Damianne wrote:
See, I just didn't really care, as long as she made music.

Maybe that's the difference.

I don't really care too much other than the fact that she is obviously talented, and now her talent is gone. I didn't know her personally, so I can't really connect on that level.

But if given the two choices, I'm definitely not mad at her... I more feel a bit of sympathy, because to me she was in need of a lot of help and she didn't get it.

Shot By Adam wrote:

I have to agree with you on this. I think "asshole" is probably an inappropriate name for her. "Drug addicted, self-imploding, uncaring, selfish, waste-of-talent, coke fiend, criminal" is probably better.

99.9% spot on, you forgot skank!

alteredstate wrote:

I credit anyone who has kicked any addiction, but what kind of BS is "given the gift of sobriety". These people were given a gift. They were given a talent and they squandered it, along with their lives.
They were talented and each made a contribution to society, in addition to making tons of money. The so-called gift of sobriety was one that only they could bestow on themselves, and they chose not to.
Let's not forget other talented people with more money than common sense who are now worm food, John Belushi, Heath Ledger, River Phoenix.
How sorry am I supposed to feel for someone with a talent who chooses the easy way out, to make life easier with drugs or alcohol, and does so to excess killing themselves.
Sorry, I got noting for them.

Have you ever struggled with an addiction?
Are you Amy Winehouse's close friend or doctor?

sofija wrote:
Keep waving around your ignorance about addiction- looks classy!

inorite...

netmodel wrote:
Amy Winehouse joins the 27 Club (musicians who died at 27):

Alexandre Levy
Louis Chauvin
Robert Johnson
Nat Jaffe
Jesse Belvin
Rudy Lewis of The Drifters
Malcolm Hale of Spanky and Our Gang
Brian Jones of The Rolling Stones
Alan Wilson of Canned Heat
Jimi Hendrix
Janis Joplin
Arlester "Dyke" Christian of Dyke and the Blazers
Jim Morrison of The Doors
Ron "Pigpen" McKernan of the Grateful Dead
Roger Lee Durham of Bloodstone
Wallace Yohn of Chase
David Michael Alexander of The Stooges
Pete Ham of Badfinger
Gary Thain of Keef Hartley Band and Uriah Heep
Helmut Köllen of Triumvirat
Chris Bell of Big Star
D. Boon of the Minutemen
Pete de Freitas of Echo & the Bunnymen
Mia Zapata of The Gits
Kurt Cobain of Nirvana
Kristen Pfaff of Janitor Joe and Hole
Richey James Edwards of Manic Street Preachers
Fat Pat
Freaky Tah of Lost Boyz
Sean McCabe of Ink & Dagger
Maria Serrano Serrano of Passion Fruit
Jeremy Michael Ward of De Facto and The Mars Volta
Bryan Ottoson of American Head Charge

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/27_Club

A lot of legends on that list. I had forgotten Mia died at 27 as well.

Arun Phillips wrote:

99.9% spot on, you forgot skank!

She spent all of her time in the public eye in a crazy obsessive relationship.

ASYLUM - Photo wrote:

I don't really care too much other than the fact that she is obviously talented, and now her talent is gone. I didn't know her personally, so I can't really connect on that level.

Talented on what level? As an artist NO, as a skank, YES up there with the best of them!

Damianne wrote:
No one's asking you to be in this thread, no one's asking you to feel bad for her, but really her life with drugs or her death with drugs doesn't affect you in any way whatsoever.

It may come as a surprise, but MM threads are not restricted to invitation only.

SPRINGHEEL wrote:
Oh goddam, this woman was phenomenal!


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HXjx2fo4 … re=related

She does music that I wish Christina Aguilera would do, personally.

Arun Phillips wrote:

Talented on what level? As an artist NO, as a skank, YES up there with the best of them!

In my opinion, she's an incredibly talented musician. I think I am entitled to that opinion. You are free to form your own.

alteredstate wrote:

It may come as a surprise, but MM threads are not restricted to invitation only.

Read the post above yours please.

Rik Austin wrote:
Being in the brig might not be the same as death but for some of you forum addicts a couple of weeks in there might seem like it.

No more trolling, being rude, or attacking anyone or you will get to find out.

Ok, ok, get the message.

MeowMix wrote:
Have you ever struggled with an addiction?
Are you Amy Winehouse's close friend or doctor?

I'm not Amy's doctor, and I long ago gave myself the gift of sobriety.

Garry k wrote:
this above all of them

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GfC6CCtZjxk

Thanks for posting that Garry - definitely one of her best. RIP

ASYLUM - Photo wrote:



She does music that I wish Christina Aguilera would do, personally.

