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Photographer

PHOTOPHYLIA

Posts: 25

Suwanee, Georgia, US

Spreads win 90% off the time in this category.
Basically, it's a contest for the best-looking pussy.
Nothing wrong with that but it's becoming boring and predictable.

I suggest a new category for the naked female body.
This one would exclude spreads.

This will give the rest of us, who don't do spreads, an opportunity to win once in a  while.
Because those who specialized in this spread genre collect the badges by dozen.

This new category would give more exposure to artistic nudes.
Let's face it. What's the point of submitting a nude without spreads?
The photographer knows he's not going to win.

Let's be more creative, shall we?
The female body is more than her genitalia.

Jan 02 23 04:01 am Link

Photographer

David A Reichel

Posts: 38

San Diego, California, US

I completely agree - boring and predictable.  I occasionally submit photos to POTD 18+ (and have won a couple of times - one was a spread shot and the other wasn't).  A few times the admins rejected my submissions because of 'Emphasis on Genitals'. 
I would like to see a category that excludes spreads and that would include the 'implied' images that are no longer acceptable in the regular POTD.  I've been told by one of the Admins that there is no interest in creating an additional POTD category.  This is frustrating for me because many of my images include booty poses,  sheer fabrics, bikini bottoms cut too low, etc. that are not permitted in the regular POTD.
It seems to me that 'creative' and 'artistic' images typically are among a second tier of votes; the same old poses from the same photographers will continue to dominate the votes.

Jan 03 23 08:26 am Link

Photographer

PHOTOPHYLIA

Posts: 25

Suwanee, Georgia, US

Given that the spread pictures win most of the time, the rejection of submissions because of 'Emphasis on Genitals' is completely illogical. I got rejected on this basis a couple of time.

I can only share your frustration and totally disagree with the administration that there is no interest in creating an additional POTD category. It seems to me that there are 2 main types of voters: the voyeurs and the photographers. We know what the voyeurs are looking for.

Administration must be more open to photographers.

Jan 03 23 09:48 am Link

Photographer

Dorola

Posts: 479

Toronto, Ontario, Canada

I submitted a photo to the +18 contest. I was a black and white photo showing a nude model from mid-leg to shoulderss. It was low key. Where you could see the outline of a closed vulva, there was nothing to be seen. The mods took the photo out of the contest and said this:

Reason: This image is considered Emphasis on the Genitals specifically for the POTD contests, and is not permitted as an entry. However, this image is acceptable in your portfolio as long as you mark it Mature.

I mentioned to them that many of the photos that they allow are nothing but an open pussy-fest and contravene the statement they made to me about what is permitted. Below is the mod's answer to me

Answer: Please notice that all of those images include the model head, did you notice that? Pretty much any "bodyscape" type image that shows genitals but not the head is going to be considered too much emphasis on genitals.

The mods are just applying arbitrary rules,

Jan 03 23 12:49 pm Link

Photographer

PHOTOPHYLIA

Posts: 25

Suwanee, Georgia, US

"Reason: This image is considered Emphasis on the Genitals specifically for the POTD contests, and is not permitted as an entry. However, this image is acceptable in your portfolio as long as you mark it Mature."

A) Anybody can zoom-in in on the spreads and get too much emphasis. Many of these pictures leave nothing to the imagination.

B) Not acceptable for POTD 18+ but acceptable for portfolio. Where is the logic in that?

Jan 03 23 01:21 pm Link

Photographer

David A Reichel

Posts: 38

San Diego, California, US

Dorola wrote:
Answer: Please notice that all of those images include the model head, did you notice that? Pretty much any "bodyscape" type image that shows genitals but not the head is going to be considered too much emphasis on genitals.
,

So it seems the Mods consider two pair of lips are better than one.

Jan 04 23 08:40 am Link

Photographer

PHOTOPHYLIA

Posts: 25

Suwanee, Georgia, US

Another day and the four top ones are?

Spreads!

Jan 06 23 04:16 am Link

Photographer

Julien S Photography

Posts: 2

Redwood City, California, US

Completely agree…this has been bugging me for a long time.  Often much more artistic shots are overlooked in favor of genitalia.  I’ve been thinking of submitting a photo with words on it to that effect stating that art should be the goal, not porn.

Jan 10 23 09:29 am Link

Photographer

Erasm Roterdam

Posts: 639

Millbury, Massachusetts, US

Completely agree.
Nudes make it all the time to the best Museums and Galleries , very unlikely that to happen to Spreads.

Jan 15 23 05:23 pm Link

Photographer

rxz

Posts: 1085

Glen Ellyn, Illinois, US

I totally agree with all the comments above.  But with those taking the time to vote, most seem to just be interested with images of models with their legs spread.   And yesterday's top vote getter received 78 votes.  Not much interest in a contest with an membership of "a million members".
If there were 2 18+ contests, art nudes and erotic nudes, would the art nudes contest get any votes?  I am guessing it would really depend on the interest and the number and quality of the images submitted. 
For now the spreads win.  As for any communication with the mods on this topic, from past communication, I think I could do better talking to my neighbor's cat.

