Orca Bay Images wrote:
An invitation to a thread?

Is this really necessary?

Is that other thread really necessary?

It's a serious discussion about a serious problem, and the more people who participate the better.

Orca Bay Images wrote:
No, Troll, let's not.

You clearly don't care about the safety of young women from peril.

Fashion Photographer wrote:

You clearly don't care about the safety of young women from peril.

QFM.

Orca Bay Images wrote:
An invitation to a thread?

Is this really necessary?

Is that other thread really necessary?

this

Orca Bay Images wrote:
QFM.

Your mother was a hamster and your father smells of elderberries!

Emma - O wrote:
Is this for real? Your thread got locked, AND you started a thread in another forum PURELY to get traffic to your original thread.

Mind = blown.

Young lady, I hope you always take a strong escort with you.

Fashion Photographer wrote:
I have started insisting that every woman bring an escort to shoot with a photographer - it's the right thing to do!

to that i would suggest the woman bring an actual photographer.  then all parties can learn the right thing to do.

Fashion Photographer wrote:
In a world of weapons, cameras, and foreigners, danger lurks everywhere.  It behoves us to protect the young women who would fall victim to it, by setting an example. We ought to insist that they take with them a full escort to every photo shoot.

I have started insisting that every woman bring an escort to shoot with a photographer - it's the right thing to do!

If a photographer doesn't allow escorts, he's up to no good.

Tish and pish, gadzooks, milarky. How dare you say such a thing! Demme, sir, if you're not the worst kind of swine!

Orca Bay Images wrote:
An invitation to a thread?

Is this really necessary?

Is that other thread really necessary?

Lol.

Ok no seriously OP.
A woman can take care of herself. She just needs to use her wits when working with other people.
Also I love how this is about female models not male? What about the guys? Also what about the FEMALE photographers running into male models whom might attack them? Or a guy getting attacked by someone?
Just saying this can go MM MF FM FF...

So this is my advice to models.
Take a class in self defense. I'm being serious. Take it because you should have some idea of how to protect your self if a situation comes up.

Be smart use your brain. When talking or emailing a new photographer/model about a job look for red flags and follow your gut on your choices. Also this applies to other things. For me when I go someplace new I am always looking for a few things. : Where are the exits, just incase something happens? What can I use to defend myself? Where is my cell phone located or packed in or the house/studio phones located? How close am I to other people so that if I have to scream, will they hear me?

Make sure my husband or close friend knows the address of the place I will be @ also how long I plan on staying.

I think about these things with out ever thinking about having a hand gun on me or peper spray, THIS IS NOT A GOOD IDEA. Just because you own a gun and take it to shoot doesn't mean you can't have that gun turned around on you and be used on you.

If you get to a shoot and feel threaten at all at any time during the shoot, leave. It is better to have a bad mouthing photographer/model then to have your life in danger.

Michael Kountz wrote:
I usually just slip the escort a roofy.  Then the model gets all embarrassed by his behavior that she never wants to bring one again.  Or she takes advantage of him.  Which is cool, too.

Shit like this is why I never take drinks or food from photographers I work with for the first time...
okay who the fuck am I kidding if someone is offering me free non pork or red meat food I'm all in!

Bella la Bell wrote:
Lol.

Ok no seriously OP.
A woman can take care of herself. She just needs to use her wits when working with other people.
Also I love how this is about female models not male? What about the guys? Also what about the FEMALE photographers running into male models whom might attack them? Or a guy getting attacked by someone?
Just saying this can go MM MF FM FF...

So this is my advice to models.
Take a class in self defense. I'm being serious. Take it because you should have some idea of how to protect your self if a situation comes up.

Be smart use your brain. When talking or emailing a new photographer/model about a job look for red flags and follow your gut on your choices. Also this applies to other things. For me when I go someplace new I am always looking for a few things. : Where are the exits, just incase something happens? What can I use to defend myself? Where is my cell phone located or packed in or the house/studio phones located? How close am I to other people so that if I have to scream, will they hear me?

Make sure my husband or close friend knows the address of the place I will be @ also how long I plan on staying.

I think about these things with out ever thinking about having a hand gun on me or peper spray, THIS IS NOT A GOOD IDEA. Just because you own a gun and take it to shoot doesn't mean you can't have that gun turned around on you and be used on you.

If you get to a shoot and feel threaten at all at any time during the shoot, leave. It is better to have a bad mouthing photographer/model then to have your life in danger.

Always let your husband know where you are, so that he can come rescue you if necessary. Pepper spray can't help you if you are locked in a tower, guarded by a dragon!

Miss Rachel Elizabeth wrote:
If i feel i need an escort i dont go, simple as

so well put!

Fashion Photographer wrote:

Always let your husband know where you are, so that he can come rescue you if necessary. Pepper spray can't help you if you are locked in a tower, guarded by a dragon!

ACPhotography wrote:
I'm partially disabled from a car accident, do I need to bring an escort to every shoot to for my protection?

Strong, healthy, able men are victimized every single day.

Fashion Photographer wrote:
Always let your husband know where you are, so that he can come rescue you if necessary. Pepper spray can't help you if you are locked in a tower, guarded by a dragon!

with a mind that works like that i would suggest to models to run away from you.  not even an escort will save them.

go onward sancho panza.  there are pictures of windmills to take.

Orca Bay Images wrote:
QFM.

Quantum Fuckery Moment?

291 wrote:

with a mind that works like that i would suggest to models to run away from you.  not even an escort will save them.

go onward sancho panza.  there are pictures of windmills to take.

Bella la Bell wrote:
Shit like this is why I never take drinks or food from photographers I work with for the first time...
okay who the fuck am I kidding if someone is offering me free non pork or red meat food I'm all in!

Ahh...my bacon and scrapple are safe.

Kelli wrote:
Strong, healthy, able men are victimized every single day.

Yep!

Fashion Photographer wrote:
You clearly don't care about the safety of young women from peril.

I care about the safety of young women everywhere.  However, when/if they shoot with me, they are in no danger of anything happening ... at least I won't do anything to harm them physically or emotionally (unless they're so fragile that saying hello will damage them).  No escort is necessary.  If they want to bring one, they are welcome to do it, especially if the escort won't disrupt the shoot.

  I won't insist they bring someone, though.

ETA:  IBTL

Fashion Photographer wrote:
In a world of weapons, cameras, and foreigners, danger lurks everywhere.  It behoves us to protect the young women who would fall victim to it, by setting an example. We ought to insist that they take with them a full escort to every photo shoot.

I have started insisting that every woman bring an escort to shoot with a photographer - it's the right thing to do!

If a photographer doesn't allow escorts, he's up to no good.

You know there are stories about llamas

Fashion Photographer wrote:

Young lady, I hope you always take a strong escort with you.

I'll be your escort!!  You'll never need another when you have me!

Robert Helm wrote:
They are free to bring an escort as long as they pay for my armed security.

dont be silly!

F Escort wrote:

I'll be your escort!!  You'll never need another when you have me!

This may be, the most epic post and profile ever on MM. 




Amen.           x2 borats!

F Escort wrote:
I'll be your escort!!  You'll never need another when you have me!

What I wouldn't do to your camshaft...  Ride you hard, mile after mile, stopping only to fill your tank again...OH!  You're a guy?!?   This never happened.