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Image Magik
Posts: 1515
Santa Cruz, California, US
This post is primarily for newbie models with a few pictures in their port of not very good quality that just started modeling a month ago and want to charge "photographers" to shoot them nude to make a quick buck. Whether you know it or not your port says GWC's Wanted.
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In Balance Photography
Posts: 3378
Boston, Massachusetts, US
Image Magik wrote: This post is primarily for newbie models with a few pictures in their port of not very good quality that just started modeling a month ago and want to charge "photographers" to shoot them nude to make a quick buck. Whether you know it or not your port says GWC's Wanted. What's your point?
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J-PhotoArt
Posts: 1133
San Francisco, California, US
Image Magik wrote: This post is primarily for newbie models with a few pictures in their port of not very good quality that just started modeling a month ago and want to charge "photographers" to shoot them nude to make a quick buck. Whether you know it or not your port says GWC's Wanted. This sounds like the battle cry of a "White Knight!"
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Art of the nude
Posts: 12067
Grand Rapids, Michigan, US
Image Magik wrote: This post is primarily for newbie models with a few pictures in their port of not very good quality that just started modeling a month ago and want to charge "photographers" to shoot them nude to make a quick buck. Whether you know it or not your port says GWC's Wanted. So, what do you have to tell those models? "This post isf or" them, but it has no content. And, being willing to pay a novice doesn't make you a "GWC", having creepy motives does.
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PATAAZ
Posts: 160
Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, US
Are you really expecting models to reply? C'mon. Models are scarce on model mayhem. This has become a boys club. You'd be better off with RC Helis!@
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Aspect By Allanah
Posts: 2110
Glasgow, Scotland, United Kingdom
Latent Images wrote: Are you really expecting models to reply? C'mon. Models are scarce on model mayhem. This has become a boys club. You'd be better off with RC Helis!@ Hey... hey! Girls club too
Photographer
Risen Phoenix Photo
Posts: 3779
Minneapolis, Minnesota, US
After reading the OPs profile the type of model he brings up, he has no interest in shooting. After all he is the grand poo ba of models who want to be in Playboy, Penthouse and Rolling Stone? That newbie model trying to earn a buck isn't in his demographic. Or has he just inflated his bio, to make himself sound so connected to the industry. So dear OP why should you worry about that poor model trying to make a buck. You certainly don't have to work with her or pay her.
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my_other_profile
Posts: 666
Ankeny, Iowa, US
Edited. Although, to be fair, I wish someone would've given my naive ass a head's up like this in college when I was working with GWCs on here because I actually thought I might learn something from them... I guess I did, though.
Model
Elizabeta Rosandic
Posts: 953
Santa Fe, New Mexico, US
So you figured out that guys who want to take photos to jack off to later will pay models on here lots and lots of money to do so. And your point is?
Photographer
Bureau Form Guild
Posts: 1244
Scranton, Pennsylvania, US
It could be said there is a sort of art to even those type photos. Dang all those late 50's camera club photos are pretty copied and admired today. Haven't any of you ever seen work that is so bad it's good? I recollect 70's beaver hunt style Polaroids. Now copied except for the beaver part and considered artistic. I recall the Stones album cover Undercover with depictions of back of men's magazine photography with the eyes blocked out for anonymity. Many consider art today. Hell who knows, stills from some splooge flick will be opening at the Whitney fourty years from now. I see many influences from very reputable art photographers on MM that evoke the days of bygone vice. For me? DGWC+3 Drunk Guy with Camera + 3 vivitar ghetto strobes. I don't really shoot nudes. Topless implied nipple slips are my limit. I don't want to explain to mom I have taken a career in pornography. She has a bad heart.
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TerrysPhotocountry
Posts: 4649
Rochester, New York, US
Am I the only person that is lost with that posting?
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ClimaxArt
Posts: 22
New York, New York, US
i think you just have to assume that sometimes people get drunk, high or whatever and sit in front the computer and write shit - amazon bets on this for a decent chunk of change. probably just a drunken, poorly executed attempt to troll.
