NothingIsRealButTheGirl wrote:

The point is that same-sex marriage is now an official part of Episcopalianism, so same-sex marriage is now a Christian rite, and therefore one that must be recognized by all Christians.

That is, of course, unless you don't recognize Episcopalian weddings.

same sex marriage was voted on and became law....that law doesn't invalidate the right to religious freedom. Much the way I think anybody ought to have their ass kicked who stomps on the flag, they STILL have the Constitutional right to do so. You CANNOT take away a person's freedom of religion. You ALSO cannot fire them for expressing their religious freedom. You don't like that...move to a country which doesn't have a Bill of Rights.

FlirtynFun Photography wrote:
same sex marriage was voted on and became law....that law doesn't invalidate the right to religious freedom. Much the way I think anybody ought to have their ass kicked who stomps on the flag, they STILL have the Constitutional right to do so. You CANNOT take away a person's freedom of religion. You ALSO cannot fire them for expressing their religious freedom. You don't like that...move to a country which doesn't have a Bill of Rights.

The Episcopal Church now officially APPROVES religious weddings for gay couples.

Not "tolerates."

Not "performs under duress."

APPROVES.

Gay Weddings are part of at least one sect of the Christian religion now.

NothingIsRealButTheGirl wrote:

The Episcopal Church now officially APPROVES religious weddings for gay couples.

Not "tolerates."

Not "performs under duress."

APPROVES.


Gay Weddings are part of at least one sect of the Christian religion now.

And yet there are religiogoobers that want to force children in all public schools against their will to be taught the earth is 6000 years old and everything was created by a Christian God...

As a libertarian that actually does believe in religious freedom,my take is this
Religion is like a penis....its cool to have,but if you shove it in my face against my will,the person connected to it gets his head forcibly soved up his ass...

Chris Rifkin wrote:
As a libertarian that actually does believe in religious freedom,my take is this
Religion is like a penis....its cool to have,but if you shove it in my face against my will,the person connected to it gets his head forcibly soved up his ass...

I know what you mean.

I'm the same way about Libertarianism!

John Photography wrote:
I applaud this too .....

I am worried about the almost certain fallout this will bring from the other side of politics..

Exactly here.

NothingIsRealButTheGirl wrote:

I know what you mean.

I'm the same way about Libertarianism!

NothingIsRealButTheGirl wrote:

I know what you mean.

I'm the same way about Libertarianism!

So basicly you are offended by people who wish that government would not intrude on their lives financially then?
you just proved flirty's point about being intolerant of other views becase it upsets you that people can be completely successful in life without government intervening or helping in any way,and have the ability to come from nothing  and to make it to the point they can retire early with mid to high 7 figure savings and retirement because they had the work ethic and made the right decisions in life to do so...

See...libertarians are tolerent of a lot of things because we believe in freedoms all across the board.
we also don't want to police the world ,but instead take care of ourselves,and let ourselves as a nation be powerful in all aspects,and by doing thatmake the world a better place.
but when someone from Cali who is addicted to govt and has by his own actions put a cap on how successful he is (and because the govt caps success as well)..tries to tell me its not fair I have made everything myself through my own hard work and (the last 7 or so years)decision making and calls me selfish and greedy and tells me I offend hm by these actions and want government to punish me for being successful(which every one of your posts sans the social issues have been since the now defunct forum),
Go back to comparing religion to a dick...
Except substitute religion with social marxism.....

Tony From Syracuse wrote:
its safe to say belief in creationism is on the decline....that means that less people believe in the biblical notion of creation today.......yet by that same token...that means that previous generations 20-50 years ago most likely ..did..believe in biblical creation.   did mankind go to the moon.....did they have leaps in the medical field...did they come up with great ways to solve crime? yes they did.  so never believe this notion the youth will be poisoned by hearing about creation.

thing is...people can operate just fine juggling the spiritual with the scientific. atheists cry wolf just to be silly.
atheists in the end really are just wind up artists.  see one thing you learn as you get older is that as you watch belief drop....the situation of the world remains par for course.
if the day comes and religion dies and atheism is king.....its going to be a big case of "meet the new boss....just the same as the old boss".

