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fluffycakes

Posts: 446

Chicago, Illinois, US

Yep

Oct 11 13 03:02 pm Link

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Dea and the Beast

Posts: 4796

Saint Petersburg, Florida, US

Aye.

Low fat, hormone free and full of 0 negative.

Which the idiots from the blood bank do not want.
As i may or may not have mad cow disease....see if that shit happens when someone wants a kidney or some marrow or summat...

Oct 11 13 03:10 pm Link

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Virtual Studio

Posts: 6725

Toronto, Ontario, Canada

Eurocat wrote:
Aye.

Low fat, hormone free and full of 0 negative.

Which the idiots from the blood bank do not want.
As i may or may not have mad cow disease....see if that shit happens when someone wants a kidney or some marrow or summat...

Eat beef in the 1980's?

That's why they dont want mine either. Prion carier.

Because the UK was honest about havign BSE unlike the USA who covered it up.

Oct 11 13 04:22 pm Link

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Dea and the Beast

Posts: 4796

Saint Petersburg, Florida, US

Virtual Studio wrote:

Eat beef in the 1980's?

That's why they dont want mine either. Prion carier.

Because the UK was honest about havign BSE unlike the USA who covered it up.

I was born in the 80's. Far from the UK.
But  most of western Europe is assumed by the American Red Cross to have BSE.
Contact high i guess.
It upset me.
I have prime juice and wanted to do a noble thing but my potentially contaminated stuff ain't good enough, even for dying people.

Oh well.

Oct 11 13 04:33 pm Link

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MesmerEyes Photography

Posts: 3102

Galveston, Texas, US

Eurocat wrote:
Aye.

Low fat, hormone free and full of 0 negative.

Which the idiots from the blood bank do not want.
As i may or may not have mad cow disease....see if that shit happens when someone wants a kidney or some marrow or summat...

You don't have mad cow disease, you're just a crazy "heifer".  wink (That's a term of endearment where I'm from before anybody takes offense)
I can't donate blood either, at least not until I'm dead.

Oct 12 13 01:53 am Link

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Lilith Von Dahlia

Posts: 123

Newcastle, New South Wales, Australia

I wasn't.
But after watching some really lame medical shows on TV I changed my answer.

Oct 12 13 02:10 am Link

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Dea and the Beast

Posts: 4796

Saint Petersburg, Florida, US

MesmerEyes Photography wrote:

You don't have mad cow disease, you're just a crazy "heifer".  wink (That's a term of endearment where I'm from before anybody takes offense)
I can't donate blood either, at least not until I'm dead.

Yea the Texans love their cattle big_smile

Oct 12 13 01:02 pm Link

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Nemi

Posts: 27413

Jamaica, New York, US

I am not. I used to be though.
I cannot donate blood, as I received growth hormone therapy and that disqualifies you for life. I can't imagine they'd take an organ if they won't even take my blood.
Regardless, I have a connective tissue disorder that noticeably effects almost every organ in my body, particularly the useful ones. I doubt they'd take my body if I offered it, but just in case, no. I couldn't hand my body parts to someone else with a clear conscious.

Oct 12 13 02:22 pm Link

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matt-h2

Posts: 876

Oakland, California, US

Looknsee Photography wrote:
(I'm not, but I'm old and in questionable health -- my organs wouldn't be of much help to anyone).

I am, and you should be as well. The following is from the Mayo Clinic's web site:
http://www.mayoclinic.com/health/organ-donation/FL00077

Myth: I'm too old to donate. Nobody would want my organs.

Fact: There's no defined cutoff age for donating organs. The decision to use your organs is based on strict medical criteria, not age. Don't disqualify yourself prematurely. Let the doctors decide at your time of death whether your organs and tissues are suitable for transplantation.

Myth: I'm not in the best of health. Nobody would want my organs or tissues.

Fact: Very few medical conditions automatically disqualify you from donating organs. The decision to use an organ is based on strict medical criteria. It may turn out that certain organs are not suitable for transplantation, but other organs and tissues may be fine. Don't disqualify yourself prematurely. Only medical professionals at the time of your death can determine whether your organs are suitable for transplantation.

Oct 12 13 02:33 pm Link

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Isis22

Posts: 3557

Muncie, Indiana, US

Why not donate your body to science if they won't take your organs?

Oct 12 13 02:40 pm Link

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Michael Bots

Posts: 8020

Kingston, Ontario, Canada

What about basic ethics, "errors", outright murder and theft?