Model
Shilo Von Porcelaine
Posts: 235
Los Angeles, California, US
If models are...who cares? Is it really your concern what someone else chooses to do on a modeling social networking site? Also, if someone just started modeling a month ago, you can't expect them to have amazing photos. And even the most experienced models still have the odd GWC bothering them.
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Ars Gratia Artis 908
Posts: 80
Wooster, Ohio, US
I do recall reading a forum discussion and a llama chimed in that GWC's were the reason that she hasn't worked a regular job since 2008. We are all here for different reasons, so I second, "What's your point?"
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Glamour by Glenn
Posts: 1033
Chattanooga, Tennessee, US
GWC wanted? Ok, what can I help you with?
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Lumatic
Posts: 13750
Brooklyn, New York, US
Go to the main page, hover over your browser tab until the title pops up and read what it says.
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D A N I
Posts: 4627
Little Rock, Arkansas, US
GWC's pay my bills and other photographers' rates. At least that what I use them for *shrug*
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RBM Photo
Posts: 557
Bellbrook, Ohio, US
Somedays I think these forums are little more than a fetish club for middle-age men that have a hard-on for lecturing young women.
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Marin Photo NYC
Posts: 7348
New York, New York, US
RBM Photo wrote: Somedays I think these forums are little more than a fetish club for middle-age men that have a hard-on for lecturing young women. +10
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Marin Photo NYC
Posts: 7348
New York, New York, US
GWC's are the reason why noobs charge....compensation for harassment and bad photos.
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Ed Woodson Photography
Posts: 2644
Savannah, Georgia, US
Image Magik wrote: This post is primarily for newbie models with a few pictures in their port of not very good quality that just started modeling a month ago and want to charge "photographers" to shoot them nude to make a quick buck. Whether you know it or not your port says GWC's Wanted. If not for GWC's, about a third of the models on here wouldn't be making a living at all. More power to both. It is s free trade market after all.
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Risen Phoenix Photo
Posts: 3779
Minneapolis, Minnesota, US
Elizabeta Rosandic wrote: So you figured out that guys who want to take photos to jack off to later will pay models on here lots and lots of money to do so. And your point is? Really? Wow you have a great imagination... I didn't get that from the OPs post. Do you think that about all photographers or just the ones that pay models I'm confused. (Lol)
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Bureau Form Guild
Posts: 1244
Scranton, Pennsylvania, US
Elizabeta Rosandic wrote: So you figured out that guys who want to take photos to jack off to later will pay models on here lots and lots of money to do so. And your point is? That is a broad generalization.
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Frank Lewis Photography
Posts: 14491
Winter Park, Florida, US
So...if one is male and happens to own a camera of any sort, the one is a guy with a camera, not so? You are trying to make the initials GWC mean something bad and I won't let you. I'm male and I own a camera. I am also an avid hobbyist who enjoys photographing lots of things including the occasional female model. This GWC thing, get over it and grow up. If you are a model who is occasionally paid by a so-called GWC: take the money and run.
Photographer
Bureau Form Guild
Posts: 1244
Scranton, Pennsylvania, US
Didn't Jacques Henri Lartigue start out as a GWC?
Model
Elizabeta Rosandic
Posts: 953
Santa Fe, New Mexico, US
Risen Phoenix Photo wrote: Really? Wow you have a great imagination... I didn't get that from the OPs post. Do you think that about all photographers or just the ones that pay models I'm confused. (Lol) The OP's post was about GWC's. The implication behind the title of GWC is one of sexual motivation.
Model
Elizabeta Rosandic
Posts: 953
Santa Fe, New Mexico, US
Antediluvian Design wrote: That is a broad generalization. Of GWC's? Isn't that kind of the definition of a GWC?
