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El Pollo Photography
Posts: 35
Orlando, Florida, US
Is this a general term or would this depend of each model? Is just that I have some model that say: I don't do nude, but I'm ok with imply. Then I visit the model's port and I see what I consider nude. So, how would you define it? How is onw different from the other? E.P. PS: Please don't give me the ask the model cr...
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StephenEastwood
Posts: 19585
Great Neck, New York, US
the model appears to be nude but the image shows nothing that would be considered no no parts. The model may in fact be nude or not depending, they are generally nude however. Its also a means for a "GWC" to say to a model who does not get naked for pictures, "I don't want to shoot nude photos of you, I just want to see you nude! but will take great care to not get it in the shot" Stephen Eastwood http://www.StephenEastwood.com
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KevinMichaelReed
Posts: 1554
New York, New York, US
StephenEastwood wrote: Its also a means for a "GWC" to say to a model who does not get naked for pictures, "I don't want to shoot you nude, I just want to see you nude! but will take great care to not get it in the shot" LOL
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Ghaleon
Posts: 157
San Francisco, California, US
I am new at Model Mayhem too. However, it seems that if you are naked and are covering your penis or your breasts with your hands or some other object it is called "implied nude." That also seemed like nude to me until I came here. I might be wrong, of course.
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KevinMichaelReed
Posts: 1554
New York, New York, US
StephenEastwood wrote: What???? I think its in wikapedia?? I swear!!! No, you're SO right!!!
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Steve Anderson
Posts: 547
Los Angeles, California, US
StephenEastwood wrote: the model appears to be nude but the image shows nothing that would be considered no no parts. The model may in fact be nude or not depending, they are generally nude however. Its also a means for a "GWC" to say to a model who does not get naked for pictures, "I don't want to shoot nude photos of you, I just want to see you nude! but will take great care to not get it in the shot" Stephen Eastwood http://www.StephenEastwood.com Love it!
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Steve Anderson
Posts: 547
Los Angeles, California, US
Ghaleon wrote: I am new at Model Mayhem too. However, it seems that if you are naked and are covering your penis or your breasts with your hands or some other object it is called "implied nude." That also seemed like nude to me until I came here. I might be wrong, of course. Naked to me too. No such thing as implied in my vocabulary. Either I'm shooting you nude or not. If naughty parts are covered it's because I like it that way.
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StephenEastwood
Posts: 19585
Great Neck, New York, US
KevinMichaelReed wrote: No, you're SO right!!! Why do some people get so offended by that at times???? and than you wonder what made them get that offended Amazes me. I think I am going to have a section to teach these tricks on my "how to be a sleaze but come across as an artist dvd " Stephen Eastwood http://www.StephenEastwood.com
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El Pollo Photography
Posts: 35
Orlando, Florida, US
StephenEastwood wrote: the model appears to be nude but the image shows nothing that would be considered no no parts. "no no parts" = Genitalia ?
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Michael DBA Expressions
Posts: 3731
Lynchburg, Virginia, US
implied nude: (1) (as stated above) model looks naked, and probably was to get into position, but has "the goods" covered by SOMETHING so as to not be visible in the photograph; (2) weasel words for those who want to appear bolder than they are.
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CN Studios
Posts: 1917
Brooklyn, New York, US
StephenEastwood wrote:
Why do some people get so offended by that at times???? and than you wonder what made them get that offended Amazes me. I think I am going to have a section to teach these tricks on my "how to be a sleaze but come across as an artist dvd " Stephen Eastwood http://www.StephenEastwood.com You have me sold.
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Art Blanche
Posts: 116
Chicago, Illinois, US
"Implied nude" is a term models use to define "nudes with limits". What is not included usually in an implied nude is full-frontal nudity, brightly-lit nudity, closeups of the most private ares, erotic shots... (all subject to the model, of course). Models are usually fully nude, but want something left to the imagination of the viewer. There are cases where models believe that they can leave clothing on that the photographer will retouch out later, but in my opinion these requests aren't worth the extra time to do so, and waste everyones time.
