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Friend has hired a "pro" photographer ...
Eric Lefebvre wrote: If you had concrete proof that this photographer consistently failed to deliver the photos in a timely manner, that's something to talk about. Style is completely subjective. I hope as you're leaving you understand why you were almost universally blasted. Jul 26 12 02:53 pm Link Eric Lefebvre wrote: Question (1) Jul 26 12 03:23 pm Link for my part i try not to volunteer opinions. if you know of current litigation involving the photographer then maybe. choosing a wedding photographer isn't just about the images, it's about having someone you feel comfortable with at your wedding. all three weddings we've shot so far have been buffet-style and we grabbed some food after the guests had their first courses and it was obvious there was plenty to go around. i think two of the brides specifically mentioned it was ok for us to chow down and on the third one there was lots of food so we just went for it. if it was an expensive sit-down meal kind of thing maybe they could just have a little something set aside for the photographer. Jul 26 12 04:21 pm Link Mer Soleil Photography wrote: +1 Jul 26 12 04:25 pm Link Eric Lefebvre wrote: Stay out of it. If you influence him into choosing another photographer and there's problem it's your fault, not his. Jul 26 12 04:44 pm Link MC Photo wrote: I didn't get to see the photographer's work that you questioned. I think the most help you can give your friend is to tell him what is reasonable to give the photographer in food. This is the question they need help with. As you don't shoot friends' weddings you can relax. They have found someone that works for them. You may meet people at the wedding, who are not your friends and interested in your work, presuming you're invited. Jul 26 12 05:03 pm Link Most people only get married two or three times in their lives, so wedding pictures are semi-important memoirs for them and far too important for me to ever want to be responsible for their production. In other words, oh, hell to the no, I ain't shootin no GD weddings!! I don't want ragin hormone bridezillas or mother-in-laws breathing down my neck!! Those that do, good on ya!! You are much stronger than I am. Jul 26 12 05:04 pm Link http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wui-PNqJrxs That sums it up, in 11 seconds of Disney cartoon. On a different note, how dated will a clean, nice, well composed shot be in 30 years, compared to modern "editorial", "photojournalistic", "softfocus" etc style? we just don't know... Jul 26 12 05:06 pm Link MKPhoto wrote: I think this is a very valid point. Some will want the images that are in fashion at the time and want that reflected in the images when they look back on them many years later. It captures both the event and the time in which the event took place. Others may opt for a more timeless approach. I don't think either is more valid than the other...just a matter of taste. Jul 26 12 07:03 pm Link Eric Lefebvre wrote: Yes, you are. If your friend is happy enough to hire him, that means he is good enough for your friend. That also means your concern is not your friend's problem, It's yours. Jul 26 12 07:08 pm Link Food should be provided for the photographer and assistant Jul 26 12 07:15 pm Link Lee_Photography wrote: fixed it 4ya Jul 26 12 07:23 pm Link I think your post shows that you probably already knew the answer to your question before you asked it and you should have been able to handle this on your own. ... and yeah. I try to not say unkind things about other photographers as a rule; it just never helps anything. There's really just nothing to be gained for anyone by calling someone out like this. Jul 26 12 07:24 pm Link Assuming a contract has been signed, there's not much your friend can do about the decision. At best it would make your friend dissatisfied (or more dissatisfied) with the decision. At worst, it could be taken as your questioning/criticizing his (or his finacee's) judgment. If asked, you could give your opinion, but I wouldn't dwell on it. Doing something that might cause your friend to feel a need to take sides between you and her might not work out so well. Jul 26 12 07:25 pm Link Camerosity wrote: just imagine the trainwreck thread on here about finding a new photographer for a wedding in under two weeks time! Imagine the legal threads. Just imagine... Jul 26 12 07:29 pm Link Run far far away from this one. Your friend made their decision and now they get to live with it. Also you really can't tell from online just how the prints will look or any other produced work. Its an overall feel and that's about all. The work I saw looked good enough to get the job done. Not fine art portraiture but definitely good enough. If you feel that bad about it then ask the photographer if you can shoot some candid's at the reception just for grins and giggles. And offer your friend a bridal shoot for free. There you go... Feeling better? Jul 26 12 07:37 pm Link I would have to say it is in your best interest to tell them: as far a food for the photographer; is to have a place set up some where not to far away for the main table but not to close to it either. She must like what she saw in his web site, in her opinion. Me I would not hire him. Jul 26 12 07:38 pm Link George Ruge wrote: I get asked to do weddings... I tell them no... I stay away from weddings... friend of mine asked if I could shoot his daughters' wedding... I gave him a list of wedding photographers... Jul 26 12 07:51 pm Link I personally like the timeless classic wedding photos. The samples you provided were crisp and clean. My wife and I did the same, no one told us about the style or mentioned anything poorly about it. Our photographer ended up being a scam and to this day we don't have any pics of our wedding, but nonetheless some people like simplicity. And I am breaking the carnal rule here (spoiler alert) but I looked through your photos and didn't find anything that would have made you a better choice. It would have been an even swap. Leave your friend alone, this is just another example of a photogs wanna be controlling nature. Jul 26 12 07:56 pm Link The OP mentioned the photographer's work on his website appeared "dated". Well, it looks like to me, from the various styles of the wedding gowns, that the photographer has been photographing weddings for many years and has a collection of images from the span of those years on his website. Jul 26 12 08:03 pm Link Augustine York wrote: If you will do the wedding in a see-through gown, I'll come down and shoot it for you. TF. Jul 26 12 11:59 pm Link the lonely photographer wrote: OP is a wedding photographer. jus' sayin' Jul 27 12 10:00 am Link "Making someone else look worse doesn't make you look better" Alvin Henderson 1930-2009. Love ya dad. Jul 27 12 10:06 am Link Eric Lefebvre wrote: You certainly can't insult those people who insulted you for thinking you insulted someone else, or they would run to a mod. Jul 27 12 09:45 pm Link i would abstain from bashing the guys work most of his images are well exposed,and traditionally that is most of what is required for wedding and that type of photography you said,his style is dated .....it might ,,but it can also be seen as classic for wedding photography instead of getting trendy looking images that will fade in style sooner JMHO http://www.facebook.com/pages/Oscar-Par … 5282818143 Jul 27 12 09:56 pm Link AVD AlphaDuctions wrote: ya i avoid shooting for friends especially weddings... Jul 27 12 10:06 pm Link its really not any of your business in my opinion Jul 27 12 10:09 pm Link Most weddings I've worked I have been offered both food and drink. If the photographer wants it than he/she should simply request it. Especially if you're talking about an all day event. As far as your opinion about the other photographer's ability...I'd keep that to myself. That is their decision to make. If you're invited, go, be happy, and make their day that much more special by simply supporting them as a good friend. Not a photographer. Jul 27 12 10:10 pm Link the lonely photographer wrote: Good advice I wish I could heed. Jul 28 12 05:08 am Link I would leave it alone. Either you were: Too expensive They did not like your work Not a good fit The did not want to ruin a friendship And so on. Answer the advise they ask for and let it be. Good luck. Jul 28 12 08:04 am Link The two examples listed as "dated" could also be considered "classic". Perhaps they want images that won't look dated in 10-100 years? I know I have images all the way back to my grandparents wedding (during the early days of photography and the start of the 20th century). Normally people take unsolicited advice like this poorly, and coming from another wedding photographer sour grapes. Jul 28 12 08:20 am Link Brian T Rickey wrote: Wait for me!!!! Jul 28 12 08:25 am Link |
