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Photographer

RKD Photographic

Posts: 3265

Iserlohn, North Rhine-Westphalia, Germany

This is why I've decided I no longer mind models who bring escorts to TFP shoots...

This was the driver.

First time in front of the camera.

An absolute natural - I rattled off about 300 frames in about 30 minutes at the end of the 'proper session'.

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8452/8070343646_d82935b8dc_c.jpg

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8029/8070347079_9c21f8da00_c.jpg

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8309/8070340542_70b070270a_c.jpg

I told her I want to book her in for an afternoon as soon as she has some spare time...

Oct 07 12 11:58 am Link

Photographer

Orca Bay Images

Posts: 32449

Poulsbo, Washington, US

You do know the difference between an escort and a driver, right?

Oct 07 12 12:04 pm Link

Photographer

AJ_In_Atlanta

Posts: 12885

Atlanta, Georgia, US

Well I am glad you thought it was productive but I don't think this will change many people's opinion of the subject...

Oct 07 12 12:04 pm Link

Photographer

MDWM

Posts: 699

Los Angeles, California, US

maybe she'll bring a driver or escort with her

Oct 07 12 12:06 pm Link

Photographer

M Pandolfo Photography

Posts: 12117

Tampa, Florida, US

Would you have felt the same if the model's "driver" had been a 300 lb male biker with a restraining order and the tattoo "Hulk Smash" across his bicep?

Oct 07 12 12:06 pm Link

Photographer

Sungoddess Studios

Posts: 5169

Atlantic Highlands, New Jersey, US

Oct 07 12 12:11 pm Link

Photographer

RKD Photographic

Posts: 3265

Iserlohn, North Rhine-Westphalia, Germany

Michael Pandolfo wrote:
Would you have felt the same if the model's "driver" had been a 300 lb male biker with a restraining order and the tattoo "Hulk Smash" across his bicep?

As long as he let me have a play on his Harley, no...lol

Oct 07 12 12:18 pm Link

Photographer

RKD Photographic

Posts: 3265

Iserlohn, North Rhine-Westphalia, Germany

Orca Bay Images wrote:
You do know the difference between an escort and a driver, right?

She was initially described as an 'escort' by the model... It then transpired after I enquired as to whether the model needed travel-money that she was also the driver.

Oct 07 12 12:19 pm Link

Photographer

RKD Photographic

Posts: 3265

Iserlohn, North Rhine-Westphalia, Germany

AJScalzitti wrote:
Well I am glad you thought it was productive but I don't think this will change many people's opinion of the subject...

Nor mine TBH, my regular policy will always be 'no llama herders' - unless of course I decide otherwise.


You have to admit though, she wears a nice pair of jeans... big_smile

Oct 07 12 12:21 pm Link

Photographer

RKD Photographic

Posts: 3265

Iserlohn, North Rhine-Westphalia, Germany

MDWM wrote:
maybe she'll bring a driver or escort with her

I guess it'll be the 'model' from today's shoot...lol

Oct 07 12 12:22 pm Link

Photographer

Jay Farrell

Posts: 13240

Nashville, Tennessee, US

Orca Bay Images wrote:
You do know the difference between an llama herder and a driver, right?

1

Oct 07 12 01:20 pm Link

Photographer

Jay Farrell

Posts: 13240

Nashville, Tennessee, US

AJScalzitti wrote:
Well I am glad you thought it was productive but I don't think this will change many people's opinion of the subject...

+2

Oct 07 12 01:21 pm Link

Photographer

John Wishard

Posts: 1896

Fallbrook, California, US

I've had several instances where the model brought a friend that I enjoyed shooting...sometimes more than the model I had invited. I keep an open mind on llama herders/drivers/friends coming to shoots. Some of my favorite shoots were because of the husband's excitement with what we were creating. smile

Oct 07 12 01:30 pm Link

Photographer

SitronStudio

Posts: 1065

Venice, Florida, US

Some of my favorite models have been friends that tagged along. The only time I say no is when a model says they're bringing their "manager" or "security".

Oct 07 12 03:10 pm Link

Model

Amber West

Posts: 296

Dumfries, Scotland, United Kingdom

Wow... she is stunningly hot!

Oct 07 12 03:13 pm Link

Photographer

Tom Linkens

Posts: 6425

Lititz, Pennsylvania, US

Michael Pandolfo wrote:
Would you have felt the same if the model's "driver" had been a 300 lb male biker with a restraining order and the tattoo "Hulk Smash" across his bicep?

Eh, ask to get some photos of him on & leaning against his Harley after the actual photoshoot.

