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Barter! Alternatives to TFP
__________ EDIT: I know TFP is a form of barter - that's not the focus of this thread. __________ This thread will not apply to all photographers/models. If it doesn't apply to you, instead of flaming me, please move on to the next thread. In another thread someone mentioned bartering - so as not to hijack that thread, I'm starting a seperate one here. I would love to pay everyone I want to work with, and be paid by everyone who wants to work with me, but sometimes that's not always possible. I just can't financially afford TFP with everyone who wants it, and many models can't afford to pay cash. But what works out great is payment in the form of services! Most people I've come across (since I don't live in NY or LA) seem to have a day job, and so trading goods/services that one would otherwise have to spend money on is one possible alternative to cash. Some of the ways I've compensated models and MUAs aside from cash: custom Business/comp cards Clothes Collectible Toys Day spa services Gauranteed gallery exposure Guaranteed tear sheets Getting them paid gigs with someone else Headshots Photo Retouching services Prepaid gas cards prepaid phone cards Resume preparation/formatting Restaurant Gift cards Some of the ways I've been compensated: Access to locations Beer Chiropractic/massage work Free film processing Free photocopy and/or printing services Free Hotel stays Frequent flier miles MUA services on other shoots Prepaid gas cards prepaid phone cards Restaraunt gift cards Website services (sticky post please?) Jul 22 06 02:32 pm Link just to clarify, TFP is a form of barter. this thread may still be handy to explore the possibiities. be as creative in your dealmaking as you are in your work. Jul 22 06 02:39 pm Link oldguysrule wrote: Not to derail the conversation, but I wish more people understood that. All too often it is thought to be a matter of "free" modeling for "free" prints. Jul 22 06 02:41 pm Link oldguysrule wrote: Yes, it is. My intention was not to deny the value of TFP, just to suggest that there are other forms of barter often overlooked. Jul 22 06 02:43 pm Link oldguysrule wrote: TXPhotog wrote: I was beginning the think I was the only one who thought that. Jul 22 06 03:10 pm Link The way in which I make most of my money now is through ceramics. Sculpture and vessels and stuff. It might be the nature of the clay tradition combined with my proximity to alternative communities and people, but barter is pretty common. For instance, when I was doing a series of full sized torsos, and needed models, we traded for either a finished piece, an extra mold (for them to play with), 6 hand thrown mugs, food, a couple bowls (the ceramic kind), a couple bowls (the smokeable kind) etc. I'm actually needing to find some figure models soon, to get castings from and plan to offer TFFP or TFM or open-ended barters. I'm not adverse to doing the same with photography. I've done it before and it tends to work well with models who view their modeling as having an artistic purpose rather than just a purely financial one. Jul 22 06 03:23 pm Link i would consider paying someone in food and beer for photos. im an excellent cook, and my husband is a beer connessieur in the making! (dont think i spelled that right...) Jul 22 06 03:30 pm Link baelie wrote: I would shoot for food and beer. A nice home cooked meal on a real plate with a real fork, yea that would be a good deal. Can we have Catfish and Hushpuppies??? Jul 22 06 03:38 pm Link baelie wrote: Yum! Next time I'm in FL, I'll hit you up! Jul 22 06 03:42 pm Link oldguysrule wrote: TFP is intra-industry barter, i.e., between photographers, models, and MUA's. Jul 22 06 03:45 pm Link I've done shoots where I provided the outfits the models wore, and gave them the clothing as payment for the shoot. I'd be more than willing to shoot for barter, especially in exchange for trustworthy, reliable babysitting. Sweet Jesus above, I haven't seen a movie in the theatre since I don't know when. Jul 22 06 04:10 pm Link A certain bay-area model listed some ways that she's been compensated for her modeling time - one of which was "spankings." Jul 23 06 04:40 am Link back in 98, i designed a website for a dive shop in trade for free diving. part of that at the time was including some pictures of the island and some UW pictures. well, i still have my free diving today (and hotel), and since, it has landed me steady annual work with the island's Tourist Board, and more recently, a 2nd tourist board on a completely separate island. just goes to show ya....you never know! Jul 23 06 07:35 am Link Just remember to make sure the government gets its share. When you barter, dont be an IRS martyr. Send the IRS a couple of nude prints with your 1040. LOL. Jul 23 06 08:11 am Link :::sigh::: There's a discussion about a 5 foot 6 inch fashion llama