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mojokiss

Posts: 481

Saint Petersburg, Florida, US

(added later - when doing the blur/add noise, you gotta mask/reveal that layer once effected)

INTRO:

Finally im going to sit here and try to make a tutorial on my methods - - - well it looks like NOTHING is working now - PS wont open, my mic wont work, etc. - - - so ill just make this an informative introduction - and informal informative intro and take it from there - - - people wanna know a few things about my techniques in my post production.

MY WORK FLOW:

1. from camera to my computer - some folder on my new hard drive - takes a few minutes
2. drag and drop into lightroom, name it, tag it
3. color correct best i can in light room
4. from lightroom, open an image in photoshop in 16bit adobe rgb mode
5. the real craziness starts - duplicate all or part of the image into a new layer
6. fix this new layer using patch tool, spot healing, clone, as needed
7. duplicate and edit further using paint brush set around 30 percent, sampling nearby colors usually lighter than the area being corrected for shadow or contour problems
8. duplicate and apply smooting and add noise (see post below) to make it all fit into the rest of the untouched image
9. merge newest layers to a completed image, duplicating as needed to preserve edit points/save points
10. use liquify
11. gradient map layer effect (see post below) with hue value of 30 added in middle of greyscale gradient and opacity 30%
12. color ballance - as needed
13. channell mixer if needed - various techniques
14. save, crop and resize to print or web size
15. unsharp mask set to 50% and 0.8 to 1 pixel
16. shadow highlight for extreme dark areas (can be used sooner)
17. use smooth/add noize technique to obscure noise or low quality areas of shadows if desired
18. flatten and save as .png
19. convert to 8bit and save as .png and jpg for web

I'll try and make a video of all this with narration and before and after examples. you might be amazed.

any questions? lets get started! theres a lot to cover - dont be shy at least say hey - - -

update - here is a link - http://tutorials.foxblood.com please don't be offended that i've posted a link here. I'll take it down if its a problem. See end of this thread for my updated replies

Sep 22 08 06:38 am Link

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MoJo40

Posts: 435

Baltimore, Maryland, US

Thanks for sharing.

Sep 22 08 09:48 am Link

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Andrew Kung Photography

Posts: 266

Louisville, Kentucky, US

This is going to be another one of those threads that I'll have bookmarked.

Sep 22 08 09:57 am Link

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KandiPixels Photography

Posts: 19

Carthage, North Carolina, US

WOOO! Secrets of how I can have Mojo too!



hehe.

Sep 22 08 10:21 am Link

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Ruben Vasquez

Posts: 3117

Las Vegas, Nevada, US

bump

Sep 22 08 12:38 pm Link

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Imagemakersphoto

Posts: 786

Saint Paul, Minnesota, US

Great info. Looking forward to the video if you get a chance to make it. Thanks for sharing your process.

Sep 22 08 01:16 pm Link

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Blackula Photography

Posts: 790

Los Angeles, California, US

can you explain a little about what you do with the gradient map  and channel mixer, I tought myself photoshop and have'nt been able to find a solid use for these 2 tools in my editing

Sep 22 08 03:26 pm Link

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mojokiss

Posts: 481

Saint Petersburg, Florida, US

Blackula Photography wrote:
can you explain a little about what you do with the gradient map  and channel mixer, I tought myself photoshop and have'nt been able to find a solid use for these 2 tools in my editing

GRADIENT MAP:

yup thats an effect i have used a lot - i call it an effect because its independant of the fine tuning of color correction.

- assuming you have a basic understanding of effect layers -

- i make an effect layer with gradient map.
- it pops up the gradient options - click on the gradient bar
- select the black to white gradient preset
- add a point in the middle of the gradient bar
- open up the color selector for that point
- select a hue of "30" and put the selector a bit above middle center
- close everything and set the layer to 30% opacity, or more if you like, and then open up the gradient map again and play with it - play around.

how i came up with the hue of 30?

