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Photographers - How often do you pay models? What's the most you've ever paid a model per hour? Was it worth it? How much do you charge if a model is paying you? Models - Have you ever paid a photographer? What's the most you've paid and was it worth it? How much do you charge per hour? I've never paid a model and never will. I just don't see the point when you can get a model that's equal or greater in attractiveness to shoot simply for the images but that's just me. Edit - When I said ' Attractiveness ' I meant they had attractive qualities that made them a good model, I wasn't talking about their looks in particular. If I just meant their looks than I would have said ' beauty ' instead of attractiveness. Nov 29 10 01:30 pm Link I'm paying a photographer to update headshots next week. I'm also paying the MUA and hairstylist. She's agency approved by every agency I've ever worked with/hoped to work with, everyone knows her and the minute I say that she shot my entire commercial book, I get immediate respect for a wise investment. Nov 29 10 01:33 pm Link I've never paid a model out of my own money - and so far no client has given me the money to pay a model. If they need a model they hire them directly. The times I've been paid by a model it was generally for my normal rate, $100 for four retouched photos. Nov 29 10 01:34 pm Link There is more to modeling than attractiveness Nov 29 10 01:34 pm Link Not everyone can get the quality of models that they would like, to shoot on a Trade basis. Not every model can get the photographers with whom they'd like to shoot, to shoot on a Trade basis. When exchange of comparable services FAILS, money prevails. Nov 29 10 01:34 pm Link I pay if I have a job that pays me, & I need a model to complete the assignment. It's worth it if they show up. I've had more flakes when paying then trading. I've payed anywhere between 30 and 100 bucks an hour. I like paying if I can, so there's only pressure from the client, & not the model to finish the images. Nov 29 10 01:35 pm Link C L A V I C wrote: It's not always about finding a pretty model. Sometimes it's about finding a pretty model right NOW! If I get an assignment with a 24 hour deadline... offering a same-day tf casting call just doesn't cut it. Nov 29 10 01:39 pm Link Jonell Gottlieb wrote: There is? Nov 29 10 01:39 pm Link As part of our boudoir photography business we are both client and photographer and have hired two or three models in the past. The most was $100/hr for a published model, $75/hr for a couple of agency models who didn't have any published credits yet. When I am shooting something not for our own business I actually don't know what my clients pay their models. Nov 29 10 01:41 pm Link I have paid both. And actually paying more experienced photographers who taught me so much more about lighting and colors was much more beneficial than paying models. I would suggest that anyone who is a photographer learning and wanting to become better do the same. You will never regret it and you will be so glad that you did. Nov 29 10 01:43 pm Link Have you ever paid a photographer? Yes. What's the most you've paid and was it worth it? The amount is between the photographer and I. But yes, it was worth it. How much do you charge per hour? It varies. C L A V I C wrote: Great attitude to have. I'm glad others don't share it. Nov 29 10 01:46 pm Link I pay a photographer due to the simple fact that I must. Nov 29 10 01:48 pm Link C L A V I C wrote: rarely. just a couple of times earlier on to get things moving. What's the most you've ever paid a model per hour? generously. that's all i will say. Was it worth it? absolutely. How much do you charge if a model is paying you? zero to 300 per hour, currently. Nov 29 10 01:48 pm Link Rachel Jay wrote: Agreed. It's ok to like trading, but to "not see the point" in paying... Nov 29 10 01:48 pm Link Models often hire me, I give them a reduced rate, I hired a few when I first started shooting people, but of course that sped up my learning curve incredibly and their agents began referring me for paid work right away. Client pay models, and photographers, for the most part. Nov 29 10 01:49 pm Link B R U N O wrote: I hope that's sarcasm. Nov 29 10 01:51 pm Link Jonell Gottlieb wrote: I was hoping the same was true about your post. Nov 29 10 01:54 pm Link MisterC wrote: Yea. Many of the photographers I have seen who've had that "I won't pay and never will" attitude, who've been around for awhile, have work that's very stale and they don't seem to grow much as photographers. I attribute it to having the same quality of models to choose from, which largely becomes new models who don't know much about how to pose, how to emote, etc, because the models that stick with modeling quickly outgrow their work. Nov 29 10 01:55 pm Link B R U N O wrote: So any pretty girl can take an awesome image? You just click away? BS Nov 29 10 01:57 pm Link B R U N O wrote: So any pretty girl can take an awesome image? You just click away? Just like anyone with a camera can take a great picture. Nov 29 10 01:59 pm Link Sometimes a photographer and I will want to work together but one of us isn't completely comfortable with a trade agreement. At this point we might offer our shoot in the form of an affordable one on one seminar with either another less experienced photographer or an ametuer model. This way everyone is happy, the student gets valuable info for a very low rate and the pro photographer and myself split the profit (usually just a bit more than the travel expense) Nov 29 10 02:00 pm Link Jonell Gottlieb wrote: You're just wanting to go off on tangents now. Nov 29 10 02:02 pm Link I pay models and models as well as clients pay me depending on the type of shoot and who the client is or isn't. The most I have paid is four figures for a day and it was worth every penny and then some - the highest I have ever been paid is five figures a number of years ago - Travel, Time, Location, Lodging, Food, etc - setup, rental of lighting equipment -assistants all add up and I didn't get to keep much of the five figure... Nov 29 10 02:05 pm Link C L A V I C wrote: I've paid three models in the last two months. It was worth every penny. Nov 29 10 02:06 pm Link B R U N O wrote: Um...you started it and baited her. Don't sit over there pretending to be all innocent. Nov 29 10 02:10 pm Link I have never nor do I ever plan on paying a model and for the following reasons... 