Paul Bryson Photography wrote:
*waits for someone to notice the date of this thread*

Really.  Of all the gin joints in all the world someone just had to bump this one.

Edward Chen Photography wrote:
the most dangerous threat top the industry is : GWC with pile of cash dollars.

They will keep the newbie models hired and build attitude on them.

While I believe the notion of GWC is a necessary element in the desire of most of the photographers on this site to have at least someone to look down on, your hypothesis is pure bullshit.

Edward Chen Photography wrote:
the most dangerous threat top the industry is : GWC with pile of cash dollars.

They will keep the newbie models hired and build attitude on them.

At least he has money to pay the babes.  The worst kind is the one pretending they are not a GWC and take pic of the babes w/o paying them.  Sadly every male photographer here is a GWC otherwise they will be taking pic of the birds instead of the young chicks. 

The Original Sin wrote:
A GWC is, IMHO, any photographer who is not working towards submission, sales or publication, and is really just taking pictures to satisfy their own interest.

I love them.  They pay a lot of my bills, because they like to hire me.

You just described 99.9% of the males here.............. ding ding........

FYI, I am working on a NUDE book, so there you, i am not a gwc, hahaha

J-DEW-PHOTO wrote:
A true perv keeps it to themself.

Oh I don't know about that...since fully embracing my perviness, I have more people wanting to shoot with me than ever.

Sasha W wrote:
creepy old men who wanna shoot "glam" in their basement... and ALL their shots come out all grainy with the girl in a thong bent over. And he only does TF! lol hmmm. met one of those recently

Full of misinformation, especially as far as TF.

Edward Chen Photography wrote:
the most dangerous threat top the industry is : GWC with pile of cash dollars.

They will keep the newbie models hired and build attitude on them.

Closer to the truth.

A photographer paying a model has more leverage to be a jerk than one who shoots trade.

The Original Sin wrote:
A GWC is, IMHO, any photographer who is not working towards submission, sales or publication, and is really just taking pictures to satisfy their own interest.

I love them.  They pay a lot of my bills, because they like to hire me.

definitions are problematic. You just defined "hobbyist," too.

Sophistocles wrote:

definitions are problematic. You just defined "hobbyist," too.

Hobbyists who're in it for the bewbs qualify.

SLE Photography wrote:
Hobbyists who're...

nothing to add other than i found the contraction of "who are" interesting!

Sophistocles wrote:

definitions are problematic. You just defined "hobbyist," too.

Hobbyists are GWCs IMO.

Hell, I don't shoot models, but I am a hobbyists- I proposition frogs and other smal things all the time for shoots!  And I don't even pay them!

SLE Photography wrote:
Hobbyists who're...

291 wrote:
nothing to add other than i found the contraction of "who are" interesting!

You need to put thar in proper internet parlance:

291 wrote:
nothing to add other than i found the contraction of "who are" interesting!

nothing to add?

you are uniquely qualified to respond to this thread......

291 wrote:
nothing to add other than i found the contraction of "who are" interesting!

Doug Swinskey wrote:
nothing to add?

you are uniquely qualified to respond to this thread......

??

Orly?

peter leverett wrote:
i agree, there are to many of them.....there are a few that think they are a model agent, photographer, director, and so on....

take a look at a Pro GWC... http://www.paulrobertsint.com/

Don't those fall more under "Sluggo" ??

Sophistocles wrote:

definitions are problematic. You just defined "hobbyist," too.

I'm a "Hobbyist" but I certainly don't see myself as a GWC.

291 wrote:
nothing to add other than i found the contraction of "who are" interesting!

Doug Swinskey wrote:
nothing to add?

you are uniquely qualified to respond to this thread......

SLE Photography wrote:
??

doug and i share a long history on these interwebnet modeling sites.  i believe he is referring to back in 2001 or 02 when i made an observation by using the acronym gwc which hadn't been a previous label give to those exemplifying the characteristic.

certainly debatable whether it was i who coined the term, but the term's presence certainly grew from making that initial assessment made on the other model place site.

either that or doug knows i like seeing b(o)(o)bies!

291 wrote:
doug and i share a long history on these interwebnet modeling sites.  i believe he is referring to back in 2001 or 02 when i made an observation by using the acronym gwc which hadn't been a previous label give to those exemplifying the characteristic.

certainly debatable whether it was i who coined the term, but the term's presence certainly grew from making that initial assessment made on the other model place site.

Ahhhhhhhhhhh.  TY for the clarification. 

SLE Photography wrote:

Hobbyists who're in it for the bewbs qualify.

I'm a hobbyist.  I don't believe I'm a GWC though....

I'd shoot more clothed shoots but the nude models are the only ones who seem to show up.....

 

Stefano Brunesci wrote:
if his motivation for taking photos is only to get women naked then he's a GWC regardless of the quality of his work.

