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I don't care if a photographer touches...so long as he asks and its appropriate touching i've been known to brush off a model's butt...but I asked first and they said ti was ok Aug 23 11 05:42 am Link this is just like the real world. if you are comfortable with someone, touching is ok and sometimes encouraged. I always ask to fix hair, a strap etc, Typically if there is a MUA, I usually ask her to do it first. Over time, the model generally tells me to fix it. it's always interesting delimna in an implied shoot where I am trying to move a lock of hair to cover a nipple or move a leg to cover her lower parts. Being polite, professional, etc is the way to do it. Aug 23 11 06:05 am Link Collin J. Rae wrote: me included Aug 23 11 06:17 am Link I think it's sad we've reached a point where people consider legitimate touch to adjust something to be sexual harassment. Aug 23 11 06:46 am Link DanK Photography wrote: exactly! Aug 23 11 06:48 am Link hartcons wrote: +1 though with the caveat that it would depend on where the hair is. If it's on a sensitive spot, not gonna even go near that. Better to have the model move it even if it changes the pose a little. Aug 23 11 11:49 am Link K E S L E R wrote: I'm for sure not a professional model...but I can't help but to agree with this! Aug 23 11 12:34 pm Link InnaDaVida wrote: I don't touch the models. It's their space and I have a simple policy for a photoshoot - never do anything that makes you uncomfortable. Aug 23 11 01:12 pm Link As a photographer I am more concerned about models touching me Models work with lots of other photographers. They even do shoots with other models. You can find them in a bathtub that other models have been in. They wade into dirty water for that shot. Models get body paint all over them. They even wear clothing that other models have worn. I don't know where they ( models) have been. What they have touched. I have seen models naked but I have never seen a model wash her hands. Models might have cooties or germs or or or oh my goodness I am so afraid to be touched by models Next time I do a shoot with a model I am going to wear one of those paper suits, paper booties, gloves and a mask oh my oh my I am so afraid Maybe I should start using my wireless remote to trigger my camera from another building, maybe another state Aug 23 11 05:41 pm Link Mr. Whipple says: "Please don't squeeze the Charmin." Aug 23 11 05:45 pm Link All photography sessions must be done by webcam. Thats my new rule. The OP has shown me the light. I wont even consider being in the same state as a model I might shoot now. Thank GOD she posted this. Aug 23 11 05:50 pm Link liindsay ann wrote: Yep!!!!!!!!!!! Communication & comfort go a long way!! (If the model is so timid that your going to touch her then your shoot is doomed already). If the Model thinks your a perv then she should leave because the shoot is already doomed lol Aug 23 11 05:51 pm Link Aug 23 11 05:54 pm Link I have a strict no-touch policy. The closest I have ever come is straitening out a dress train on the floor, and I asked the model if it was OK if I did that. I personally don't like to be touched by people I am not related to, and I am just not into touching others. Call it a quirk. Aug 23 11 05:58 pm Link William Beem wrote: You can't compare fashion or art photography to an office job. Totally different animal. It's your duty as a photographer to make the model, wardrobe, etc. look its best. And often that requires the photographer make the adjustments. If a model is uncomfortable with that, then they are in the wrong business. If you feel it's inappropriate, then you're in the wrong business. Aug 23 11 05:59 pm Link Mnemosyne Photography wrote: lol Aug 23 11 06:01 pm Link Troy Tribble wrote: I have plenty more. Here is another fave. Aug 23 11 06:07 pm Link Victoria Herrera wrote: As a professional photographer, I actually disagree with this. There is nothing in a photographers job description that requires them to touch a model. For a hair artist, make up artist, wardrobe stylist, it is part of the job. This is not the case with a photographer. Aug 23 11 06:07 pm Link No way, unless if it's a good friend. Aug 23 11 06:09 pm Link InnaDaVida wrote: My "policy?" I don't have a "policy" regarding touching because I don't believe it necessary to have a "policy" regarding touching. I do not touch people I am working with unnecessarily. There are times when I may touch a model, when it might be warranted. If a model communicated to me that she or he absolutely must not be touched, I respect that and do not touch! Howie Mandel of America's Got Talent has a germ phobia and he absolutely will avoid shaking hands and dislikes being touched. I would not extend my hand or touch someone like that! But why a "policy" about it? Aug 23 11 06:20 pm Link Spider_Photos wrote: This! Unless I am hired to photograph well know germ phobic Howie Mandel for a shoot. Heck! If I am getting paid, I wont touch, and Howie can touch me if he wants for all I care! I'm getting paid! / An aside; Going to watch AGT tonight! Aug 23 11 06:25 pm Link Mnemosyne Photography wrote: I'm offended....that it took eight pages to get that gif to pop up here! Aug 23 11 08:20 pm Link Gabrielle Heather wrote: ....Do you have the words hello kitty (or i think your tattoo says kitti) on your hands? That is awesome