- it seems to be a useful color for muting the blue sky since its the opposite of blue roughly
- it lessens the contrast of problematic skin tones and distracting tones in a nice image
- its a good tone for skin in general
- it has that sepia quality just a bit warmer to serve as a suble color correction as well as the "effect" it serves

I would be glad to talk about other techniques as well as to make a video tut on this and other things if it means getting hugs and kisses from all of you. I wanna help so dont be afraid to ask me anything.

CHANNEL MIXER:

I use this one sometimes to darken the reds in an image by mixing in more green. the way i do this is by setting the channel mixer as an effect layer, and checking the monochrome (or greyscale i cant remember - same thing tho) box. then you can slide the red green and blue around and it will affect the bright and dark of various aspects of the image. try it with all green with all red, with half red, half green; i never like using the blue i set it to zero because its mostly spectral highs i think.

then you can leave your image as black n white, or do what i do and SET THE LAYER STYLE TO LUMINOSITY and play with the opacity of the effect layer - this way, you can have the advantages that BW pics have with filtering, but the luminosity is applied to your color info. if you make everything a little on the teal/cyan side of things, it might look a bit like an infra-red image

Sep 22 08 07:09 pm Link

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MEK Photography

Posts: 6571

Westminster, Maryland, US

How did I do?

Original (out of Lightroom) on the left, Post "Mojonation" on the right...

https://mekphotography.smugmug.com/photos/379021931_fiazr-L.jpg

Sep 23 08 07:03 pm Link

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digital Artform

Posts: 49326

Los Angeles, California, US

I'm not posting in this thread because I don't want anybody to know how all over it I am.

big_smile

Sep 23 08 07:41 pm Link

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Craig Thomson

Posts: 13462

Tacoma, Washington, US

sombitch that's a grip of commands.



cries, I is doomed


Thank you to another person I respect.

Sep 23 08 08:05 pm Link

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mojokiss

Posts: 481

Saint Petersburg, Florida, US

Mike in Maryland wrote:
How did I do?

Original (out of Lightroom) on the left, Post "Mojonation" on the right...

wow great image - location, model, pose, to name a few. - thanks for sharing a before and after! i love what you did.

Sep 23 08 08:37 pm Link

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MEK Photography

Posts: 6571

Westminster, Maryland, US

Mojokiss wrote:

wow great image - location, model, pose, to name a few. - thanks for sharing a before and after! i love what you did.

Thanks!!

Sep 23 08 08:38 pm Link

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mojokiss

Posts: 481

Saint Petersburg, Florida, US

SURFACE BLUR / ADD NOISE:

to elaborate on one element of skin editing, the blur i use is surface blur. a friend of mine showed me this trick - and i tweaked it to suit me - but basically once you have your skin corrected with patching, spot tools, etc and some light correction using paint brush set at 30 percent with a lighter adjacent color (ask me about this and i'll elaborate) then you can use the surface blur, and then add noise on top of that same layer.

you duplicate the basic image, or cut and paste any part of it that you want to use the effect on, into a new layer. you apply surface blue (settings are like 4 to 10 pixels and thresh of about 30) and then you apply it and then go to add noise and play with it - add some subtle noise, and then go to that same layer, mask the entire thing so it doesnt show up, and then paint in the areas you want to REVEAL!!!

Sep 23 08 08:44 pm Link

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normad

Posts: 11372

Saint Louis, Missouri, US

Mojokiss wrote:
SURFACE BLUR / ADD NOISE:

to elaborate on one element of skin editing, the blur i use is surface blur. a friend of mine showed me this trick - and i tweaked it to suit me - but basically once you have your skin corrected with patching, spot tools, etc and some light correction using paint brush set at 30 percent with a lighter adjacent color (ask me about this and i'll elaborate) then you can use the surface blur, and then add noise on top of that same layer.

you duplicate the basic image, or cut and paste any part of it that you want to use the effect on, into a new layer. you apply surface blue (settings are like 4 to 10 pixels and thresh of about 30) and then you apply it and then go to add noise and play with it - add some subtle noise, and then go to that same layer, mask the entire thing so it doesnt show up, and then paint in the areas you want to REVEAL!!!