Absolutely....


Problem is, Christina doesn't have soul....Amy did....



Damn, I love these songs...how awful that she won't do more

SPRINGHEEL wrote:

Absolutely....


Problem is, Christina doesn't have soul....Amy did....



Damn, I love these songs...how awful that she won't do more

I don't know Christina, so I can't tell you if she does or not. But I do know the couple of songs I have of similar genre have sounded amazing.

That being said, I absolutely agree... Amy had it, and knocked it out of the park when healthy.

alteredstate wrote:

I credit anyone who has kicked any addiction, but what kind of BS is "given the gift of sobriety". These people were given a gift. They were given a talent and they squandered it, along with their lives.
They were talented and each made a contribution to society, in addition to making tons of money. The so-called gift of sobriety was one that only they could bestow on themselves, and they chose not to.
Let's not forget other talented people with more money than common sense who are now worm food, John Belushi, Heath Ledger, River Phoenix.
How sorry am I supposed to feel for someone with a talent who chooses the easy way out, to make life easier with drugs or alcohol, and does so to excess killing themselves.
Sorry, I got noting for them.

Obviously you know nothing about alcoholism or addiction. Rather than fueling misinformation, I suggest doing some reading on it. Chances are someone you are related to, or are close to may have struggles in this area. If drug addicts and alcohilics could just quit on willpower alone, it would have happened long ago.
It's sad, but the truth.

alteredstate wrote:

I'm not Amy's doctor, and I long ago gave myself the gift of sobriety.

It's not something that magically goes away, as you should know.
Some people can't conquer their addictions, or demons, or what-have-you.
It's a day by day struggle for the rest of your life; some days are easier than others.
If one doesn't have the proper support, or exposes themselves to the wrong environment, then all hell can break loose.
Just my opinion, since I'm not a close friend of hers or a doctor that treated her, either.

rp_photo wrote:
I think people are upset with her for not making more of her gifts, and feel betrayed as fans.

I think those people should get over themselves and stop thinking they are entitled to anything of hers, including her 'gifts'.

immateria wrote:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/07/2 … 07753.html

Whoa.

MeowMix wrote:
It's not something that magically goes away, as you should know.
Some people can't conquer their addictions, or demons, or what-have-you.
It's a day by day struggle for the rest of your life; some days are easier than others.
If one doesn't have the proper support, or exposes themselves to the wrong environment, then all hell can break loose.
Just my opinion, since I'm not a close friend of hers or a doctor that treated her, either.

It's a lot like some people get cancer and can't beat it... some people come into life with mental instabilities... and just like cancer, it *might* be caused by external forces, or it *might* just be how you are built and that's what you have to battle.

ASYLUM - Photo wrote:

I don't know Christina, so I can't tell you if she does or not. But I do know the couple of songs I have of similar genre have sounded amazing.

That being said, I absolutely agree... Amy had it, and knocked it out of the park when healthy.

You can FEEL soul....Christina has the tool but she seems to think thats all you need...don't get me wrong, I love her stuff but she has been playing the same surface game for years....

ASYLUM - Photo wrote:

It's a lot like some people get cancer and can't beat it... some people come into life with mental instabilities... and just like cancer, it *might* be caused by external forces, or it *might* just be how your are built and that's what you have to battle.

Yup.
Some people have melanoma, and poof! A few cancerous moles are removed and never return.
Some people have stage IV pancreatic cancer and are gonners.
Many fall somewhere in between.

SPRINGHEEL wrote:

You can FEEL soul....Christina has the tool but she seems to think thats all you need...don't get me wrong, I love her stuff but she has been playing the same surface game for years....

I'll just drop it, this topic isn't about this. Just know I tend to not speak in black and white's especially when I'm not educated 100% on the facts.

ASYLUM - Photo wrote:

I'll just drop it, this topic isn't about this. Just know I tend to not speak in black and white's especially when I'm not educated 100% on the facts.

You got it brother

Synergy Visuals wrote:
Does anybody realize she was 27? like Jim Morrison, Jimmy Hendricks and Kurt Cobain?

They talked about the year 27 curse back in 1971... when the pillars of music died at that age one after another.

PS: Oops my bad someone mentionned it above... the 27 club!

*Jimi Hendrix

Natasha240 wrote:
Sad, only 27. I saw that Belgrade "performance", and I knew it was just a matter of time. Girl was so sad.

Is it weird that all day yesterday I had "Rehab" stuck in my head, since I woke up. No lie.

When that song came out, I knew she was going to die tragically and I knew it was going to piss me off because it was such a troubling message and it was so well sung.