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studionewmarket

Posts: 78

Youngs Point, Ontario, Canada

which one are you using, just curious?
thank you
Peter

Jan 17 08 10:50 pm Link

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Reedphoto

Posts: 557

St Catharines, Ontario, Canada

depends what your shooting...i use both!

Jan 17 08 10:55 pm Link

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Michael Caristo Photog

Posts: 342

Buda, Texas, US

studionewmarket wrote:
which one are you using, just curious?
thank you
Peter

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AdobeRGB

Jan 17 08 10:59 pm Link

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Jay Esposito

Posts: 215

Denver, Colorado, US

more is always better than less. it takes seconds to batch back to sRGB but i'd rather have the wider gamut which would give me more flexibility in the long run.

Jan 17 08 10:59 pm Link

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Michael Caristo Photog

Posts: 342

Buda, Texas, US

studionewmarket wrote:
which one are you using, just curious?
thank you
Peter

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AdobeRGB

Jan 17 08 11:00 pm Link

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Ought To Be Shot

Posts: 1887

Saint John, New Brunswick, Canada

No question... adobeRGB.

Jan 17 08 11:02 pm Link

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QuaeVide

Posts: 5295

Pacifica, California, US

Jay Esposito wrote:
more is always better than less.

The number of bits doesn't change so what you gain in width you lose in depth. (i.e., you can represent a wider range of colours, but the steps between adjacent colours increases, possibly giving banding.) If you go with a wide gamut (such as aRGB or ProPhoto) it is wise to also use 16-bit rather than 8-bit.

Jan 17 08 11:15 pm Link

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Stephen Akers

Posts: 120

San Diego, California, US

I shoot everything in AdobeRGB but switch color space to sRGB1998 when printing through a lab or creating images for web work. If you're printing through a lab or you have your own printer you need to find out what the device can handle. Typically, with labs, such as Ritz, they are printing with Fujitsu printers and the color space is sRGB so if you give them an AdobeRGB file the color space is being clipped anyway and the print will look dull or dark. For your home device it's all in what options you set up and you can print fine from AdobeRGB but again it's user options.

Jan 17 08 11:17 pm Link

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Stephen Akers

Posts: 120

San Diego, California, US

Opps!
that should have been sRGB.

Jan 17 08 11:18 pm Link

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Xeris - Dwight

Posts: 4369

Austin, Texas, US

I shoot in RAW, but at conversion time I choose ProPhoto and 16 bit.

Jan 17 08 11:20 pm Link

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Stephen T Photography

Posts: 1120

Santa Barbara, California, US

I generally edit in prophoto after shooting raw, but .... it all comes down to what your printer supports. Also for posting things on the web, the color space is different too.

Jan 17 08 11:22 pm Link

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ChristerArt

Posts: 2861

Cambridge, England, United Kingdom

studionewmarket wrote:
which one are you using, just curious?
thank you
Peter

read this:

http://www.luminous-landscape.com/tutor … -rgb.shtml

it may alter your understanding of color spaces..=*^)

However, there are a number of "I know it all" people - like Ken Rockwell, who will tell you that sRGB is all you need..

And it is if you wish to leave out a huge part of the colors available to you..

Christer

Jan 17 08 11:58 pm Link

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ChristerArt

Posts: 2861

Cambridge, England, United Kingdom

Xeris wrote:
I shoot in RAW, but at conversion time I choose ProPhoto and 16 bit.

The true test of a man's intelligence is how much he agrees with you..

You must be very smart as I work the same way...=*^)

Christer

Jan 17 08 11:59 pm Link

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Mike Kelcher

Posts: 13322

Minneapolis, Minnesota, US

I shoot in RAW+Jpeg. For the benefit of the JPEG images, I shoot in sRGB. Once a RAW images is sucked into Photoshop, I edit in Adobe RGB and leave it that way.

Jan 18 08 12:01 am Link

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ChanStudio

Posts: 9219

Alpharetta, Georgia, US

AdobeRGB (16 bits) but if I have a choice of 32 bits?  I would use 32 bits.