1) Most of the models I've shot TF* with (varying degrees of experience) cant model! Those that could, with the exception of a couple, were done after they have gone through their 1-2 dozen poses 2) I have several friends who will jump in front of my camera just for the images. I may have to wait til they have time but its always worth it when I'm patient 3) Most of my projects dont require anyone with any experience. I have visions in my head and I can direct anyone to the point to where I can get them out. SO gimme a novice who wants images and we both come out good. 4) "Stripper Rates"- Too many models feel their bodies are more special than the next and charge for you to shoot them nude. Since most of my projects do require nudity on some level, and most of the models I've come across cant model, then I'd just be paying to shoot them nude not to model. Now, if a third party hires me and allows for a model to be paid, then I have no issues sharing! Nov 29 10 02:10 pm Link I do this as a hobby so I've never accepted money from a model and there are so many models who wants TF that I'm always busy  Karma Nov 29 10 02:11 pm Link Daniela Victoria wrote: "You started it?" How old are you? Nov 29 10 02:11 pm Link Since I am the one who approaches the models about the shoot, they always get paid. Along with that they get a CD of all the images before they leave the studio and any prints they desire for no charge. Travel fees and lodging are also included if they are traveling any distance. Oh yeah, they can bring an escort too. Usually $100 per hour if we include any nude images but they are typically only 10% of the blend. Nov 29 10 02:11 pm Link B R U N O wrote: Wow..you can hear tone through the computer? You're gifted. Nov 29 10 02:15 pm Link I pay models all the time, matter of fact I don't think I've done a non paying gig in five or ten years. First, experienced full time (or even part time) professional models want money since it's their source of income. Rarely they will trade to update their books but only if there is a lull in their bookings. And most of my recent work is fine art nudes which usually mean paid models. One of the biggest things is I don't have to deal with them after they sign the release and take the money. Professional models and those with professional attitudes are great to work with, they are businesslike and no wasting time or energy. They get in, do the job, and leave. They know what they are doing and need little or no help from me. I am not talking about a wannabee or a girl who caters to GWC's but a real model. The most I paid a model was $250.00 an hour and that was in 1974. Would probably equal $1000.00 and hour now. Well worth it, built my life and gave me my start. There is a big differance in working with an experienced, smart, working model who know how to pose, how to work the lights, how to get the shot and someone who wants to, or trys but doesn't make it. And nothing says that just because you are paying them they will act professionally or know what they are doing. But between the pictures they can show, the number of jobs they do in a year, how many years in the business, you can usually tell. As far as how much I charge a model, I don't shoot for models. When I shoot for a client my day rate varies but it's about $1,200.00 now. Used to be higher but with the economy..... Edit: Any attractive woman would make a good model if the photographer knows what he is doing. Some look great to the eye and the camera. Some to the eye but not the camera so it's then up to the photographer to do his thing. Some models are like a lump of clay, just has to be molded by the photographer... YUCK, I'd rather just pay the ones that can do it own their own. Nov 29 10 02:16 pm Link I've never paid for photos, but I will eventually. I'm sure it will be worth it. I got lucky and was paid by a client once who had a budget for a project that including paying the photographer and models, but I know this is unlikely to happen again. I work for trade for now. Nov 29 10 02:16 pm Link When I started shooting models I paid, since I didn't feel I had a portfolio to warrant trade. The most I paid was $30/hour plus gas for an art nude shoot - yes worth it. Wonderful model. Since I don't make any money shooting models, I now shoot mostly on a trade basis, sometimes throwing in gas money. This means usually working with fairly new models and a lot of turn over. If I ever started making money shooting models, I'd gladly pay them. I'd probably hire agency models instead of internet models for reasons of reliability (depending on pay rate.) Nov 29 10 02:18 pm Link Jonell Gottlieb wrote: Attractiveness as a model. Basically someone with the qualities that make a good model. Nov 29 10 02:20 pm Link Daniela Victoria wrote: Word. I'm getting new head shots done next week as well, and I'm paying the entire team. Nov 29 10 02:24 pm Link B R E N N A N wrote: ^^this too^^ Nov 29 10 02:26 pm Link Rachel Jay wrote: Ding ding ding!!! So true... Nov 29 10 02:27 pm Link Photography is how I relax and have fun now. I dont mind paying for my hobby--- I would have to pay greens fees if I was a golfer, for instance... So spending bit on a model works fine for me... I dont have to worry about getting them trade pix on time (although I usually do anyway), and in general I can get more experienced models. And I remember all too well what it was like to be a poor college student--- so I like to chip in a bit. By the time you figure in the cost of a camera, a bunch of fast glass, lights/modifiers, computers, wacom tablets, software etc etc etc.... a few hundred dollars now and again for models just doesnt look out of place to me... But, being in business puts an entirely different spin on things, by necessity. I am glad my camera doesnt have to pay its way in life anymore. Nov 29 10 02:28 pm Link Daniela Victoria wrote: Yeppers. Nov 29 10 02:30 pm Link C L A V I C wrote: I pay models about 1 out of 3 shoots. Then I'd say about half the shoots have been for trade, and a smaller percentage left (less than a third) is what shoots I get paid. Nov 29 10 02:32 pm Link |
