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Digital Plus Photo

Posts: 685

Washington, Illinois, US

I used this to search for wireless remotes in photography forum but didn't find anything.
I was wondering if anyone has used any of those remotes from China and do they work OK. They are very cheap and that is a plus.
Anyone have any information that could help.

Please

Jan 28 08 10:38 am Link

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Dave the Rave TM

Posts: 9

Keighley, England, United Kingdom

I've been using one for the past 8 months, no trouble at all here smile

Jan 28 08 10:40 am Link

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StevenDJ

Posts: 191

Holland, Michigan, US

I bought two sets, modfied one transmitter with an antenna to get a greater distance. Modified one receiver to use with my photogenic lights. No problems.

Jan 28 08 10:47 am Link

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Digital Plus Photo

Posts: 685

Washington, Illinois, US

Did you have any problems getting batteries for them?
Are they pretty much plug and use remotes. What modifications were needed to use with studio lights?

Jan 28 08 10:50 am Link

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Newcomb Photography

Posts: 728

Tampa, Florida, US

Dig. Plus Photo wrote:
Did you have any problems getting batteries for them?
Are they pretty much plug and use remotes. What modifications were needed to use with studio lights?

No, yes, none.  It would help if you stated what lights you.  There are a few different versions of China-made wireless transmitters on the market.

Jan 28 08 10:54 am Link

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studionewmarket

Posts: 78

Youngs Point, Ontario, Canada

I have one of those, they use regular batteries, have been using it for about 10 month now. Overall happy with what I got for $15, the issue I have is that it doesn't sync well at 1/250 (had first replaced by another, customer service was helpfull), but both sync only up to 1/200.
Peter
www.studionewmarket.com

Jan 28 08 10:54 am Link

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Exposure On Whyte

Posts: 230

Edmonton, Alberta, Canada

I have one, I think it is called "little baby trigger", comes in a yellow box.
It works ok, the price was great.  I may have to modify it to get better distance, had lots of no fires on the weekend, mostly when the strobe was to the side behind me so the little eye was blocked.  I will try better batteries in it first though (AAA)

I have heard that there are different names or boxes that this one is being sold under for more money, but it is exactly the same.

S

Jan 28 08 10:56 am Link

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JSVPhotography

Posts: 4897

Madison, Wisconsin, US

I've been using them for a couple of years... the cheapo versions. They work fine. You might want to look for the ones that have different frequency settings if you plan to shoot around people that are using similar devices.

Jan 28 08 10:57 am Link

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Mark Anderson

Posts: 2472

Atlanta, Georgia, US

I have a set for my travel lights and they work fine.  Not good at a distance but that's about it.

Jan 28 08 10:58 am Link

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Bonita Photography

Posts: 402

Bonita, California, US

Anyone know the name of these remotes?  Or a link to where they are sold?  Thanks Kevin

Jan 28 08 10:59 am Link

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Curt at photoworks

Posts: 31812

Riverside, California, US

I wonder if you guys are talking about the same devices.

Jan 28 08 11:00 am Link

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ward

Posts: 6142

Toronto, Ontario, Canada

I've had three sets. I burnt out the first one, smashed the second one shooting on location, and my new one is still going strong.

Jan 28 08 11:01 am Link

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Pro-Retouch

Posts: 61

http://cgi.ebay.com/2-Channel-Radio-Sla … dZViewItem

that's what I have, syncs up to 1/200

Jan 28 08 11:06 am Link

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American Glamour

Posts: 38813

Detroit, Michigan, US

ward wrote:
I've had three sets. I burnt out the first one, smashed the second one shooting on location, and my new one is still going strong.

I own pocket wizards but use my China kaka's most of the time.  It is for just the reason you have listed.  If I break them I don't care.  I can buy another set for $25.

They are reliable and cheap.  My only complaint is that I can't trigger them with my Sekonic meter in the studio when I set up my lights, but oh well.

Jan 28 08 11:14 am Link

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American Glamour

Posts: 38813

Detroit, Michigan, US

Pro-Retouch wrote:
that's what I have, syncs up to 1/200

I sync up to 1/500th with them when I use my D70 to shoot (I have more than one camera).  I have sync'ed up in my friend's studio at that speed with his Alien Bees as well.