asking about the adjacent color thingie ....
*offers cookies

Sep 23 08 08:49 pm Link

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mojokiss

Posts: 481

Saint Petersburg, Florida, US

normad wrote:
asking about the adjacent color thingie ....
*offers cookies

sure -

AIRBRUSHING:

- - - select paint brush
- - - color pick a place on the skin that is just a shade lighter than the area you want to smooth over or correct
- - - set opacity of brush to 30 (or less)
- - - sparingly and very carefully paint the troubled areas while using you keyboard to resize brush on the fly

Sep 23 08 08:52 pm Link

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normad

Posts: 11372

Saint Louis, Missouri, US

thank you very much for sharing big_smile
(*cookies!)

Sep 23 08 09:26 pm Link

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robert christopher

Posts: 2706

Snohomish, Washington, US

now to find the perfect image to try this on.

thanks mojo, gotta love this community, i will pay it forward some day i promise.

Sep 23 08 11:31 pm Link

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Blackula Photography

Posts: 790

Los Angeles, California, US

Hey mojo do you have any tutorials you've done previously, that I can check out

Sep 24 08 10:23 pm Link

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LeDeux Art

Posts: 50123

San Ramon, California, US

Mojokiss wrote:
(added later - when doing the blur/add noise, you gotta mask/reveal that layer once effected)

INTRO:

Finally im going to sit here and try to make a tutorial on my methods - - - well it looks like NOTHING is working now - PS wont open, my mic wont work, etc. - - - so ill just make this an informative introduction - and informal informative intro and take it from there - - - people wanna know a few things about my techniques in my post production.

MY WORK FLOW:

1. from camera to my computer - some folder on my new hard drive - takes a few minutes
2. drag and drop into lightroom, name it, tag it
3. color correct best i can in light room
4. from lightroom, open an image in photoshop in 16bit adobe rgb mode
5. the real craziness starts - duplicate all or part of the image into a new layer
6. fix this new layer using patch tool, spot healing, clone, as needed
7. duplicate and edit further using paint brush set around 30 percent, sampling nearby colors usually lighter than the area being corrected for shadow or contour problems
8. duplicate and apply smooting and add noise (see post below) to make it all fit into the rest of the untouched image
9. merge newest layers to a completed image, duplicating as needed to preserve edit points/save points
10. use liquify
11. gradient map layer effect (see post below) with hue value of 30 added in middle of greyscale gradient and opacity 30%
12. color ballance - as needed
13. channell mixer if needed - various techniques
14. save, crop and resize to print or web size
15. unsharp mask set to 50% and 0.8 to 1 pixel
16. shadow highlight for extreme dark areas (can be used sooner)
17. use smooth/add noize technique to obscure noise or low quality areas of shadows if desired
18. flatten and save as .png
19. convert to 8bit and save as .png and jpg for web

I'll try and make a video of all this with narration and before and after examples. you might be amazed.

any questions? lets get started! theres a lot to cover - dont be shy at least say hey - - -

thats a lot of work, thank you for sharing

Sep 24 08 10:25 pm Link

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B L O P H O T O

Posts: 472

Chicago, Illinois, US

Very cool!!!

Sep 24 08 10:26 pm Link

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Andrew Kung Photography

Posts: 266

Louisville, Kentucky, US

Reading all that it seems that I'm going to have to sit down one day and give it a good try.

Thanks for sharing as always Mojo.

Sep 25 08 02:12 am Link

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Mortonovich

Posts: 6209

San Diego, California, US

Rock out, Mojo.