Oct 07 12 03:22 pm Link

Photographer

Art of the nude

Posts: 11915

Olivet, Michigan, US

Orca Bay Images wrote:
You do know the difference between an escort and a driver, right?

This.

If a beautiful woman brought the model and was going to leave after dropping her off, that's not an escort.  If a second person came along to model, that's not an escort.

If the model said that you couldn't be trusted to be alone with her, and she needs someone there "for my protection", or "to make me comfortable," THAT is an escort.

Oct 07 12 03:33 pm Link

Photographer

Brian T Rickey

Posts: 4008

Saint Louis, Missouri, US

I'm not going to get involved with the whole escort thing here, but I will say that yea, she is a stunning women.

Oct 07 12 03:42 pm Link

Photographer

Black Dog Studios RI

Posts: 279

Providence, Rhode Island, US

Michael Pandolfo wrote:
Would you have felt the same if the model's "driver" had been a 300 lb male biker with a restraining order and the tattoo "Hulk Smash" across his bicep?

It's biceps.

Sorry, this is one of those pet peeves that drives me way crazier than it rationally should.

Now returning you to your regularly scheduled escort thread...

Oct 07 12 03:52 pm Link

Photographer

Wolfy4u

Posts: 1103

Grand Junction, Colorado, US

Despite your good luck, most objections to escorts still remain.
The last time I agreed for a female 'best friend' who's interested in photography
to be an escort, the model actually showed up with her mother who spent the entire
shoot make faces at her daughter because she claimed it helped relax her. I  couldn't do much because the shoot was on location.
Another problem with escorts, is that you then have two people who might have complications that cancel the shoot. "My driver/escort/manager" has to appear in court..." etc.

I've never had a young female escort cause problems, but boyfriend/managers are the worst, and husbands, mothers and male 'friends' are a 50/50 gamble at best.

Oct 07 12 04:03 pm Link

Photographer

Shot By Adam

Posts: 6525

Las Vegas, Nevada, US

http://www.shotbyadam.com/images/escortaward.jpg


AJScalzitti wrote:
Well I am glad you thought it was productive but I don't think this will change many people's opinion of the subject...

+1

Oct 07 12 04:08 pm Link

Photographer

BloominGael Photography

Posts: 267

Bloomington, Indiana, US

I don't mind escorts coming so long as their's no implied threat or attitude.  If there's attitude about it, I just won't do the shoot.  Model brought her boyfriend to the last shoot, but he was also a model and helped with the shoot.  Entirely depends on the individuals involved.  It's too iffy a world these days to not allow escorts if a model wants one.

Oct 07 12 04:12 pm Link

Photographer

Ken Marcus Studios

Posts: 8604

Los Angeles, California, US

Whew ! !

For a moment there, I was afraid that there wouldn't be an llama herder thread this week.

Thank god someone came to their senses and started one.

KM

Oct 07 12 04:14 pm Link

Photographer

Art of the nude

Posts: 11915

Olivet, Michigan, US

BloominGael Photography wrote:
I don't mind escorts coming so long as their's no implied threat or attitude.  If there's attitude about it, I just won't do the shoot.  Model brought her boyfriend to the last shoot, but he was also a model and helped with the shoot.  Entirely depends on the individuals involved. It's too iffy a world these days to not allow escorts if a model wants one.

Well, no.  Personally, I don't consider myself "iffy."  Same with many others.  I find that things work out much better when I am not shooting with someone who fears me, isn't comfortable with me, or who feels justified in bringing someone to threaten me.

Oct 07 12 04:23 pm Link

Photographer

Syosset Studio

Posts: 296

Syosset, New York, US

ANOTHER PHOTOGRAPHER'S MODEL'S ESCORT:

http://photos.modelmayhem.com/photos/091002/20/4ac6c4f216e5d_m.jpg

Oct 07 12 04:24 pm Link

Photographer

JDF Photography

Posts: 1922

Marengo, Ohio, US

@RKD- just my opinion but I'd say the driver was a bonus!

Oct 07 12 04:30 pm Link

Photographer

Naughty Ties

Posts: 3223

Riverview, Florida, US

RKD Photographic wrote:

You have to admit though, she wears a nice pair of jeans... big_smile

Yes she does but with that bangin' ass she'd look awesome even in a potato sack. Boy did you luck out!

Oct 07 12 04:38 pm Link

Photographer

Blue Ash Film Group

Posts: 9768

Cincinnati, Ohio, US

I'm still trying to process the 300 shots in 30 minutes face. That's approximately one shot every six seconds. Other than a wedding or some other type of event, I have hardly ever taken 300 shots in a complete day of shooting.