Jan 18 08 12:01 am Link

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Thyronne

Posts: 1361

Huntington Beach, California, US

AdobeRGB for shooting and printing, sRGB for web

Jan 18 08 12:05 am Link

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Fred Brown Photo

Posts: 1302

Chicago, Illinois, US

Thyronne wrote:
AdobeRGB for shooting and printing, sRGB for web

Ditto. Color space works well when used where it is intended to be used!

Jan 18 08 12:17 am Link

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Michael DBA Expressions

Posts: 3731

Lynchburg, Virginia, US

The OPs question is a bit like "do you use the Ferrari or the F150?" Depends upon whether I'm takin' the babe out for a picnic or hauling a load of firewood.

I'd like him to flesh that question out a bit before I try to answer him, wouldn't you?

The most common interpretation of his intent is "what space do you shoot in." Alternatives would be "what space do you work in" or "what space do you output to."

In my case, I shoot RAW+JPG most of the time, and when importing to PS, turn 'em into ProPhoto and 16 bit. They often wind up in sRGB at print time, and certainly when posted to the web. The JPGs from RAW+ are assigned Adobe by the camera, which better fits the actual sensor abilities.

Jan 18 08 09:02 am Link

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Soft Imaging

Posts: 65

Kitchener, Ontario, Canada

Most camera are defaulted to sRGB  because it looks good on monitors and TVs.

Adobe RGB is a wider colour spectrum. -- better for printing --  I only use that.

Jan 18 08 09:05 am Link

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Jeff Fiore

Posts: 9225

Brooklyn, New York, US

I shoot sRGB when I'm shooting B&W which is about 90% of the time.

Jan 18 08 09:15 am Link

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Michael Bates

Posts: 1554

Austin, Texas, US

Shoot in Adobe RGB. Use Adobe RGB for prints (much wider color gamut). Convert to sRGB for web use (colors pop more).

Michael

Jan 18 08 09:17 am Link

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Bil Brown

Posts: 2170

Los Angeles, California, US

Ought To Be Shot wrote:
No question... adobeRGB.

Ditto.

You can always convert to sRGB. Why start off with a low end option??

Jan 18 08 09:27 am Link

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Studio Allure

Posts: 2186

Columbus, Ohio, US

Not to cut off the OP, but wouldn't it be a little backwards to change from a lower color space to a higher color space. Say from sRGB to Adobe RGB?

Jan 18 08 09:30 am Link

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Imagemakersphoto

Posts: 786

Saint Paul, Minnesota, US

Xeris wrote:
I shoot in RAW, but at conversion time I choose ProPhoto and 16 bit.

Me to. Here is some info on color space.

http://www.brucelindbloom.com/index.htm … eInfo.html

Jan 18 08 09:43 am Link

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Imagemakersphoto

Posts: 786

Saint Paul, Minnesota, US

No edit button

About 3/4ths down on the page is an interactive 3D Gamut Viewer. You put in your color spaces and it makes a 3D cube of color spaces.

Jan 18 08 09:47 am Link

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Christopher Hartman

Posts: 54196

Buena Park, California, US

studionewmarket wrote:
which one are you using, just curious?
thank you
Peter

sRGB

Jan 18 08 12:15 pm Link

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Christopher Hartman

Posts: 54196

Buena Park, California, US

ChristerArt wrote:

read this:

http://www.luminous-landscape.com/tutor … -rgb.shtml

it may alter your understanding of color spaces..=*^)

However, there are a number of "I know it all" people - like Ken Rockwell, who will tell you that sRGB is all you need..

And it is if you wish to leave out a huge part of the colors available to you..

Christer

sRGB IS all that *I* need.  AdobeRGB's colors are flat and boring.

For MY work.  Your results may be different.

Jan 18 08 12:19 pm Link

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Corey Ward

Posts: 2479

Austin, Texas, US

I shoot RAW, edit in either ProPhoto or AdobeRGB in 16-bit. Lightroom converts to sRGB for the web when I export.

Jan 18 08 12:20 pm Link

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Jason Haven

Posts: 38381

Washington, District of Columbia, US

I shoot raw, final image is sRGB since I output to printers with a similar gamut.

Jan 18 08 12:31 pm Link

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Night Light Images

Posts: 933

Tulsa, Oklahoma, US

I shoot in adobeRGB and shoot Raw.

