Photons 2 Pixels Images wrote:
I use CS4 and it pastes into the group for me.

;?

Photons 2 Pixels Images wrote:
And just in case you wanna use it, I started a simple repository for the scripts/actions/examples dealing with the Frequency Separation methods....

http://www.model-citizens.com/FreqSep/

will take a look

Mask Photo wrote:

Photons 2 Pixels Images wrote:
I use CS4 and it pastes into the group for me.

;?


will take a look

I tried it a few times a few different ways and every time it goes through the Sharpen actions, the layers all end up within the Original group. But when I stop it after it makes the HF Scratch layer and move that to the top of the stack, it works fine.

Mask Photo wrote:
stay tuned; there will be (at least) one more version coming once i verify that the healing layer will clip to the HF layer and blend correctly.

edit: cute avatar, by the way

I have this thread bookmarked as I expect it will grow to be as useful (actually, it's already more useful for me) as the original thread.

And thanks for the comment

Photons 2 Pixels Images wrote:
I tried it a few times a few different ways and every time it goes through the Sharpen actions, the layers all end up within the Original group. But when I stop it after it makes the HF Scratch layer and move that to the top of the stack, it works fine.

Photons, did you grab v0.7.3?  from this post: https://www.modelmayhem.com/po.php?thre … st12736874 

click where it says "this"

After that, make sure you're using 0.7.3 in your actions menu and not still using 0.7.2 (infact, just delete 0.7.2 since 0.7.3 does not overwrite it.. you will need to add the action back in)

Hope that helps... it fixed my problem, and I was having the same issue as you...

DH Studios wrote:

Photons, did you grab v0.7.3?  from this post: https://www.modelmayhem.com/po.php?thre … st12736874 

click where it says "this"

After that, make sure you're using 0.7.3 in your actions menu and not still using 0.7.2 (infact, just delete 0.7.2 since 0.7.3 does not overwrite it.. you will need to add the action back in)

Hope that helps... it fixed my problem, and I was having the same issue as you...

No, I didn't get that. I actually use my own action but was only trying to help solve an issue some were having.

Thanks!

Lunarimaging wrote:
This thread and the original have been massive wealths of information.  The first time I read it, it was a bit confusing, but the more I messed around with it I really wrap my head around how it all works now.  Cheers for figuring this stuff out, its real genious at work I must say!

My head is still not wrapping, but I'm definitely trying! Thanks to all of y'all for the help.

Mask Photo wrote:
New version up, linked in the OP. Some improvements, but nothing groundbreaking (though I do enjoy not having to set my clone source on the high frequency layer over and over now)

Awesome thanks I have to try it out....

Eikon wrote:
mask, your "final effects" set has a save action right at the top.  after playing around with your actions in a file id been working on, i go to run that one and it goes ahead and saves my psd with all your new layers and testing stuff.  thankfully i stopped it.  this shouldnt be something left in an action, and if it is, it should be a prompt, not automatic.

just an fyi.

you're welcome to put in a prompt, but respectfully, i feel that these are actions you should only use in production once you've toyed with them and know what they do. They're intended to be the last thing you do to a file anyway, since they overlay stamps of the entire image in the top layer group.

I put the save steps in there because I got tired of doing work that i'd lose when pshop would lock up, which was happening about 3 times a day for a while, inevitably after I'd forgotten to save, but even having it happen once a month is too often for me, so I argue that the save steps stay in.

You can also always just run your history back to before one of the actions went off, provided your history cache is big enough; you could have re-saved your file from there. Perhaps it should set a history snapshot before it starts up...

Thanks for bringing this up, though; nobody's asked about the save steps before now, so discussing them slipped my mind.

plabonte wrote:
So just because I am a newb.

The final effects action do I run that on a merged layer with all the edits applied?

Yep. Get all your retouching done, because the final effects will make 3 grouped effects layers that all use a stamp of what's done so far.

If you have to go back and re-edit, hide and rename your final effects folder, then when you run it again, copy the masks over to the new one and your prior sharpening decisions are preserved.

plabonte wrote:
I must be doing something wrong.
When I run workspace everything is fine. Then when I run the frequency separation 8-bit the final image looks a high pass filter of an image on a 50% grey background?

You're not doing anything wrong. the action turns the base group off so i can clone on the healing layer using "current and below".

There are 3 ways to heal.
1) clone stamp on the HF layer (you'll have to unlock it or modify the script)
2) clone on the healing layer by setting your clone source on the HF layer and switching back
3) hide the base layer and clone onto the healing layer with "current and below" checked.

I hate #1 because it means your edits are relatively destructive. It's hard to undo them if you edit the HF layer directly.
I hate #2 because I spent hours clicking back and forth between layers before I hit on #3.
#3 lets you edit the texture with quick alt-clicks of the clone brush, and you can stay on the healing layer. It's possible that there's some way to exclude a group from cloning, but I don't know it.

plabonte wrote:
Also during the scrip it ask about a snapshot and if I should pick all layers, current layer or merged layers... not sure what do answer there either... sorry is there a faq for the scripts?

You're in the faq.
I've never run into that dialog, and i've used these actions on CS4, 5, and 6 (though not recently on 4). What version are you running? At what point is it asking this?

plabonte wrote:
I think I figured it out... the base layer group was not shown after the action is finished. Also the image after the action (frequency separated) has been sharpened a great deal... I just want to make sure it should look that way.

I thought I read once the action is finished there should not be a difference between the original and the frequency separated image.

It's temporarily sharpened a great deal. a gross amount of sharpening, just to emphasize flaws.
Due to the #3 healing method above, you have to turn off the base layer to heal, but that made some imperfections impossible to see (light gray on light gray), so i threw in a layer called "exaggerate texture" to make the flaws pop out during healing. You'll turn that layer off (when you're done healing), and your image will be back to normal. I frequently turn it off and base on to check the status of my retouching, then flip them to retouch more.

plabonte wrote:
Thanks, sorry for all the questions.

not at all. It means people are using the actions, which is great.

Now, i *could* have made them easier for the masses to use, but since i'm dogfooding (eating my own dogfood = using the things i make), i made it to be useful to my workflow.

plabonte wrote:
One last question about your workflow, do you do any edits for your shots in camera raw? (other then white balance and color adjustment)

Healing Brush?
Adjustment Brush?

I do all the "big moves" in lightroom (effectively ACR for your purposes). Large tonal adjustments, gross color adjustments, etc. Also, if you're extending your dynamic range, you'll want to pull several exposures out of the raw and then sandwich and mask them... That's all done before the split. If you have a composite before you split, you'll end up with that composite preserved in the "original" group.