When I put on the Pocket Wizards and try to sync to the Alien Bees, I have to dial down to 1/200th.  I can sync at 1/500th with the Wizards, my D70 and my Photogenics.  With the Bees though, 1/200th is the sync de jour unless I use my cheap Chinese triggers.

Jan 28 08 11:16 am Link

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Hillwoman2

Posts: 1018

Alexandria, Virginia, US

The ones I had ate through batteries. I had to replace the batteries every 2nd or 3rd shoot. It took me a while to figure out - I would keep lowering and lowering my sync speed to get them to work until I realized it was the batteries. It drove me nuts.

Jan 28 08 11:18 am Link

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Silver Mirage

Posts: 1585

Plainview, Texas, US

I have used mine for a couple of years now. That same model is no longer available, but from what I read in the forums the newer ones are better. There are extensive discussions at dpreview.com and strobist.com.

My experience is that if you can find a channel free of radio interference they work very well. I have had a few place where I had problems -- once directly under a radio transmission tower, once very near a bank of electrical transformers -- beyond that I have never had to do more than change channels or shift the position of the receiver on the lightstand.

Someone mentioned sync speed. Any radio transmitter I know of will cause a slight delay in the flash because of the time it takes to send the signal, so you may lose one step off your top sync speed. You will have to test this with your own setup to be sure.

Jan 28 08 11:20 am Link

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Earth Bound Art

Posts: 1317

Lake Wylie, South Carolina, US

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/3 … Radio.html
This is what I use, Micro Sync Digital. Works great smile

Jan 28 08 11:21 am Link

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ward

Posts: 6142

Toronto, Ontario, Canada

Alan from Aavian Prod wrote:
My only complaint is that I can't trigger them with my Sekonic meter in the studio when I set up my lights, but oh well.

That's odd. I have the Minolta V and they work well with both Cord and non-Cord. I agree. They're cheap. And if you smash one, you can easily buy another. Can't do that as easily with the Wizards. smile

Jan 28 08 11:23 am Link

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Pro-Retouch

Posts: 61

Alan from Aavian Prod wrote:

I sync up to 1/500th with them when I use my D70 to shoot (I have more than one camera).  I have sync'ed up in my friend's studio at that speed with his Alien Bees as well.

When I put on the Pocket Wizards and try to sync to the Alien Bees, I have to dial down to 1/200th.  I can sync at 1/500th with the Wizards, my D70 and my Photogenics.  With the Bees though, 1/200th is the sync de jour unless I use my cheap Chinese triggers.

well there you go, maybe we should pet them before we use them, they all seem to have personalities of their own lol

my AB syncs with my canon 350d up to 1/200 with this trigger, up to 1/250 with sync cord. Haven't tried PW yet.
Peter

Jan 28 08 11:30 am Link

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Visionary Studio One

Posts: 703

Grand Prairie, Texas, US

I also bought a 16 channel, $19.99 wireless setup off ebay.  Has worked flawlessly except...
At a fashion show, there were videographers there, one right next to me. They were using somekind of wireless communication between them that seemed to "false trigger" my strobe.  So luckily I had my sync cable with me and had to "hard-wire" to the strobe.  Just one of those things I guess..

Jan 28 08 12:12 pm Link

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photodorset

Posts: 845

Bournemouth, England, United Kingdom

I used some and the guy who owned the studio said he found them wore reliable than expensive ones. He did tell me they unlocked a guy's car once!

Jan 28 08 12:16 pm Link

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Stan Orlob Photography

Posts: 163

Salt Lake City, Utah, US

Bonita Photography wrote:
Anyone know the name of these remotes?  Or a link to where they are sold?  Thanks Kevin

Try E-Bay search for remote slave

Jan 28 08 12:24 pm Link

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L Cowles Photography

Posts: 833

Sun City West, Arizona, US

I have several sets of the 16 chan. units and they have worked very well for almost a year.  As others have stated, they can false fire with interferance from other devices.  I've had a couple of models use their cell phones near the units and would cause false fire.

For the price, you can live with a few of their falts.

They have the large 1/4 inch phono plug that will fit into most mono lights.  If your flash takes something else, you can build a cord to convert.  I have even used them on my Nikon SB 600/800 units with a short sync cord pluged into the two units.

Jan 28 08 12:25 pm Link

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Enon Orez

Posts: 141

Miami, Florida, US

I use the 16 channel ones I got off Ebay, less than $30.00 with shipping and they work fine.

