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GCobb Photography

Posts: 15898

Southaven, Mississippi, US

I can't really move the Novatrons around very much or use them remotely.  Is there an affordable light someone would recommend that I can put on a tripod and use an umbrella with?  I know people use the 580ex Canon flash in that manner, I just want to see if something else is available and better, being good and portable too.

Jul 31 07 08:01 pm Link

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Mark M Gong

Posts: 358

New York, New York, US

http://strobist.blogspot.com/

Your new best friend

Jul 31 07 08:02 pm Link

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ChanStudio

Posts: 9219

Alpharetta, Georgia, US

Jul 31 07 08:12 pm Link

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BlindMike

Posts: 9594

San Francisco, California, US

ChanStudio wrote:
http://www.white-lightning.com/zeus.html

How is that considered portable?

Jul 31 07 08:13 pm Link

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R. Cervelli

Posts: 1355

Boston, Massachusetts, US

Get yourself a Alien Bees AB800 with their new Vagabond II power supply and you'll love it. Light and portable.

http://alienbees.com/

Jul 31 07 08:19 pm Link

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Mark M Gong

Posts: 358

New York, New York, US

BlindMike wrote:

How is that considered portable?

How is that considered affordable or portable?  It's $1000 for the pack and head and you still need an AC outlet.


If you want afford and portable, get yourself some used Nikon SB flashes at $100 a piece and some cheap e-bay triggers.  The whole three light setup will run you under $450.  Read the strobist comment

Jul 31 07 08:24 pm Link

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Glenn Worton

Posts: 1444

Ottawa, Ontario, Canada

I have two custom cases that will take three of my photogenic heads, three lightstands and some modifiers, together they weigh about 40 lbs, wheels make them easy to move, a third case takes a deepcycle marine battery and a 2000 w inverter for power (nearly 80 lbs !!), the battery is good for about 500 cycles with all three heads on full power, never killed it yet
These lights are the same ones that I use in my studio, so I don't have to make allowances for power output, or own a second set of lights -

Jul 31 07 08:32 pm Link

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Tommy So

Posts: 18

Glendale, California, US

Can't go wrong with Profoto 7Bs but they are a bit pricey...

Jul 31 07 08:34 pm Link

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ChanStudio

Posts: 9219

Alpharetta, Georgia, US

BlindMike wrote:
How is that considered portable?

If you can carry it, it is portable. smile

  It is pretty light weight for what it is.

Jul 31 07 08:36 pm Link

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IBX Pete

Posts: 1347

Rockingham, North Carolina, US

ChanStudio wrote:
http://www.white-lightning.com/zeus.html

Not a bad choice.

Jul 31 07 08:37 pm Link

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Brian Morris Photography

Posts: 20901

Los Angeles, California, US

Quantum

Jul 31 07 08:37 pm Link

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A Traveler

Posts: 5506

San Francisco, California, US

Profoto Acute.

Jul 31 07 08:38 pm Link

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ChanStudio

Posts: 9219

Alpharetta, Georgia, US

Tommy So wrote:
Can't go wrong with Profoto 7Bs but they are a bit pricey...

I have been thinking of Profoto a lot lately.  I need to have some cash first.

Jul 31 07 08:39 pm Link

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The Fotologist

Posts: 51

Desert View Highlands, California, US

Mark M Gong wrote:
How is that considered affordable or portable?  It's $1000 for the pack and head and you still need an AC outlet.


If you want afford and portable, get yourself some used Nikon SB flashes at $100 a piece and some cheap e-bay triggers.  The whole three light setup will run you under $450.  Read the strobist comment

??? Uh... The Vagabond is a Portable Battery Pack... no need for an outlet. Unless you mean combined with one of the Buff lights, but you just plug those into the Vagabond for power...

and there pretty dam affordable too... compared to profoto and the sorts... only thing close would be Photogenics I'm assuming...

unless i'm missing something... ? :0) don't think I am though:0)

Jul 31 07 08:40 pm Link

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Tommy So

Posts: 18

Glendale, California, US

ChanStudio wrote:

I have been thinking of Profoto a lot lately.  I need to have some cash first.

They're great.  Powerful, reliable, and durable.  There's also a great selection of modifiers and accessories.  I'm looking to get another kit but I definitely need to save up.