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Bureau Form Guild
Posts: 1244
Scranton, Pennsylvania, US
Elizabeta Rosandic wrote: The OP's post was about GWC's. The implication behind the title of GWC is one of sexual motivation. Is that the rationale I should use for OMG? OMG = mindless twit hobbyist model with bad cam phone banios photos?
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Nelia
Posts: 2166
San Francisco, California, US
Frank Lewis Photography wrote: So...if one is male and happens to own a camera of any sort, the one is a guy with a camera, not so? You are trying to make the initials GWC mean something bad and I won't let you. I'm male and I own a camera. I am also an avid hobbyist who enjoys photographing lots of things including the occasional female model. This GWC thing, get over it and grow up. If you are a model who is occasionally paid by a so-called GWC: take the money and run. I must say well stated... and I whole heartedly agree with!
Model
Elizabeta Rosandic
Posts: 953
Santa Fe, New Mexico, US
Antediluvian Design wrote: Is that the rationale I should use for OMG? OMG = mindless twit hobbyist model with bad cam phone banios photos? I really don't know what you're trying to ask. Are you asking if so-called OMG's are sexually motivated? I would say no, that they are naïvely motivated by the possibility of being a model, even though they have no idea how to accomplish this. I thought these things had long ago been established in the forums.
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Eclectic Vision
Posts: 8281
Toledo, Ohio, US
Risen Phoenix Photo wrote: Really? Wow you have a great imagination... I didn't get that from the OPs post. Do you think that about all photographers or just the ones that pay models I'm confused. (Lol) She is specifically talking about GWCs. A GWC is a guy that uses photography to get his jollies. And yeah that is how a lot of models make money on here. Woop dee doo.
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J O H N A L L A N
Posts: 12221
Los Angeles, California, US
Image Magik wrote: This post is primarily for newbie models with a few pictures in their port of not very good quality that just started modeling a month ago and want to charge "photographers" to shoot them nude to make a quick buck. Whether you know it or not your port says GWC's Wanted. You may be missing, that very possibly that is exactly the "model's" intent. MM kind of caters to that scenario if you hadn't noticed.
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Model MoRina
Posts: 6638
MacMurdo - permanent station of the US, Sector claimed by New Zealand, Antarctica
The GWC is mythical creature, talked about by photographers who, although they spend thousands of dollars for gear, refuse to pay models for their time, citing their talent, experience or intention to publish a picture. These photographers have convinced models that this mythical creature exists and is evil. They speak about the legend of the evil GWC who pays models and how he must have evil intentions. They deny the GWC has legitimate intentions in order that models shun them in fear. They attempt to get models to equate a photographer who offers money to shoot with a person (the “GWC”) who has bad intentions or is perverse. Even models now use the term GWC, showing they have been brainwashed to believe this legend. They buy into the concept that they if they accept money from a photographer with questionable skill, that they must have done something to be ashamed of, or must proudly wave the “I got paid” banner to justify it.
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J-PhotoArt
Posts: 1133
San Francisco, California, US
MoRina wrote: The GWC is mythical creature, talked about by photographers who, although they spend thousands of dollars for gear, refuse to pay models for their time, citing their talent, experience or intention to publish a picture. These photographers have convinced models that this mythical creature exists and is evil. They speak about the legend of the evil GWC who pays models and how he must have evil intentions. They deny the GWC has legitimate intentions in order that models shun them in fear. They attempt to get models to equate a photographer who offers money to shoot with a person (the “GWC”) who has bad intentions or is perverse. Even models now use the term GWC, showing they have been brainwashed to believe this legend. They buy into the concept that they if they accept money from a photographer with questionable skill, that they must have done something to be ashamed of, or must proudly wave the “I got paid” banner to justify it. Excellent post!
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Jeffrey M Fletcher
Posts: 4861
Asheville, North Carolina, US
Image Magik wrote: This post is primarily for newbie models with a few pictures in their port of not very good quality that just started modeling a month ago and want to charge "photographers" to shoot them nude to make a quick buck. Whether you know it or not your port says GWC's Wanted. Are the newbie models to understand that the way to avoid questions about their intellect and taste and even some light slut shaming would be to pay photographers?