If anything the people holding on to creatism and want to push it are highly likely the ones who are the huge bigots(as one spect of creatism is a foundation to justify racism)

One thing about religion,the big 3,is all three have their own versions of an end times and a great war,but each version has their own ending with a winner and loser....
Its not a prophacy when its a self fulilling one because human nature is what it is when they have been fighting over which invisible man in the sky is the right one for thousands of years...And now we have the technology to make these "visions" come true..

Except the sad thing is that there won't be any winners in the end,if this does come to pass

Chris Rifkin wrote:
And yet there are religiogoobers that want to force children in all public schools against their will to be taught the earth is 6000 years old and everything was created by a Christian God...

clearly they are being misinformed ..


if they're being taught that the earth is (~) 6000 years old,

then, everything would have been created by a Jewish God.


Christian God didn't come around for another (~) 4000 years.

by then all the heavy lifting was already done by the Jewish God


who was also considerate-enough to get rid of  the dinosauruses

r T p wrote:


clearly they are being misinformed ..


if they're being taught that the earth is (~) 6000 years old,

then, everything would have been created by a Jewish God.


Christian God didn't come around for another (~) 4000 years.

by then all the heavy lifting was already done by the Jewish God


who was also considerate-enough to get rid of  the dinosauruses

Uh.  yeah...and this is exactly why this should not ever be allowed in public schools...
Except the dinosaurs...becasue they actually existed

r T p wrote:


clearly they are being misinformed ..


if they're being taught that the earth is (~) 6000 years old,

then, everything would have been created by a Jewish God.


Christian God didn't come around for another (~) 4000 years.

by then all the heavy lifting was already done by the Jewish God


who was also considerate-enough to get rid of  the dinosauruses

Uh.  yeah...and this is exactly why this should not ever be allowed in public schools...
Except the dinosaurs...becasue they actually existed

Chris Rifkin wrote:
Go back to comparing religion to a dick...
Except substitute religion with social marxism.....

But you are the one who brought up the subject of how religion and dicks are cool to have.

I'm just saying how cool Libertarianism is to have. Same as you are saying how cool social marxism is to have.

Right?

Chris Rifkin wrote:
So basicly you are offended by people who wish that government would not intrude on their lives financially then?

Libertarians are usually people who refuse to recognize and pay their debts. That's a more accurate description.

They want all the benefits of living in a society, but they don't want to pay for all the benefits they derive from it.

Chris Rifkin wrote:
Uh.  yeah...and this is exactly why this should not ever be allowed in public schools...
Except the dinosaurs...becasue they actually existed

well, if dinosauruses were allowed in school they would eat all the kids

and then where would mankind be?


luckily the Jewish God had the foresight to get rid of the dinosauruses

NothingIsRealButTheGirl wrote:

Libertarians are usually people who refuse to recognize and pay their debts. That's a more accurate description.

They want all the benefits of living in a society, but they don't want to pay for all the benefits they derive from it.

Wow,you are so ignorant and mis informed....

Libertarians are all about PAYING  for THEIR OWN benefits WITH THEIR OWN money THEY EARN FROM THEIR OWN HARD WORK AND DECISION MAKING.....WITHOUGH ANY GOVERNMENT INTERFERENCE OR HELP!


And most libetratians carry little if any personal debt and spend within their means...and want their government to operate as efficiantly ...

Something neither political party has proven to be able to do for decades....

But I can see how you resent my very existance because I don't worship the religion known as government,and because I don"t believe my efforts should be for the "good of all people"


Carry on,you are what I thought you were....

r T p wrote:


well, if dinosauruses were allowed in school they would eat all the kids

and then where would mankind be?


luckily the Jewish God had the foresight to get rid of the dinosauruses

But what about Barney?

NothingIsRealButTheGirl wrote:
Libertarians are usually people who refuse to recognize and pay their debts.

Chris Rifkin wrote:
And most libetratians carry little if any personal debt

Very little that you will acknowledge and recognize, anyway.

Like I said.