Jul 31 07 08:43 pm Link

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A Traveler

Posts: 5506

San Francisco, California, US

BLACKtheFotologist wrote:
??? Uh... The Vagabond is a Portable Battery Pack... no need for an outlet. Unless you mean combined with one of the Buff lights, but you just plug those into the Vagabond for power...

and there pretty dam affordable too... compared to profoto and the sorts... only thing close would be Photogenics I'm assuming...

unless i'm missing something... ? :0) don't think I am though:0)

You are missing something.

They were talking about the Zeus system, which is a pack and head system.

Jul 31 07 08:44 pm Link

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Life Is Great Images

Posts: 947

Bozeman, Montana, US

Bob Cervelli wrote:
Get yourself a Alien Bees AB800 with their new Vagabond II power supply and you'll love it. Light and portable.

http://alienbees.com/

I just did this.  It looks nice and is fun to play with.  Prompt shipping and looks like good quality.   I plan on really using it in a shoot a couple weeks from now.  Also get the remote trigger / receiver set that works well for not much money.

(I have an old White Lightning which is powerful and durable but not nearly as adjustable.)

Jul 31 07 08:47 pm Link

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Mark M Gong

Posts: 358

New York, New York, US

BLACKtheFotologist wrote:

??? Uh... The Vagabond is a Portable Battery Pack... no need for an outlet. Unless you mean combined with one of the Buff lights, but you just plug those into the Vagabond for power...

and there pretty dam affordable too... compared to profoto and the sorts... only thing close would be Photogenics I'm assuming...

unless i'm missing something... ? :0) don't think I am though:0)

You are.  The Zeus is a power pack system not a generator power packsuch as the Profoto Acutes and 7Bs.  You will still need to plug that Zeus power pack into a Vagabond.

Everyone is throwing out suggestions ranging from a few hundred to a few thousand for a portable affordable system.  Both terms are relative. 

OP, what kind of money were you planning on spending and how many lights do you want?

Jul 31 07 08:55 pm Link

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Just Shoot Me Photograp

Posts: 976

Chattanooga, Tennessee, US

Has anyone used  The Speedotron Explorer 1500 Portable Power Supply

Jul 31 07 08:59 pm Link

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ChanStudio

Posts: 9219

Alpharetta, Georgia, US

Tommy So wrote:
They're great.  Powerful, reliable, and durable.  There's also a great selection of modifiers and accessories.  I'm looking to get another kit but I definitely need to save up.

Man, stop tempting me.  My alternative is to get a portable gasoline Honda generator.

Jul 31 07 09:00 pm Link

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Kevin Connery

Posts: 17824

El Segundo, California, US

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Jul 31 07 09:03 pm Link

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schipper photo

Posts: 93

Santa Barbara, California, US

Greg Cobb wrote:
I can't really move the Novatrons around very much or use them remotely.  Is there an affordable light someone would recommend that I can put on a tripod and use an umbrella with?  I know people use the 580ex Canon flash in that manner, I just want to see if something else is available and better, being good and portable too.

I worked at Samy's camera for 4 years and researched indoor/outdoor light sources
for a while.  For outdoors, I needed a unit that was light, truly portable, put out good
light and had lightweight batteries.  The Mobilight 300 is very light compared to many
units I looked at, and the unit w/2 battery packs was under $400. from N.Y.
  I am able to carry the unit and 2 batt. packs in a hard sided bag a little larger than a
small gymbag.  Comes from JTL company.

Jul 31 07 09:06 pm Link

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There was an error

Posts: 462

Mark M Gong wrote:
http://strobist.blogspot.com/

Your new best friend

couldnt agree more.

i have a 200 w/s lumedyne kit.

super portable, i love it.

Jul 31 07 09:17 pm Link

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Arznix

Posts: 521

Vancouver, British Columbia, Canada

schipper photo wrote:
I worked at Samy's camera for 4 years and researched indoor/outdoor light sources
for a while.  For outdoors, I needed a unit that was light, truly portable, put out good
light and had lightweight batteries.  The Mobilight 300 is very light compared to many
units I looked at, and the unit w/2 battery packs was under $400. from N.Y.
  I am able to carry the unit and 2 batt. packs in a hard sided bag a little larger than a
small gymbag.  Comes from JTL company.