Well done. (again)

Sep 25 08 03:16 am Link

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Jeff Cohn

Posts: 3850

Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, US

i love when you do these post insider thingers

Sep 25 08 03:19 am Link

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Teddy Tan

Posts: 141

Melbourne, Victoria, Australia

I know you still have more secrets .....*sends more cookies*

Sep 25 08 11:19 am Link

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mojokiss

Posts: 481

Saint Petersburg, Florida, US

stay tuned. heading to fix brothers computer now... on 3 hrs sleep! feeling good tho

i'll come up with something to talk about when i get back if im still alive

Sep 25 08 11:27 am Link

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RedrumCollaboration

Posts: 1118

Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, US

You rock Mojo!

Sep 25 08 11:30 am Link

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DLHPhoto

Posts: 101

Milford, Massachusetts, US

mojo is a rare individual.

Sep 25 08 02:20 pm Link

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Felix Lighthouse

Posts: 46

Mesa, Arizona, US

??? mojo you left us. tell us the rest of the story. did you fix your brothers computer and what happened to that random pic out of lightroom? did it ever get photoshopped?

Sep 26 08 12:46 pm Link

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mojokiss

Posts: 481

Saint Petersburg, Florida, US

nope nothing yet - just been busy and crashed tonight in my bed out of exhastion. i just got up around 2:30am and ima stay up.

i need to get a more comfortable place to sit. been moving furniture around and im on the floor right now, i cant edit like this!

be back in a jiffy im sure. i have to submit some stuff to a publication so more editing to come

Sep 27 08 03:19 am Link

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Beyond Vanilla

Posts: 1517

Minneapolis, Minnesota, US

It's always nice to see what others do. Not to copy them, but to see how their editing style varies from what I do. Sometimes I learn a better way to do things and incorporate that into what I do. Thanks very much for sharing. You have beautiful work.

Greetings from Minnesota!

Sep 27 08 03:25 am Link

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Cory Hicks

Posts: 36

Prince George, British Columbia, Canada

Seeing posts like this really enforce my good feelings about this place. People are so helpful around here, in particular photographers. I've gotten some amazing critiques from them, as well as valuable advice. That had such an adverse effect on me, just imagine the feeling when a talented photographer shares some of his hard work with us, and tells US how we can do it it.

Thanks. We all appreciate it. smile

~CH

Sep 27 08 06:36 am Link

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mojokiss

Posts: 481

Saint Petersburg, Florida, US

bringing this post back to life - stay tuned. links to some small teaser video tutorials on my post edits, maybe more.

Oct 08 08 03:27 am Link

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Julia Gerace

Posts: 1889

Monroe, Connecticut, US

I so can't wait to try this tutorial/style 

thank you for being willing to share it!

Oct 08 08 06:30 am Link

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mojokiss

Posts: 481

Saint Petersburg, Florida, US

little pic i shot tonight
https://mojokiss.com/ashboots/slides/IMG_7457-33.jpg

stay tuned for my beta test teaser tutorial videos

actually, email me for the link

Oct 08 08 06:40 am Link

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Matthew Allen MEDIA

Posts: 251

Atlanta, Georgia, US

Mojokiss wrote:
little pic i shot tonight
https://mojokiss.com/ashboots/slides/IMG_7457-33.jpg

This pic is awesome!!! How do I get the tutorial?

Oct 08 08 04:06 pm Link

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mojokiss

Posts: 481

Saint Petersburg, Florida, US

obsolete info

Oct 09 08 07:47 pm Link

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Mortonovich

Posts: 6209

San Diego, California, US

Mojo, I've said it before and I'll say it again-

you're a cool potato!

Oct 09 08 08:48 pm Link

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Sockpuppet Studios

Posts: 7862

San Francisco, California, US

Mojokiss wrote:
NEWS - got an hour tutorial on post production of this image:

https://mojokiss.com/ms300/IMG_7409-Editf2-300.jpg

i'm working on an actual lighting tutorial now - but the post work tutorial should be available in segments tonight/tomorrow morning

email me either here or join up at mojokiss.com either way

I would love to see the lighting stuffs...

Oct 09 08 09:17 pm Link

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mojokiss

Posts: 481

Saint Petersburg, Florida, US

obsolete info

Oct 10 08 02:58 am Link