Syracuse hospital patient awakens just before organs were to be harvested
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/nationa … -1.1393821

Girl smuggled into Britain to have her 'organs harvested'
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/ … ested.html

Chinese organ trafficking ring dismantled
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldne … ntled.html

First case of people trafficking for organs uncovered in UK
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/ … in-UK.html

Kosovo physicians accused of organ trafficking racket
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldne … acket.html

Illegal organ trade on the rise, say world health experts
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/health/healt … perts.html

Patient Presumed Dead Wakes Up Moments Before Organ Donation Surgery
http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/263170.php

CDC confirms rabies death in organ transplant recipient
http://www.cdc.gov/media/releases/2013/ … rgans.html

Four charged over US bones theft
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/4742844.stm
"US authorities have charged four men with looting bones and body parts from more than 1,000 corpses and selling them for medical transplants."
http://www.theguardian.com/media/2005/dec/23/bbc.usnews

Biomedical Tissue Services
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Biomedical_Tissue_Services

Refugees face organ theft in the Sinai
http://edition.cnn.com/2011/11/03/world … smugglers/

Organ snatchers of the Sinai desert
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article … Cairo.html

Turkish Officials are using Syrians for Organ Harvesting
http://www.globalresearch.ca/turkish-of … ng/5334010

Haiti PM: Traffickers targeting Haiti's children, human organs
http://amanpour.blogs.cnn.com/2010/01/2 … nce-quake/

Indian Victims Relate Horror of Kidney Theft
http://abcnews.go.com/Health/story?id=4224506

Organ trafficking was long considered a myth. But now mounting evidence suggests it is a real and growing problem, even in America.
http://mag.newsweek.com/2009/01/09/not- … egend.html

Oct 19 13 04:45 pm Link

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misszara

Posts: 6715

Seoul, Seoul, Korea (South)

Virtual Studio wrote:
I quite simply dont see why anyone would not want to be.

Heaps of reasons. Might not even be the persons choice.

I know over here even if it says you'll donate someone needs to sign off and a lot of families won't do it.

We also just had an interesting thing happen where an organ was offered to an infamous criminal. He rejected it saying someone better deserved it.

Oct 19 13 06:47 pm Link

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FFantastique

Posts: 2535

Orlando, Florida, US

http://www.helplivingdonorssavelives.org

Donate a dollar--or more...or a kidney for Christmas! :-)

Dec 20 14 04:03 pm Link

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Dea and the Beast

Posts: 4796

Saint Petersburg, Florida, US

I can''t even donate blood in the US ( 0 neg.. Universal, hormone -free, low-fat) because I was born in the 80s some 650 miles from mad- cow-tragedy land. deadhorse ( I already said so in the same thread... Thread resurrection are so confusing.. Better not donate my brain)

I am however registered as organ donor. Nobody asks any questions there...


I just learned that my 20-year old cousins kidney has begun to die..
May just have to step up and give her one of mine while I''m still around.

Dec 20 14 04:12 pm Link

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Click Hamilton

Posts: 36555

San Diego, California, US

I am not marked to be harvested indiscriminately. That idea doesn't appeal to me.

I'm pretty sure I would do what I can to help my family and friends in life or death situations. I may want to help strangers too, but I want to be the guy who makes that executive decision.

My body, my choice.

Dec 20 14 06:53 pm Link

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Jay Dezelic

Posts: 5029

Seattle, Washington, US

I have had the organ donor status on my drivers license since the option started in my state back in the eighties.

The concern has always been in the back of my mind that it would not take much for an unscrupulous medic to pocket some cash in marginal situations. 

Now that everything is so inter-connected (and world demand is increasing in countries that previously did not have transplant options), the risk of foul play is probably higher.

If I were younger, I am not sure if I would want to risk being documented as "harvestable" in some hacked national database.  I think I would just have the authorities check with next of kin to eliminate temptation.

Dec 20 14 07:29 pm Link

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Jennifer J Walsh

Posts: 103

Las Vegas, Nevada, US

Warning: Soap box rant about to begin in 5, 4 3 2

I am a strong advocate to organ donation.  If you are desiring to donate your organs, checking the box on your DL (in the US) is not enough.  If that was enough, we would not have a shortage of organs in the us.  what IS important is to tell your loved ones, not just tell your loved ones, but to ensure they 1000% know your intentions. 

You must put yourself in the place of the physicians when end of life decisions are being made.  They are approaching a family and friends who are completely shell shocked about the impending death (no matter how long the disease process took) to explain the intense process to keep your loved one alive longer and undergo hours and hours of surgery.  It is not an easy conversation for a physician to have.  This is where YOU (as the person desiring for your organs come in) tell your Mds, tell your family members, tell the paramedics - tell everyone you know so that when you are in the grips of death and unable to speak for your self your family and friends can.  I do not blame the MDs they are in a delicate situation, but - it is the responsibility of us, those who want our organs to be donated - to educate those around us of our wishes.

Dec 20 14 10:35 pm Link

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Justin

Posts: 22389

Fort Collins, Colorado, US

I''ve already responded to this thread, but......