that has forty-something posts. And this one only has 14 (including this one). So I suppose the other is more relevant to our day-to-day concerns... This is a dance I like to call the bump. Jul 23 06 05:04 pm Link You rang??? How I have been paid as a model: Cash Prints Room Board Plane tickets Movie tickets Sushi Hair cuts, color, styles, Ramen Fresh lemons Fresh catnip Wine Clothing Free night club entrance Free drinks Books Movies dvdâs CDâs Free trips vacations Spankings Tattoos All the hot wings I can eat All the wonderful beautiful new places I have traveled to and seen. All the wonderful beautiful people I have met and learned from. The chance to be immortalized in art Jul 23 06 05:07 pm Link I've been paid in gold fish  (the crackers, not actual fish.) Cigarettes. Money. Prints. Cds. No clothes yet, gotta work on that . Barbed wire... (modeling, not photographing.) Strange things. The gold fish were the best payment though.Jul 24 06 02:10 am Link Megan_G wrote: Paid in crackers, now THAT'S original. Jul 24 06 02:14 am Link I just bartered with a lawyer - he reviewed and made changes in my lease and will do our wills for headshots.... Jul 24 06 02:06 pm Link I bartered with a cement contractor, photos of his wife's pottery for pouring a baketball court. He poured a basketball court for me and his wife never called. Jul 24 06 02:17 pm Link Iona Lynn wrote: So for one fine dining experience you will pose for me all weekend? Jul 24 06 02:34 pm Link we are NOT millionaires here! we know about not having money. But people try to put shit over on you. eg..have no money for the shoot..but shows up in a brand new car.. eg.. have no money for the shoot...but tells me she just paid $500 to the vet for the rat dog eg.have no money for the shoot...but is leaving for a three week trip to Jamaica. thats why , we turn hard asses Jul 24 06 02:43 pm Link Have shot finished cars from a customizing shop for their website,in exchange for a paint job on my girlfriends car. Have shot remodeling before and after photos, as well as decks and such, for a wood floor in my living room. I love to trade . . . Jul 24 06 02:54 pm Link Julia Gerace wrote: Good one! Jul 24 06 02:56 pm Link UnoMundo Photography wrote: Aww. Why so grouchy Uno? Jul 24 06 02:57 pm Link On the other hand we can sell ourselves... to all bidders http://lasvegas.craigslist.org/ers/179232722.html or beter yet, just be a freak in exchange! PHOTOGRAPHER FOR YOUR NEEDS - m4w Reply to: [email protected] Date: 2006-07-07, 11:10AM PDT I'm good looking male who is looking help you make a web page or an ad and all I want is to watch. Or I want a woman or women to masturbate in front of me. * this is in or around Las Vegas/Henderson * no -- it's NOT ok to contact this poster with services or other commercial interests 179406454 Jul 24 06 03:02 pm Link I usually do paid work. In addition to pay, I have gotten: A $48 BART [kind of like the subway] card Clothes Lots of food! Movies Great photos Without pay, I have gotten: Clothes A tattoo Great photos While working my other job, as a street vendor, I have made friends with other street vendors. There are these chain-maille guys. They're the geekiest vendors on Telegraph, so I tend to be interested in them. Last week, one of the guys asked me if I would be interested in modeling some "shiny metal underwear" for him. He's going to give me what he makes for me to model or anything else I want in return. Fuck yeah! I'm excited. Jul 24 06 03:04 pm Link UnoMundo Photography wrote: OK. . . How do people find these sites? LOL Jul 24 06 03:09 pm Link This is worth a bump. Especially here in ModelMayhem... Feb 02 07 03:02 pm Link I'm a barting junkie on craigslist and I see photogs all the time trying to barter for photoshoots. I think it's pathetic. They can't get even tfp/tfcd gigs while talking to models so they have to try and barter their GWC work with people that don't know any better lol Feb 02 07 03:07 pm Link I'd shoot you in return for a copy of 'Conan the Barbarian' any day. Hmm. Feb 02 07 04:30 pm Link I provide retro wardrobe and hair styling for shoots, in exchange for stuff to put in my online port.I have fun either way.  Feb 02 07 04:35 pm Link no comment Feb 02 07 04:38 pm Link Jay Bowman wrote: Crap, I get yelled at for bumping a thread less then a month old, watch your back man. Feb 02 07 04:41 pm Link Jay Bowman wrote: Good one. Feb 02 07 04:42 pm Link dissolvegirl wrote: AMEN to that! I'm a stay-at-home mom Feb 02 07 04:42 pm Link i'll trade my best layin' hen for a nude model. Feb 02 07 04:46 pm Link Eric Tragedy wrote: can I entice you with Asian food? or Italian? Feb 02 07 04:48 pm Link oldguysrule wrote: Right! TFP/TFCD is barter it's not very expensive to buy a big thing of CD's and or paprer to do prints. lol Feb 02 07 04:53 pm Link CO Model Amber wrote: Exactly! I think if you buy in bulk, a cd is about 15cents. Feb 02 07 04:55 pm Link |