I set photoshop to printer specifications.  If I am doing the printing I set the work area to the icc profile for the paper and printer I am using.  The lab I work with locally provided me with their icc profile.

Jan 18 08 02:10 pm Link

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Blind Monkey Prod

Posts: 108

Dallas, Texas, US

I always shoot in Adobe RGB, 16bit RAW format.  Retouch, and then convert to srgb, 8bit jpg.  Far less data loss this way.

Jan 18 08 02:16 pm Link

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rudy k

Posts: 246

Washington, Arkansas, US

Raw using ProPhoto RGB in 16 bit for printing converted into Adobe RGB and for web display converted into Srgb

Jan 18 08 03:34 pm Link

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LeWhite

Posts: 2038

Los Angeles, California, US

I shoot in treshold : process in 32 bit / channel HDR .WORKS FOR ME.

Jan 18 08 03:55 pm Link

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bodyNsoul Photography

Posts: 17

Paramaribo, Paramaribo, Suriname

I shoot in AdobeRGB1998 in RAW, use Lightroom for management, so output for web I convert to sRGB

Jan 18 08 05:36 pm Link

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Downtown Pro Photo

Posts: 1606

Crystal Lake, Illinois, US

There is no one perfect for all uses color space.  If your end product is to post online or send it to a lab that will print it on a halide based paper then it should be in sRGB since that is the space best suited for those.
If all you want to do is look at it in photoshop or another program that can utilize the adobe or pro RGB spaces with 16 bit then use those spaces.  The only printer I have come across that does a great job with those spaces and bit depth is the Z series from HP. 
If someone sends me a file in those spaces and bits, then they have to tell me up front so that I can set the HP printer preferences for that. Other wise it's a total disaster of a final print.  If they want a halide print from our other printers, then it has to be converted to 8 bit since that is the only thing they can understand.  And if it's in any other space besides sRGB then the colors will suffer due to the interpretation by the software.
Not meaning to dodge an answer, but it all depends on what the end product will be.

Jan 18 08 06:47 pm Link

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Kent Johnson Photograph

Posts: 1713

Sydney, New South Wales, Australia

Raw to sRGB, My lab uses it, the net uses it, why bother with a colour space you can never (in my instance) reproduce...

Jan 18 08 07:14 pm Link

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Papa Vic Photography

Posts: 8211

Glendale, Arizona, US

AdobeRGB

it just looks better
big_smile

Jan 18 08 07:19 pm Link

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Papa Vic Photography

Posts: 8211

Glendale, Arizona, US

Downtown Pro Photo wrote:
There is no one perfect for all uses color space.  If your end product is to post online or send it to a lab that will print it on a halide based paper then it should be in sRGB since that is the space best suited for those.
If all you want to do is look at it in photoshop or another program that can utilize the adobe or pro RGB spaces with 16 bit then use those spaces.  The only printer I have come across that does a great job with those spaces and bit depth is the Z series from HP. 
If someone sends me a file in those spaces and bits, then they have to tell me up front so that I can set the HP printer preferences for that. Other wise it's a total disaster of a final print.  If they want a halide print from our other printers, then it has to be converted to 8 bit since that is the only thing they can understand.  And if it's in any other space besides sRGB then the colors will suffer due to the interpretation by the software.
Not meaning to dodge an answer, but it all depends on what the end product will be.

I don't print much but the 8x10 landscape came out true to what my monitor shows.

But what I know about gallery-quality printing is ...nothing

Jan 18 08 07:22 pm Link

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PhotoDr

Posts: 918

Chantilly, Virginia, US

Xeris wrote:
I shoot in RAW, but at conversion time I choose ProPhoto and 16 bit.

Ditto

Jan 18 08 07:54 pm Link

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PhotoDr

Posts: 918

Chantilly, Virginia, US

Xeris wrote:
I shoot in RAW, but at conversion time I choose ProPhoto and 16 bit.

PhotoDr wrote:
Ditto

Hmmm.. edit button gone again.


To expand on this, RAW -> ProPhoto/16.  ALWAYS edit fron the best available source, reduce at time of output ONLY.

Jan 18 08 08:03 pm Link