Chris Rifkin wrote:
But I can see how you resent my very existance because I don't worship the religion known as government,and because I don"t believe my efforts should be for the "good of all people"

Libertarians are generally pretty good on social issues. It's just the economic ones where they faceplant.

And nobody is anything but selfish, when you get down to it. Nothing wrong with that; it's how we are wired.

It's just that some people are ALSO able to see their own self interest in the bigger picture and the longer view, while other people only see the the tiny, short term, self-serving stuff.

Chris Rifkin wrote:
Uh.  yeah...and this is exactly why this should not ever be allowed in public schools...
Except the dinosaurs...because they actually existed

When regarding dinosaurs, it depends on if one looks at the big picture view ...or.... the atheist view...ie..the dinosaurs were just some creatures who didnt make the cut.nothing more.cut and dried.

but then if you look at the religious big picture view like everything is part of a larger plan.......for a purpose...imagine this world without fossil fuel for mankind. if it wasnt for the extinction of the dinosaurs....we wouldnt have had the resources to get where we are today.

but we religious see the big plan.atheists just see chance.

Tony From Syracuse wrote:
but then if you look at the religious big picture view like everything is part of a larger plan.......for a purpose...imagine this world without fossil fuel for mankind. if it wasnt for the extinction of the dinosaurs....we wouldnt have had the resources to get where we are today.

but we religious see the big plan.atheists just see chance.

That would mean the expulsion from the Garden of Eden was all part of God's plan.

Chris Rifkin wrote:
But what about Barney?

unlike the bibles and their gods, Barney, as gently as i can say it, isn't real

NothingIsRealButTheGirl wrote:
That would mean the expulsion from the Garden of Eden was all part of God's plan.

Possibly more like a foregone conclusion ..than a plan.

but I hear scientists talking about how earth is in something called a goldilocks zone, or planet...I dont know how much more
we could have going for us considering on top of life coming to be.... it just so happens life that gained consciousness....and food and fruit and vegetables for said life....fossil fuel so we could create industry and advancements.stocked with animals,and oceans and land.

we see the big picture. atheists dont.

Tony From Syracuse wrote:
Possibly more like a foregone conclusion ..than a plan.

Perhaps it was all predestined, then... that creation thing. Not an act of will at all, just a foregone conclusion.  Hm.

Tony From Syracuse wrote:
but I hear scientists talking about how earth is in something called a goldilocks zone, or planet...I dont know how much more
we could have going for us considering on top of life coming to be.... it just so happens life that gained consciousness....and food and fruit and vegetables for said life....fossil fuel so we could create industry and advancements.stocked with animals,and oceans and land.

we see the big picture. atheists dont.

No, that's incorrect. We do see the big picture. We just know that it's just a big image on a big screen, being projected.

Anyway, back to the thread topic: All counties in Alabama are now complying with the law of the land!

NothingIsRealButTheGirl wrote:

Libertarians are usually people who refuse to recognize and pay their debts. That's a more accurate description.

They want all the benefits of living in a society, but they don't want to pay for all the benefits they derive from it.

Libertarians are just Republicans in denial.

(Now stop sending me to this thread people! I can't take much more stupid.)

Model Sarah wrote:

Libertarians are just Republicans in denial.

(Now stop sending me to this thread people! I can't take much more stupid.)

Uh no and wrong .......


And yeah....the stupid is really melting my brain here

Chris Rifkin wrote:

Uh no and wrong .......


And yeah....the stupid is really melting my brain here

Mine too!

Chris Rifkin wrote:
And yeah....the stupid is really melting my brain here

Jerry Nemeth wrote:
Mine too!

Soon they'll be completely thawed and ready for thinking!

salvatori. wrote:
Can't find it, but did a MOD ever answer my questions about why this thread is still here?

O_o

Can you stop threadjacking, please?

We are trying to have a serious clusterfuck.

salvatori. wrote:
Can't find it, but did a MOD ever answer my questions about why this thread is still here?

O_o

I generally stick with "if it ain't broke, don't fix it". Mods tend to shut threads down when they see fit. Sometimes threads that usually get locked before the first reply don't get locked at all. Other times, those that are seemingly going well get locked for no apparent reason.  ??? Whatever the case, if this thread has been mostly civil, why rush to have it locked?