Oct 07 12 04:48 pm Link

Photographer

RacerXPhoto

Posts: 2495

Brooklyn, New York, US

Last one that was proposed to me was Husband/Manager
He was to have say over creative aspects of the shoot like an art director
Told model this was totally unacceptable and she quickly backed off her request.
I thought maybe its was some kind of wacky test(I've had model tell me they test togs by asking if escort is ok even if they have no intention of bringing one)
Needless to say I failed and dropped said couple like a piece of molten lead

Oct 07 12 06:40 pm Link

Photographer

Jhono Bashian

Posts: 2432

Cleveland, Ohio, US

AJScalzitti wrote:
Well I am glad you thought it was productive but I don't think this will change many people's opinion of the subject...

OP you lucked out on this one but I have to stand tall with AJ on this! 
The same old beaten to death forum with a happy ending.
No Parking for escorts in front of my building.

Oct 07 12 06:46 pm Link

Photographer

rp_photo

Posts: 42507

Houston, Texas, US

RKD Photographic wrote:
This is why I've decided I no longer mind models who bring escorts to TFP shoots...

This was the driver.

First time in front of the camera.

An absolute natural - I rattled off about 300 frames in about 30 minutes at the end of the 'proper session'.

Others who come with the model for whatever stated reason are actually hoping to also get to model, which appears to be the case here, especially if she showed up dressed that way.

Oct 07 12 06:59 pm Link

Photographer

All Yours Photography

Posts: 2398

Toledo, Ohio, US

This shoot was almost 3 years ago.  I knew the model was bringing a friend with her, but I didn't know until they arrived that the friend wanted to pose also.

You tell me which was the model and which was the friend.

mild 18+
http://modelurl.com/allyoursphoto/photo … 45452.aspx
http://modelurl.com/allyoursphoto/photo … 45451.aspx

Oct 07 12 07:55 pm Link

Photographer

Eridu

Posts: 623

Boston, Massachusetts, US

Michael Pandolfo wrote:
Would you have felt the same if the model's "driver" had been a 300 lb male biker with a restraining order and the tattoo "Hulk Smash" across his bicep?

Better that than the model having a "Crush, Kill, Destroy" tat across hers.

Oct 07 12 07:57 pm Link

Model

Odette Delacroix

Posts: 150

Los Angeles, California, US

Ken Marcus Studios wrote:
Whew ! !

For a moment there, I was afraid that there wouldn't be an escort thread this week.

Thank god someone came to their senses and started one.

KM

Haha, I was hoping this would be a thread about models who do escorting as well. So much for finding a date tonight.

Oct 07 12 09:14 pm Link

Photographer

Kevin Connery

Posts: 17219

El Segundo, California, US

Odette Delacroix wrote:
Haha, I was hoping this would be a thread about models who do llama herdering as well. So much for finding a date tonight.

smile

A model asked if she could bring her boyfriend to a shoot. I said yes, and I'm glad I did.

http://photos.modelmayhem.com/photos/111009/17/4e9237e3b9bd5_m.jpg

Oct 07 12 09:21 pm Link

Photographer

Art Silva

Posts: 9621

Santa Barbara, California, US

I hired an Escort one night that also models on the side, it's more common than you think.

... oh wait, you meant THAT kind of escort, sorry my mistake tongue

Oct 07 12 11:31 pm Link

Photographer

Shot By Adam

Posts: 6525

Las Vegas, Nevada, US

All Yours Photography wrote:
This shoot was almost 3 years ago.  I knew the model was bringing a friend with her, but I didn't know until they arrived that the friend wanted to pose also.

You tell me which was the model and which was the friend.

mild 18+
http://modelurl.com/allyoursphoto/photo … 45452.aspx
http://modelurl.com/allyoursphoto/photo … 45451.aspx

Care to post this question in the critique section?

Oct 08 12 12:08 am Link

Photographer

Jirrupin

Posts: 1744

Canberra, Australian Capital Territory, Australia

likewise, i was less than upset with this escort..

http://www.modelmayhem.com/portfolio/pic/20453086

Oct 08 12 01:25 am Link

Photographer

Jirrupin

Posts: 1744

Canberra, Australian Capital Territory, Australia

likewise, i was less than upset with this escort to a tfp shoot..
http://photos.modelmayhem.com/photos/101126/10/4ceff71ed5670.jpg

Oct 08 12 01:25 am Link

Photographer

Rich Burroughs

Posts: 3259

Portland, Oregon, US

So we're ok with them as long as they're hot?

Awesome.

Oct 08 12 01:42 am Link