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Dean Johnson Photo
Posts: 70925
Minneapolis, Minnesota, US
MoRina wrote: The GWC is mythical creature, talked about by photographers who, although they spend thousands of dollars for gear, refuse to pay models for their time, citing their talent, experience or intention to publish a picture. These photographers have convinced models that this mythical creature exists and is evil. They speak about the legend of the evil GWC who pays models and how he must have evil intentions. They deny the GWC has legitimate intentions in order that models shun them in fear. They attempt to get models to equate a photographer who offers money to shoot with a person (the “GWC”) who has bad intentions or is perverse. Even models now use the term GWC, showing they have been brainwashed to believe this legend. They buy into the concept that they if they accept money from a photographer with questionable skill, that they must have done something to be ashamed of, or must proudly wave the “I got paid” banner to justify it. You're on a roll today!
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Mcary
Posts: 1803
Fredericksburg, Virginia, US
Image Magik wrote: This post is primarily for newbie models with a few pictures in their port of not very good quality that just started modeling a month ago and want to charge "photographers" to shoot them nude to make a quick buck. Whether you know it or not your port says GWC's Wanted. Yes why in the world would newbie models with just a few poor quality picture in their port want to start charging photographer when there are so many photographers on MM that would happily work with them on a trade basis to help them increase the number of poor quality images in their port from just a few to 20 or 30 or even more
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Photofixia
Posts: 70
Auckland, Auckland, New Zealand
I've always thought that certain photographers who have high, over-inflated opinions of themselves and their abilities are the ones who constantly drone on about 'GWC'. It's their way of saying "Hey look at me I'm such a cool, hot-shot photographer that everyone else is beneath me". If a model looks at a photographer's portfolio and decides that he/she wants to work with that particular photographer (whatever their ability/style etc) then that's the end of the story!
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Photofixia
Posts: 70
Auckland, Auckland, New Zealand
MoRina wrote: The GWC is mythical creature, talked about by photographers who, although they spend thousands of dollars for gear, refuse to pay models for their time, citing their talent, experience or intention to publish a picture. These photographers have convinced models that this mythical creature exists and is evil. They speak about the legend of the evil GWC who pays models and how he must have evil intentions. They deny the GWC has legitimate intentions in order that models shun them in fear. They attempt to get models to equate a photographer who offers money to shoot with a person (the “GWC”) who has bad intentions or is perverse. Even models now use the term GWC, showing they have been brainwashed to believe this legend. They buy into the concept that they if they accept money from a photographer with questionable skill, that they must have done something to be ashamed of, or must proudly wave the “I got paid” banner to justify it. Well said!
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Model Mentor Studio
Posts: 1359
Saint Catharines-Niagara, Ontario, Canada
MoRina wrote: The GWC is mythical creature, talked about by photographers who, although they spend thousands of dollars for gear, refuse to pay models for their time, citing their talent, experience or intention to publish a picture. These photographers have convinced models that this mythical creature exists and is evil. They speak about the legend of the evil GWC who pays models and how he must have evil intentions. They deny the GWC has legitimate intentions in order that models shun them in fear. They attempt to get models to equate a photographer who offers money to shoot with a person (the “GWC”) who has bad intentions or is perverse. Even models now use the term GWC, showing they have been brainwashed to believe this legend. They buy into the concept that they if they accept money from a photographer with questionable skill, that they must have done something to be ashamed of, or must proudly wave the “I got paid” banner to justify it. While I don't pay models and they don't pay me...the thousands I have spent is part of why I don't pay models. My money is in shooting peoples pets so I do all TF. I am a hobbyist, not a GWC. If guys want to pay nude models..awesome. Who cares, really. What they do with the pics...who cares. Once the shutter is released and the money paid..the rest means nothing. A paid gig is a paid gig.
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