I'll admit to not having followed it for all 15 pages but I did look at a few and didn't see any hidden posts (maybe I didn't look at the right pages). Even if there were/are 8 or 10 hidden posts, I'd say that's mild for a thread that is into it's 15th page now. If there were 8 or 10 on the first page, I wouldn't complain if it got locked but I don't think this topic is divisive or controversial.

If a person doesn't want to have love or party time in their life at least sometimes, perhaps they should check their pulse.

NothingIsRealButTheGirl wrote:
Can you stop threadjacking, please?

We are trying to have a serious clusterfuck.

x1000

That does it. I'm starting a thread that talks about ordained ministers who go into politics who have sex with farm animals and then make a shitload of money with porn, which of course puts them into the 1% of society, which allows them to buy more votes when they go to church, and leer at kids to get into their filthy porn vids, and, well you get the idea.

Since this is a photography site, I'll recommend that the kids are wearing caution tape and standing on RR tracks.

Lovely Day Media wrote:

I generally stick with "if it ain't broke, don't fix it". Mods tend to shut threads down when they see fit. Sometimes threads that usually get locked before the first reply don't get locked at all. Other times, those that are seemingly going well get locked for no apparent reason.  ??? Whatever the case, if this thread has been mostly civil, why rush to have it locked?

I'll admit to not having followed it for all 15 pages but I did look at a few and didn't see any hidden posts (maybe I didn't look at the right pages). Even if there were/are 8 or 10 hidden posts, I'd say that's mild for a thread that is into it's 15th page now. If there were 8 or 10 on the first page, I wouldn't complain if it got locked but I don't think this topic is divisive or controversial.

If a person doesn't want to have love or party time in their life at least sometimes, perhaps they should check their pulse.

I understand the whole "if it ain't broke, don't fix it" mentality, and think it's a good one. I was merely questioning the fact that the forum rules simply forbid this topic from even being presented. The fact that it is civil isn't germane to the situation.

After all, if I started a thread asking for 'reputable porn producers' it would simply be shut down as it just isn't allowed to even be broached, no matter how civil, helpful or informative.

thierry  wrote:
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did you know about this product ?

no need to go pump your self to look bigger in the picture !

Its perfect ! you save time and the photographe's time too !

great product you should check it out !

next time i will have mine !

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Is there one that reduces it?

That's the one I need!

thierry  wrote:
Hi guys , I was in Las Vegas last week for a shoot for a underwear , guys were wearing the push pants ! by tboch.experience

did you know about this product ?

no need to go pump your self to look bigger in the picture !

Its perfect ! you save time and the photographe's time too !

great product you should check it out !

next time i will have mine !

www.tboch.ca

And what in the wide world is this nincompoople?

thierry  wrote:
Hi guys , I was in Las Vegas last week for a shoot for a underwear , guys were wearing the push pants ! by tboch.experience

did you know about this product ?

no need to go pump your self to look bigger in the picture !

Its perfect ! you save time and the photographe's time too !

great product you should check it out !

next time i will have mine !

www.tboch.ca

And what in the wide world is this nincompoople?

kickfight wrote:
Well, thankfully, all the deliberate attempts to derail this thread continue to fail, and that's good, because this thread continues to actually be about a historic move forward in terms of protecting the true ideals of this nation, and anyone who isn't interested in celebrating that can simply avoid this one thread out of hundreds on the MM forums.

Here is a great ON-TOPIC article about how Rick Hodges (yep, the defendant in Obergefell v. Hodges) read from the bible at the wedding of his longtime friend Steve George, who married his partner Jeff Gatwood yesterday.

Mr. Hodges still believes marriage is between a man and a woman, but far, FAR more importantly, he believes in celebrating his friend's happiness.

Maybe we can all learn a lesson from Rick Hodges and apply that to this thread from here on in, yes?

But what does this have to do with push pants ?

Chris Rifkin wrote:
But what does this have to do with push pants ?

Push pants are also important, I suppose. Only a whole lot less important.

Anyway, whatever you do, DON'T buy your push pants from tboch.ca