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StephenEastwood
Posts: 19585
Great Neck, New York, US
El Pollo Photography wrote: "no no parts" = Genitalia ? breast, or should I say nipples or areola, Pubic hair from any region, penis, labia majora, vagina (kind of hard to see but some photographers have made an art of the macro lens usage here) and for some buttocks! Stephen Eastwood http://www.StephenEastwood.com
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El Pollo Photography
Posts: 35
Orlando, Florida, US
artblanche wrote: "Implied nude" is a term models use to define "nudes with limits". What is not included usually in an implied nude is full-frontal nudity, brightly-lit nudity, closeups of the most private ares, erotic shots... (all subject to the model, of course). Models are usually fully nude, but want something left to the imagination of the viewer. There are cases where models believe that they can leave clothing on that the photographer will retouch out later, but in my opinion these requests aren't worth the extra time to do so, and waste everyones time. artblanche: Them: Is your avatar imply? What about mine?
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Art Blanche
Posts: 116
Chicago, Illinois, US
El Pollo Photography wrote:
artblanche: Them: Is your avatar imply? What about mine? Yes, I'd have to say that your avatar and mine are both "implied".
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Jacquelyne Marie
Posts: 116
Orange, California, US
i think it depends on individual models. I've been asked countless times what i consider "implied" and honestly i cant give a flat answer because it also depends on how comfortable i feel with the photographer. but i would figure it falls more along the line of not showing the entirety of the "goodies" haha
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CN Studios
Posts: 1917
Brooklyn, New York, US
El Pollo Photography wrote: artblanche: Them: Is your avatar imply? What about mine? I don't consider yours implied. She is just nude. You just don't see anything. I think implied just...gives the illusion of being nude. I would say this is implied... correct me if I'm wrong? ^^ Gorgeous.
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StephenEastwood
Posts: 19585
Great Neck, New York, US
El Pollo Photography wrote:
Seriously man, I'm already all confuse just with my broken English (Habla espanol, lol) Sorry, yes it is an implied. Stephen Eastwood http://www.StephenEastwood.com
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StephenEastwood
Posts: 19585
Great Neck, New York, US
C Nguyen Photo wrote: I don't consider yours implied. She is just nude. You just don't see anything. I think implied just...gives the illusion of being nude. I would say this is implied... correct me if I'm wrong? ^^ Gorgeous. Yes its implied. And if she were not listed here I woudl have some seedy GWCC comment to make Stephen Eastwood http://www.StephenEastwood.com
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Giles Clement
Posts: 2
Nashville, Tennessee, US
what a daft conversation.
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foxfire images
Posts: 977
Northfield, Vermont, US
StephenEastwood wrote:
Why do some people get so offended by that at times???? and than you wonder what made them get that offended Amazes me. I think I am going to have a section to teach these tricks on my "how to be a sleaze but come across as an artist dvd " Stephen Eastwood http://www.StephenEastwood.com can i be featured in it
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CN Studios
Posts: 1917
Brooklyn, New York, US
StephenEastwood wrote:
Yes its implied. And if she were not listed here I woudl have some seedy GWCC comment to make Stephen Eastwood http://www.StephenEastwood.com You should make it anyway =P
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Art Blanche
Posts: 116
Chicago, Illinois, US
C Nguyen Photo wrote:
I don't consider yours implied. She is just nude. You just don't see anything. I think implied just...gives the illusion of being nude. I would say this is implied... correct me if I'm wrong? https://modelmayhem.com/pic.php?pid=4456839 ^^ Gorgeous. I'd have to disagree. This model could actually be wearing a full dress and heels for all we know. A bare shoulder or leg does not imply nudity to me. In fact, if a model thought she could show a little shoulder when booking an implied nude shoot, she would be completely be wrong in my opinion.
