo D Photography wrote: Sure. Photoshop it in later. But it does limit the posing ability of the model. "Okay, now put your hand on the handlebar. No, no, your hand is to high. Now it is to low." Jul 27 21 02:50 am Link Hunter GWPB wrote: uh, yeah it does. what? Jul 27 21 03:03 am Link Your childishness is on display again. ps: If you think it it is in the wrong forum, ask the mods to move it. Posting a concern about advertising for models is not off topic, except for the petulant. Jul 27 21 05:03 am Link I’ve used Craigslist almost as long as I’ve used MM, and when the reportnicks aren’t active, I have better luck with CL than I do on MM. I’ve posted almost identical ads for years. Sometimes, I can post it several times in a year and it never gets deleted, other times it will be deleted in hours. Sometimes the most tame ads will get deleted where I live yet in other areas ads clearly asking for adult work stand. It’s clearly a matter of abusive reporting. I get the impression some of the reporting is from other photographers and some is from people with high reporting ability who see themselves as the moral police. One thing I will say is in my experience, ads with links seem to get reported more, I so I always email potential models links instead of posting them in the ad. Jul 27 21 10:57 am Link Paolo D Photography wrote: If he gets into any legal trouble he Better Call Saul!!! Jul 27 21 12:08 pm Link SayCheeZ! wrote: hahaha! thats another one i havent seen in a long time. Jul 27 21 02:32 pm Link Could be that there is somebody (several somebodies, actually, as one flag won't get a post deleted, just think that all modeling posts are inappropriate. Jul 27 21 07:00 pm Link All Yours Photography wrote: Al it takes is one person with a VPN where the IP changes with each click of the mouse 'flag' to get a post removed. Jul 27 21 09:06 pm Link Craigslist is HYPER sensitive to being linked to human trafficking and being targeted by the FBI, as Backpage was. They have gone so overboard with this that even the slightest hint of anything "R Rated" is not wanted. When you receive the message that says "do not use Craigslist for this purpose", your ad has not been flagged by the community, it has been deleted by Craigslist.. They have algorithms that key on certain words like "nude" "bikini" "nudity" "topless".. etc. I have always had a MUCH greater response from models on Craigslist than I ever have on Model Mayhem .... My Craigslist ad simply reads "Photographer seeking Female Models" ....... that's it ... I can discuss the particulars with those who reply. Good Luck in the new age of censorship. Jul 28 21 09:42 pm Link MCmodeling wrote: That was what was wrong with it. Jul 31 21 05:19 am Link Find models using Instagram Jul 31 21 05:32 pm Link Paolo D Photography wrote: And before he was Saul Goodman, he was Porno Gil i will never understand why people ask on model mayhem; how to book shoots using another website, or complain about another site theyre using unsuccessfully ...which is not designed specifically for booking photoshoots. Because Craigslist used to be WAY better for booking models than MM for years and years. Even in its prime, I'd run a casting call on here and get maybe 25% of the responses from models that I would on cragislist. Aug 01 21 12:41 pm Link The OP indicates on his profile he has Parkinson. Maybe the grammar policeman can cut him a break. Grammar aside his post seems a bit confused but my guess its not why it was flagged. There are a lot of CL trolls who spend their days flagging even the most innocuous of posts. Going forward consider having a friend look over you ad before you post. Check for misspelled words and try to be as clear as possible for what you want. Personally I'd make the ad very simple and explain to potential models exactly what you want in an email or text. Aug 01 21 05:51 pm Link I have posted several ads on Craigslist explicitly stating that I am looking for female models for boudoir and nude photo shoots and have never been flagged. Sep 03 21 01:02 pm Link Paola D Photography wrote wrote: Probably because many models on MM do not respond. I was on here for one year before I got my first reply to a photo shoot request from a model Sep 03 21 01:06 pm Link EZRider wrote: I'm mystified by whatever triggers it. Before the pandemic, I posted my ad in Seattle's talent gigs specifically saying I do artsy nude photos and it was up for a month, generating tons of great responses and I ended up having a half dozen fantastic shoots before Covid ruined everything Sep 08 21 02:53 pm Link robotimpurity wrote: I think much of that comes from user flagging. One market might have other photographers flagging to get rid of their competition and/or moral high grounders flagging anything they think is immoral. Another CL areas may not. My area varies. I’ve had years where an add would get flagged in minutes and years where the same add would run till expired. Sep 08 21 04:36 pm Link Craigslist is full of the "woke" generation of keyboard warriors. This just happened to me and before I got the note my advert had ran for three days without any issues. Some stupid idiotic people that confuse art and porn are simply flagging every advert they see with trigger words. The really sad thing is Craigslist does not even bother to look at the advert to see if the flagging is justified and to add further insult to injury Criagslist refuses to answer their phone. Therefore preventing a request for a review by Craigslist staff. I am changing my advert to simply read models wanted. When the email pops in my inbox I will then send them to my website which has the wording for the casting call. It is what it is. Sep 16 21 05:14 am Link Patrick Walberg wrote: Sorry but MM Is pretty much dead. Models demanding pay when they only have a five-image portfolio is way too frequent. And then there is the model that refuses to let things drop. I just had one of those. They answered my casting call and when I replied back that the rate they wanted was not the rate I was willing to pay they started email after email trying to educate me on what a model should be paid. Sep 16 21 05:22 am Link SayCheeZ! wrote: I had on here that I booked for a boudoir and nude shoot. About a month or so before the shoot she freaked out and cancelled on me through an Instagram post. The next day she messaged me on Instagram apologizing for the night before and asked if it would be okay to do the shoot but only boudoir. I told her that that was fine and everything seemed good. The night before the shoot she messaged me on Instagram cancelling the shoot then blocked me. Sep 21 21 01:37 pm Link Fred Gerhart wrote: Similar to my situation. I simply don’t need agency models for my purposes and it certainly makes no sense to pay agency rates for an inexperienced amateur model. I used to get a lot of TF takers on CL. More recently I offer moderate rates mostly so I can advertise in gigs and not get flagged. Sep 21 21 02:01 pm Link SayCheeZ! wrote: Actually, it's the Feds who f'd it up for CL. They were getting the same sort of flack as the famed old "Backpage" for all the ads seeking/advertising sex. They reluctantly complied and removed all sex-related ads (supposedly). I've been using CL since the mid-90's, and have found houses, girlfriends, cars, lots of work, casual massage-partners, etc, but have more of less given up on finding any models there. I do see some ads for models creeping back in locally here in Hawaii. Not sure how long their ads stay up. Oct 14 21 10:42 pm Link |