and I love you. Aug 23 11 08:21 pm Link FashionPhotographer wrote: Don't get me wrong, I'm not talking about caressing me or something. I mean I don't mind if a photographer asked to move a hair, finger, even ask to poke my arm a different way (not that that's happened). The way the OP just came off in her post, I just have to agree with the person I quoted. Aug 23 11 08:57 pm Link Dear me... Aug 24 11 03:04 am Link my two cents...I ask before I touch and explain why before I do. If your hair or piece of clothing needs adjustment, I will be buggered if I am going to ask the model to move the collar one inch to her left or move that strand of hair 2 inches right. I will move arms and legs and feet too...but will ask before I do. If I worked with a model who refused to be touched for the reasons outlined...I can assure you, there will be no second shoot. ...and I do get the occasional model who moves their right arm instead of their left Aug 24 11 03:04 am Link A photographer should never, ever touch a model. With or without permission. Even if her hair or clothing catch on fire. Just point it out to her and send her to the shower, or carefully hand her some water. Please make sure the fire does not spread to the set. (is a sarcasm warning necessary?) Aug 24 11 10:58 am Link lol...yeah...politically correct method for assisting a model with hair on fire...assist but do not touch ...if I followed the advice of NOT touching the model suggested here (excluding the fire-in-the-hair-scenario [my duty of care to assist and touch on this point...or is it?]) by some, my next assignment will be an easy one...I will be the paid for photographer, but I will give the camera to the MUA and hairstylist as I am not responsible for the finished masterpiece. BTW, I am not the only with this opinion... K E S L E R wrote: Aug 24 11 03:23 pm Link pamela mars wrote: That's all well and good, when you have an MUA, stylist, and so forth. Many of us don't. When the girl brings a friend, I put the friend to work ("put a clothespin here ... brush her hair there ... put her hair back ... straighten the scrunchie") I also have the friend watching for stuff I miss, like stray hairs and wrinkled clothing. Aug 24 11 03:35 pm Link I'd be interested in hearing comments from people in different cultures. I know in my own travels its striking how different attitudes toward "touching" are in different places. Italy and much of southern Europe: very casual. England, much less so. So I'm curious about how models and photographers from different places in particular differ on their attitudes from the typical (if there are any!) attitudes here in the USA. Aug 24 11 03:40 pm Link Joel England Photo wrote: Thank you for posting. You reminded me of the fact that there are times when it's just me and the model "one on one" shooting. That will be different from those times when we have one or more people to assist us. That is why I made the statement that I "do not have a policy regarding touching!" I don't even think about it! Some people just micro-manage their shoots too much. Aug 24 11 03:46 pm Link veypurr wrote: Uh...how about if it is only the photorapher and the model shooting???? Aug 24 11 03:47 pm Link Swank Photography wrote: Must be a case of the OP over thinking, and micro managing her shoots to be so concerned about touching to even consider that photographers should have a "policy" regarding it! Like I said before, if someone like Howie Mandel is being photographed by me, I will NOT touch him! Some people don't want to be touched. If so, they should let those who work with them know this in advance. Otherwise, it is over thinking and paranoid. Doesn't matter if it's whom it is shooting. Communication works wonders! Aug 24 11 03:55 pm Link Paindancer Productions wrote: I was thinking maybe those booths that have the plexiglass to separate people and you have to feed the machine money to keep the curtain open. Solves, the touch issue, need for escorts and payment all at the same time. Aug 24 11 03:57 pm Link DanK Photography wrote: That's the hair or MUAs job to move the hair. Aug 24 11 04:00 pm Link If I didn't touch the models, how would I keep them off me. You all know how models are, always groping this, squeezing that. They can't keep their hands to themselves. I need to touch to push them away. Really, is this an issue for professionals. Respect people. Aug 24 11 04:08 pm Link Deadlynightshade wrote: I've been a photographer of people for over 30 years now. I have been trained by institutional photo studios like Olan Mills and also shot so many thousands of sessions that I don't have a clue as to exactly how many people I've photographed over the decades. I say that "Photographers should not touch inappropriately, needlessly, or excessively!" Aug 24 11 04:16 pm Link Patrick Walberg wrote: Boy stop lying you little freak you Aug 24 11 04:20 pm Link Orcatek Photography wrote: Wait until you get kidnapped by one! She forced me to process the film and give her the proofs and negatives before she'd let me go! Aug 24 11 04:21 pm Link Swank Photography wrote: Yea, I'm trying to give the models an idea " ... yea do ya wanna touch me there!" Just tye me up and whip me!" I'd like to have that gorgeous German model who kidnapped me do it again! It was exciting! I just don't know if my lil ole heart can take that kinda excitment anymore. Aug 24 11 04:26 pm Link |