It looks like you got a good set of the Mobilight 300's. These reviews seem to indicate a lot of battery pack failures. Anyone else have any experience with these?

http://www.photographyreview.com/cat/fl … 36crx.aspx

Jul 31 07 09:49 pm Link

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David M Russell

Posts: 1301

New York, New York, US

Nick Zantop wrote:
Profoto Acute.

I just got an Acuteb 600 WS battery pack. Very nice.

Jul 31 07 10:11 pm Link

Photographer

GCobb Photography

Posts: 15898

Southaven, Mississippi, US

Right now, the Mobilight 300 sounds good.  It looks like there is a new battery pack out maybe.  The price is right.  I would like to have the B800, but it's a little more than I can shell out right now.  I'd like to have 2 but I can work with one for the time being.  I need to check out the other links.

Jul 31 07 10:12 pm Link

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Paul George

Posts: 122

Orangeville, Ontario, Canada

I picked up some photogenics gear for location shoots and have been very happy with them. When buying less expensive lighting you want to make sure you dont go too cheap. Most important is consistant output with a constant colour temp. Alien Bs, White Lightnings, and Photogenics are a few that do the job well.

Jul 31 07 10:22 pm Link

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Christos

Posts: 376

Scottsdale, Arizona, US

For you monolight owners out there... I suggest the DynaLite XP1100  ... No grounding rod or any BS like that. Battery life is long and recycle times are very short. Additional Batterries are cheap. I run 4 monolights and a laptop off of it with no issues or power fluxuations.

Aug 01 07 01:03 am Link

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Thyronne

Posts: 1361

Huntington Beach, California, US

I use Elinchrom monolights.  I have some 400 watt, some 500 watt, and a couple 1000watt units.  I was thinking of getting their Ranger kit, but I recently purchased an Innovatronix Explorer.  It seems to work great.

Aug 01 07 01:31 am Link

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Active Lifestyle Photo

Posts: 756

Laguna Niguel, California, US

Thyronne wrote:
I recently purchased an Innovatronix Explorer.  It seems to work great.

I bought one and returned it. I've got Hensel monolights with digital output control. Call me stupid but I didn't realize just what the hell their site meant when they said "will not work with digital output controlled lights" because I'd never even seen nor used something analog like ABs. On top of it all, I was specific about which monos I had when I ordered, so I'd have thought they'd catch it.

For anyone considering it... the Innovatronix Explorer doesn't work with Hensel Integra monolights.

Aug 01 07 01:37 am Link

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E O

Posts: 564

Aaronsburg, Pennsylvania, US

element6 wrote:

couldnt agree more.

i have a 200 w/s lumedyne kit.

super portable, i love it.

I have been accumulating lumedyne equipment at camera flea markets and on ebay and currently have:  2-heads, 2-mini batteries, 1-ac power supply, 1-200/400 pack, 1-16x16 soft box, 1-light globe (my manufacture), 1-high speed battery charger, 1-snoot and a few other items.  I have found this system suitable for full body lighting using the globe and the softbox.  The AC supply is usually used but the batteries could also be used in conjunction with the high speed charger keeping one battery ready for next use.  This system has probably cost me less than $600 (used) with batteries being the larger cost even though they see little use.

Aug 01 07 01:51 am Link

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TheLoftStudios

Posts: 973

Houston, Texas, US

I have a used Photogenic StudioMax II 320B Monolight ($200.oo) and a used Quantum Turbo Battery ($200.oo) and a very nice Bogen 12ft. Air Cusioned Stand ($75.oo).  I attach my Quantum Turbo to the Bogen stand and I have a free carrying very light, very portable outdoor lighting system that I can use with:

•Bare Bulb or Standard Parabolic Reflector
•24" Beauty Dish
•48" Octadome
•4'x6' Soft Box

I did an urban outdoor fashion shoot this past weekend with my 24" Beauty Dish and shot at a variety of Power Settings ranging from a FULL 320ws (I was getting f/8 @ 10ft away using ISO 100) down do 1/8 power.  I shot for a little over 3 hours (over 600 images) using the flash in every shot in one way or another and by the time I was finished, the Quantum Battery was down to only half it's power.  Which means I probably could have shot another 500-600 images (up to another 3 hours)

I LOVE MY SYSTEM.....