Jan 28 08 12:29 pm Link

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Kevin Connery

Posts: 17824

El Segundo, California, US

Dig. Plus Photo wrote:
I used this to search for wireless remotes in photography forum but didn't find anything.
I was wondering if anyone has used any of those remotes from China and do they work OK. They are very cheap and that is a plus.

No experience with the cheap remotes. PocketWizards have been quite reliable.

See also:

Sync Cords and Remote Triggers

* Is that a wizard in your pocket or..... (Wireless options)
* economical solution for wifi trigger (Inexpensive wireless options)
* Pocket Wizard confusion..
* More than one Speedlight on one Pocket Wizard
* For those using the Cactus V2's triggers


See the Lighting, Flash, Ring, & Battery Strobe Reference thread for links to other articles and discussions.

Jan 28 08 12:30 pm Link

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Neil Boyd

Posts: 6

Raleigh, North Carolina, US

We use pocket Wizards - the Industry standard and a great product. You can have chips put straight into your flash meter and some cameras. Much more reliable and flexible than others I've used.

Neil

Jan 28 08 12:34 pm Link

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Tom Brooks

Posts: 1444

Toledo, Ohio, US

I have the cheapies from China but they are the pass-through ones so I don't need batteries for the receivers.  If you get some, get the receivers that don't require batteries, much less hassle.  ebay has them all over the place.

Jan 28 08 12:35 pm Link

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robb albrecht

Posts: 498

Baywood-Los Osos, California, US

Earth Bound Art wrote:
http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/374387-REG/MicroSync_VMTRH_Digital_4_Channel_Radio.html
This is what I use, Micro Sync Digital. Works great smile

That's the setup I was interested in until I found that it doesn't support the D70. WTF???

*edit
Just got an email from the company saying they will fire a remote flash but not trigger the shutter on a D70.

Jan 28 08 12:38 pm Link

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Doug Harvey

Posts: 1055

Las Vegas, Nevada, US

Bees...Cheap and will take a beating...

I've had one transmitter and four receivers for a little over 1-1/2 years with no issues and they have been through a lot.

Jan 28 08 12:46 pm Link

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Rp-photo

Posts: 42711

Houston, Texas, US

photodorset wrote:
I used some and the guy who owned the studio said he found them wore reliable than expensive ones. He did tell me they unlocked a guy's car once!

The similarity between a car remote and the transmitters for the Ebay slaves is undeniable.

These slaves are likely derived from car remotes and therefore use the same frequency ranges, thus the unlocking.

Higher-end slaves like PW's use less-congested frequency ranges while the cheap ones use frequencies also used by other wireless devices.

Jan 28 08 02:05 pm Link

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Rp-photo

Posts: 42711

Houston, Texas, US

Doug Harvey wrote:
Bees...Cheap and will take a beating...

I've had one transmitter and four receivers for a little over 1-1/2 years with no issues and they have been through a lot.

Only drawback with those is 120 VAC receiver power, making them of limited value to strobists.

Jan 28 08 02:07 pm Link

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L Cowles Photography

Posts: 833

Sun City West, Arizona, US

I really think it all boils down to this.  If you are on a shoestring budget or just starting out, the Chinese units work just fine and hundreds of photographers on MM are using them with good luck.

If you got the bucks or in a situation where you can't have a false trigger, go for the Pocket Wizard.  They really will take a beating and will be less prone to a false trigger.

Jan 28 08 02:11 pm Link

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Tito Trelles-MADE IN NY

Posts: 960

Miami, Florida, US

L Cowles Photography wrote:
I really think it all boils down to this.  If you are on a shoestring budget or just starting out, the Chinese units work just fine and hundreds of photographers on MM are using them with good luck.

If you got the bucks or in a situation where you can't have a false trigger, go for the Pocket Wizard.  They really will take a beating and will be less prone to a false trigger.

I totally agree.T

Jan 28 08 02:17 pm Link

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Rp-photo

Posts: 42711

Houston, Texas, US

L Cowles Photography wrote:
If you got the bucks or in a situation where you can't have a false trigger, go for the Pocket Wizard.  They really will take a beating and will be less prone to a false trigger.

The construction of a PW does not suggest it could take much of a beating.

Jan 28 08 02:41 pm Link