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CN Studios
Posts: 1917
Brooklyn, New York, US
artblanche wrote:
I'd have to disagree. This model could actually be wearing a full dress and heels for all we know. A bare shoulder or leg does not imply nudity to me. In fact, if a model thought she could show a little shoulder when booking an implied nude shoot, she would be completely be wrong in my opinion. Oh now I feel prudish for thinking a little leg is implied, hehe.
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StephenEastwood
Posts: 19585
Great Neck, New York, US
artblanche wrote: Yes, I'd have to say that your avatar and mine are both "implied". I would say the OP is not implied I am seeing too much of what I should only see when the plumber is fixing the sink or the contractor is walking around the house, for it too be implied. Stephen Eastwood http://www.StephenEastwood.com
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Doug Lester
Posts: 10591
Atlanta, Georgia, US
Traditionally the term means the shot shows the model in a way in which she appears to be, the nudity is implied, but the viewer can not really tell whether she or he is actually nude. Another related term which is often not used on the forums, is covered nude. In a covered nude, the model is obviously nude, but the 'parts' are covered so that they can not be seen in the photo. This is an example of an implied nude. This is a covered nude.
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StephenEastwood
Posts: 19585
Great Neck, New York, US
C Nguyen Photo wrote: Oh now I feel prudish for thinking a little leg is implied, hehe. It is implied, I looked and can easily see that she may well be naked and in fact I would want to think she is naked, and if its an ad for an afterbath body gel I woudl assume she naked and that would be the point, though I do not know she were naked, its likely that she may well have been naked! Now who wants to come and get all naked for me? I won't even use a camera so its not even an implied nude!!! Stephen Eastwood http://www.StephenEastwood.com
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Art Blanche
Posts: 116
Chicago, Illinois, US
StephenEastwood wrote:
I would say the OP is not implied I am seeing too much of what I should only see when the plumber is fixing the sink or the contractor is walking around the house for it too be implied. I agree that showing the crack makes this image a bit more than we need to see for "implied".
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CN Studios
Posts: 1917
Brooklyn, New York, US
StephenEastwood wrote: It is implied, I looked and can easily see that she may well be naked and in fact I would want to think she is naked, and if its an ad for an afterbath body gel I woudl assume she naked and that would be the point, though I do not know she were naked, its likely that she may well have been naked! Now who wants to come and get all naked for me? I won't even use a camera so its not even an implied nude!!! Stephen Eastwood http://www.StephenEastwood.com *considers* Nobody wants to see me implied =X That's why I'm behind the lens. Ahaha.
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StephenEastwood
Posts: 19585
Great Neck, New York, US
artblanche wrote:
I agree that showing the crack makes this image a bit more than we need to see for "implied". My contractor taught me that some Spackle takes care of that! works great! Stephen Eastwood http://www.StephenEastwood.com
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CN Studios
Posts: 1917
Brooklyn, New York, US
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Art Blanche
Posts: 116
Chicago, Illinois, US
C Nguyen Photo wrote: Crack kills, by the way. Hey no more wise cracks!
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CN Studios
Posts: 1917
Brooklyn, New York, US
C Nguyen Photo wrote: Crack kills, by the way. artblanche wrote: Hey no more wise cracks! You crack me up.
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Long Island Studios
Posts: 4162
Sayville, New York, US
Nude is nude. I always considered implied to be not nude but looks nude. I shoot nudes but down play the "goodies" I do not consider any of them implied....I think we have one of these magic undefined terms that I would love to see a section on MM defining so we all get on the same page...
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Art Blanche
Posts: 116
Chicago, Illinois, US
Doug Lester wrote: Traditionally the term means the shot shows the model in a way in which she appears to be, the nudity is implied, but the viewer can not really tell whether she or he is actually nude. Another related term which is often not used on the forums, is covered nude. In a covered nude, the model is obviously nude, but the 'parts' are covered so that they can not be seen in the photo. This is an example of an implied nude. http://www.distinctiveimages.com/glamou … /14100.jpg This is a covered nude. http://www.distinctiveimages.com/hi%20k … es/910.jpg So which is this - Implied or Covered? (rhetorical question)
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