You can decline and have your body part(s) decay into the ground or into a sealed casket.

Or you can save a life, or vision, or attend to basic needs of another human.

One seems more efficient and helpful than the other, but maybe I have a simplistic view.

Dec 21 14 01:41 am Link

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FFantastique

Posts: 2535

Orlando, Florida, US

Click Hamilton wrote:
I am not marked to be harvested indiscriminately. That idea doesn''t appeal to me.

I''m pretty sure I would do what I can to help my family and friends in life or death situations. I may want to help strangers too, but I want to be the guy who makes that executive decision.

My body, my choice.

People are discriminated against now: they can be psychologically cleared, physiologically OK but then denied because they can''t afford to.
Acceptance of funds for having a spouse accompany to assist can be construed as criminal and risk $50K fine and 5 years! :-(

So there is too much discrimination and even those who choose to can''t and then potential recipients die...at the rate of about 1/hour. Not very ethical when we can fix with legislation AND it could save money. Getting someone off of dialysis saves lots of money!

Dec 21 14 03:37 am Link

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FFantastique

Posts: 2535

Orlando, Florida, US

Jay Dezelic wrote:
I have had the organ donor status on my drivers license since the option started in my state back in the eighties.

The concern has always been in the back of my mind that it would not take much for an unscrupulous medic to pocket some cash in marginal situations. 

Now that everything is so inter-connected (and world demand is increasing in countries that previously did not have transplant options), the risk of foul play is probably higher.

If I were younger, I am not sure if I would want to risk being documented as "harvestable" in some hacked national database.  I think I would just have the authorities check with next of kin to eliminate temptation.

Listed as organ donor too. Stats show that less than 1 in 100 get transplanted due to disease, damage, distance from hospital.
If everyone signed up we''d probably get another 5K--still not ''nuf.

Idea is NOT to create a marketplace to make us targets for malfeasance but remove the financial disincentives and allow people to donate without going into the hole. So they can be made financially whole! ;-)

Dec 21 14 03:45 am Link

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FFantastique

Posts: 2535

Orlando, Florida, US

Jennifer Walsh - TPS wrote:
Warning: Soap box rant about to begin in 5, 4 3 2

I am a strong advocate to organ donation.  If you are desiring to donate your organs, checking the box on your DL (in the US) is not enough.  If that was enough, we would not have a shortage of organs in the us.  what IS important is to tell your loved ones, not just tell your loved ones, but to ensure they 1000% know your intentions. 

You must put yourself in the place of the physicians when end of life decisions are being made.  They are approaching a family and friends who are completely shell shocked about the impending death (no matter how long the disease process took) to explain the intense process to keep your loved one alive longer and undergo hours and hours of surgery.  It is not an easy conversation for a physician to have.  This is where YOU (as the person desiring for your organs come in) tell your Mds, tell your family members, tell the paramedics - tell everyone you know so that when you are in the grips of death and unable to speak for your self your family and friends can.  I do not blame the MDs they are in a delicate situation, but - it is the responsibility of us, those who want our organs to be donated - to educate those around us of our wishes.

There is certainly a ton of education to be done! In the last 30 years I have spent about a man month studying and still feel under educated on the global policy issues...link to follow!

http://lcp.law.duke.edu
Duke Law > Duke Law Scholarship Repository > Journals > LCP > Vol. 77 > No. 3 (2014).
Current issue of Law and Contemporary Problems is devoted to Organs and Inducements. About 350 pages of well-researched and documented data, proposals, history, concepts, etc.

Dec 21 14 03:51 am Link

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FFantastique

Posts: 2535

Orlando, Florida, US

Justin wrote:
I''''ve already responded to this thread, but......

You can decline and have your body part(s) decay into the ground or into a sealed casket.

Or you can save a life, or vision, or attend to basic needs of another human.

One seems more efficient and helpful than the other, but maybe I have a simplistic view.

Thanks for reminder!
Buried or burned when it can save a life seems unconscionable--concur.

However, the idea here is to allow living kidney donors to be able to afford to donate one of their spare kidneys, if they choose too! :-)

Dec 21 14 03:54 am Link

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Dea and the Beast

Posts: 4796

Saint Petersburg, Florida, US

Jennifer Walsh - TPS wrote:
This is where YOU (as the person desiring for your organs come in) tell your Mds, tell your family members, tell the paramedics - tell everyone you know so that when you are in the grips of death and unable to speak for your self your family and friends can.  I do not blame the MDs they are in a delicate situation, but - it is the responsibility of us, those who want our organs to be donated - to educate those around us of our wishes.

I ain''t got nobody... No kin, no regular doctor, nobody to hand a POA to...

It''s either my drivers license or a guessing game.

Where''s Nurse Jackie when you need her. hmm

Dec 21 14 09:02 am Link