Jan 17 23 09:24 am Link

Photographer

PHOTOPHYLIA

Posts: 25

Suwanee, Georgia, US

rxz wrote:
And yesterday's top vote getter received 78 votes.  Not much interest in a contest with an membership of "a million members".
If there were 2 18+ contests, art nudes and erotic nudes, would the art nudes contest get any votes?  I am guessing it would really depend on the interest and the number and quality of the images submitted. 
.

Good point; this site has not that much traffic.

Jan 17 23 12:24 pm Link

Photographer

David L. Stevens

Posts: 1129

Jacksonville, Florida, US

David A Reichel wrote:
I completely agree - boring and predictable.  I occasionally submit photos to POTD 18+ (and have won a couple of times - one was a spread shot and the other wasn't).  A few times the admins rejected my submissions because of 'Emphasis on Genitals'. 
I would like to see a category that excludes spreads and that would include the 'implied' images that are no longer acceptable in the regular POTD.  I've been told by one of the Admins that there is no interest in creating an additional POTD category.  This is frustrating for me because many of my images include booty poses,  sheer fabrics, bikini bottoms cut too low, etc. that are not permitted in the regular POTD.
It seems to me that 'creative' and 'artistic' images typically are among a second tier of votes; the same old poses from the same photographers will continue to dominate the votes.

There is no interest because this site has gone to hell in a hand basket. Not sure if taken over but new ownership but it is a shell of what it use to be. The admins are lazy and let AI reject very viable images. In addition the site is extremely inconsistent and accept some photos that are show much more than those rejected.

Back to the original post, yes I have noticed the same thing and had this very discussion with a photographer who I thought should have own yesterday's POTD hands down but it/s not about the quality of the image as much as the open legs of the model.

Jan 18 23 04:31 am Link

Photographer

Dorola

Posts: 479

Toronto, Ontario, Canada

Let's see if the model care about this photo, It isn't even marked "M" and it shows a glass toy in her butthole.

https://www.modelmayhem.com/portfolio/pic/47787929

Jan 21 23 10:05 pm Link

Artist/Painter

Hunter GWPB

Posts: 8179

King of Prussia, Pennsylvania, US

Dorola wrote:
Let's see if the model care about this photo,

Apparently someone cared

Jan 22 23 01:52 pm Link

Photographer

KenPhoto

Posts: 109

Indianapolis, Indiana, US

PHOTOPHYLIA wrote:
Spreads win 90% off the time in this category.
Basically, it's a contest for the best-looking pussy.
Nothing wrong with that but it's becoming boring and predictable.

I suggest a new category for the naked female body.
This one would exclude spreads.

This will give the rest of us, who don't do spreads, an opportunity to win once in a  while.
Because those who specialized in this spread genre collect the badges by dozen.

This new category would give more exposure to artistic nudes.
Let's face it. What's the point of submitting a nude without spreads?
The photographer knows he's not going to win.

Let's be more creative, shall we?
The female body is more than her genitalia.

I completely agree with this and I will be the first to admit that I enter a lot of spread shots in the 18+ contest because I know those are most likely to win. I have also submitted more artistic nudes a number of times. Some examples:

https://www.modelmayhem.com/contests/po … iew/372695
https://www.modelmayhem.com/contests/po … iew/372625
https://www.modelmayhem.com/contests/po … iew/372869
https://www.modelmayhem.com/contests/po … iew/372828
https://www.modelmayhem.com/contests/po … iew/373238

But I know that those images have pretty much a 0% chance of winning so I also submit spreads if I want to try to win some days. I had a post last April about trying to get the 18+ rules changed to just flat out deny spread shots, but it didn't make a difference: https://www.modelmayhem.com/forums/post … st19971655

At this point, unless we literally had hundreds of members signing a petition or bugging the mods every day, I seriously doubt they're going to change the way the contests are done. They only changed the rules to make the regular POTD entries more strict a couple years ago because the owners of the site were trying to get apps approved. If it doesn't have the potential to make the site more money, it's very unlikely to get addressed, unfortunately.

Jan 27 23 09:13 am Link

Photographer

KenPhoto

Posts: 109

Indianapolis, Indiana, US

On a side-note, I feel like there have been more non-spread shots winning in the past couple of months. Still not the majority by any means, but take this one for example from January 10th:

https://www.modelmayhem.com/contests/po … iew/372658

And this one from January 9th:

https://www.modelmayhem.com/contests/po … iew/372613

Both only topless and more artistic images, which almost never win. I think it's great to see a variety every now and then.

Jan 27 23 11:30 am Link