Aug 01 07 01:51 am Link

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Thyronne

Posts: 1361

Huntington Beach, California, US

capturecharacter wrote:

I bought one and returned it. I've got Hensel monolights with digital output control. Call me stupid but I didn't realize just what the hell their site meant when they said "will not work with digital output controlled lights" because I'd never even seen nor used something analog like ABs. On top of it all, I was specific about which monos I had when I ordered, so I'd have thought they'd catch it.

For anyone considering it... the Innovatronix Explorer doesn't work with Hensel Integra monolights.

Apparently they will only work on units with sliders or dials for the power settings.  My EL500s and EL1000s have sliders and it works amazing.  My 400BXs are digital and cause the unit to shut down.  Word is they're working on a unit that can handle the draw of the digital units.

Aug 01 07 01:58 am Link

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BlindMike

Posts: 9594

San Francisco, California, US

capturecharacter wrote:
I bought one and returned it. I've got Hensel monolights with digital output control. Call me stupid but I didn't realize just what the hell their site meant when they said "will not work with digital output controlled lights" because I'd never even seen nor used something analog like ABs. On top of it all, I was specific about which monos I had when I ordered, so I'd have thought they'd catch it.

For anyone considering it... the Innovatronix Explorer doesn't work with Hensel Integra monolights.

Compatibility list (good reference for checking compatibility with inverter/battery setups in general) -
http://www.innovatronix.com/compatib.asp

They probably thought you had this -
http://www.photographyreview.com/cat/fl … 36crx.aspx

Aug 01 07 02:00 am Link

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Active Lifestyle Photo

Posts: 756

Laguna Niguel, California, US

BlindMike wrote:

Compatibility list (good reference for checking compatibility with inverter/battery setups in general) -
http://www.innovatronix.com/compatib.asp

They probably thought you had this -
http://www.photographyreview.com/cat/fl … 36crx.aspx

For the record... the "Integra Pro Plus -- NO" wasn't on there when I ordered. They probably added it after I, and someone else I read about returned them :-)

Aug 01 07 02:55 am Link

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BlindMike

Posts: 9594

San Francisco, California, US

capturecharacter wrote:
For the record... the "Integra Pro Plus -- NO" wasn't on there when I ordered. They probably added it after I, and someone else I read about returned them :-)

Ah, sneaky smile

Aug 01 07 03:04 am Link

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xulian

Posts: 16

Manila, National Capital Region, Philippines

Just Shoot Me Photograp wrote:
Has anyone used  The Speedotron Explorer 1500 Portable Power Supply

My friends are using Tronix Explorer, I think it is cheaper than Speedotron.
Google it, I think you can buy it online.

Aug 01 07 03:34 am Link

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GDS Photos

Posts: 3399

London, England, United Kingdom

Go to Calumet and buy some Bowens Gemenis and the Battery Pack-  It is great, they are similar in quality to the studio versions but can fire 1500w per shot.  I Have 2 750 heads and love them.

Aug 01 07 03:36 am Link

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Tommy So

Posts: 18

Glendale, California, US

ChanStudio wrote:

Man, stop tempting me.  My alternative is to get a portable gasoline Honda generator.

That's actually not a bad alternative.  I've been thinking about doing that too.  But I'd want a Profoto 7A 2400 pack to go with it... which would actually be more money...

Aug 01 07 04:04 am Link

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R Michael Walker

Posts: 11987

Costa Mesa, California, US

Greg Cobb wrote:
I can't really move the Novatrons around very much or use them remotely.  Is there an affordable light someone would recommend that I can put on a tripod and use an umbrella with?  I know people use the 580ex Canon flash in that manner, I just want to see if something else is available and better, being good and portable too.

Define affordable. And how many lights do you want to get? On the low but great side that canon flash and a small Quantum battery to power it. Next step up would be 2 of them. After that the AB800 ring light ($400) and the Vagabond Power pack (under $400) gives you a great light source. Add a second AB monolight for backlight or BG light and you're better. I personally love the Calumet Travelites. The 750 is under $600 and they make a power pack for it for under $600. After that I'd suggest older used monolights from the higher end manufactures. Try Ebay or KEH cameras in Atlanta

Aug 01 07 04:14 am Link