How exactly do we divine someone's intent or motivation unless he tells us himself? Guessing about it isn't fair---

Robert Randall wrote:
...the notion of GWC is a necessary element in the desire of most of the photographers on this site to have at least someone to look down on...

I think Robert is on to something.

MissBrutal wrote:
It may have already been discussed on here (but I'm useless at skimming), but is there anywhere on here where we can name and warn other models/togs/MUAs/etc the names of GWC's?

I worked with one 7 months ago, who uses other people's images in his portfolio (I've seen them elsewhere long before meeting him and KNOW they're not his) and despite constant contact, I've not had ANY of the images back.

I think he may be on here somewhere, and am slightly worried he'll take advantage of other girls (as he seems to do this often, working TF only or charges you, doesn't know how to use any settings on his camera other than the standard setting it was on when he bought it AND shies away from contact when you want the images back). Oh, he also never gave me a release to sign, and said he would post me one later that week.
As I say, this was seven months ago, and still nothing. I've threatened him with legal action, and that was the only thing that got him to respond, saying he hoped to sort it amicably and without that having to happen, but after that, NOTHING! AGAIN!!

*and breathe*
Sorry...I went on a bit of a rant there that is probably not relevant to this thread, but if your eye's aren't bleeding yet, I could do with some help on how to deal with this guy :S

That's not a GWC, that's a guy you are having a disagreement with.

Hollywood Starlet wrote:
'GWC' is any poser/creep with a digital camera

So since I'm more likely to show up at a shoot with a film camera, I'm off the hook?

*whew*

Hollywood Starlet wrote:
Do you agree with this definition of "GWC?"

GWC -Guy With Camera

Commonly used in the modeling/photographer biz, 'GWC' is any poser/creep with a digital camera pretending to be a pro/semi-pro photographer. With the introduction of digital cameras, GWC's have appeared like an explosion in a toy store.

GWC's typically steal the work of others and don't have any references.
"Some GWC asked me to 'test' for him, what a creep."

"What's with all the GWC's on OneModelPlace.com, lately?"

"Damn GWC's are ruining it for the rest of us." - Pro Photographers

Provided by: www.urbandictionary.com


...or do you have a better definition?

They don't take the lens cap off when they're shooting

Hollywood Starlet wrote:
'GWC' is any poser/creep with a digital camera

Haarvey Aardvark wrote:
So since I'm more likely to show up at a shoot with a film camera, I'm off the hook?

*whew*

Yup, everyone knows GWCs don't use film

and the oldest definition of GWC = Guy With Cave

Miss Anthrope 1007 wrote:
and the oldest definition of GWC = Guy With Cave

I has cave! Welllll... ok it's more like an underground parking deck...

Chris Keeling wrote:
That's not a GWC, that's a guy you are having a disagreement with.

Sorry, I forgot to add that they were nude ones, my *first* nude shoot experience (believe me, I know I'm a fool for doing it now but didn't at the time) and he was taking shots of my boobs and stuff without me knowing, and quickly transferred them to his computer/moved specific ones to different folders (I think so anyways, otherwise it took over 30 minutes for the images to move from his memory card) before showing me any of them, and even then I only saw a couple.

Like others have said, in it for the boobs, little to no experience, plenty of plagiarism in his portfolio. Pretty much makes this guy a GWC (Y) it's just a shame he's one that seems to be difficult to get in touch with in order to recieve the 'questionable' photos he took.

Stefano Brunesci wrote:
While GWC is used on many sites to mean simply "guy with camera" with the implication that he may not have much skill or professionalism, the Model Mayhem usage is a little stricter:-

https://www.modelmayhem.com/faqs.php?fa … =22&link=1

Basically, if you call someone a GWC here you are accusing him of only being interested in seeing naked women for his own pleasure and using his camera as a prop to facilitate that. By this definition, a GWC might actually have excellent photography skills, but if his motivation for taking photos is only to get women naked then he's a GWC regardless of the quality of his work.

Just my $0.02

Ciao
Stefano

That's pretty much how I see it.  Motivation, not skill, is the key.

Hollywood Starlet wrote:
Do you agree with this definition of "GWC?"

GWC -Guy With Camera

Commonly used in the modeling/photographer biz, 'GWC' is any poser/creep with a digital camera pretending to be a pro/semi-pro photographer. With the introduction of digital cameras, GWC's have appeared like an explosion in a toy store.

GWC's typically steal the work of others and don't have any references.
"Some GWC asked me to 'test' for him, what a creep."

"What's with all the GWC's on OneModelPlace.com, lately?"

"Damn GWC's are ruining it for the rest of us." - Pro Photographers

Provided by: www.urbandictionary.com


...or do you have a better definition?

Ahh Hell.  Does this mean I can't be a GWC any longer cause I shoot film?  Didn't GWCs exist before digital cameras.  I'm sure they did!  You're going to have to delete the digital part of the definition.

The above posters are correct.  It's the initial motivation for hiring the model that gets one the title GWC.

Edit:  Oops.  I didn't know this was 7 freakin' pages.