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RANT!!!! Since when did curvy=obese?
Okay, sure I might get slammed for saying this, but hear me out. I have no problem with larger women calling themselves curvy IF they actually are (waist a good degree smaller than the hips/bust), but I hate how "curvy" has become synonymous with "fat." For instance, although only 120 lbs, I am curvy woman by virtue of my proportions, yet when I mention that I'm curvy people seem to want to argue this with me, saying that I'm too thin to be curvy. I recently ran across a portfolio on here of a 200-something pound woman who described herself as a "curvy model," yet her measurements were 44-40-44....hmmm, a four inch difference? Hardly curvy, just very large. Does anyone else have any input on the matter? Does this bother other models who actually are curvy (be you large or small, it's all about proportions)? Aug 30 05 10:29 pm Link I agree. Curvy implies multiple curves, not just one round ball of person. Aug 30 05 10:36 pm Link Hey!!! ...those are my measurements  ...and I'm 245lbs thank you very much... Oh wait I am a photographer...HA!! I guess I am one sexy "curvy" man  Sorry to stray and I bet I most likely just gave you mental images you didn't want but I couldn't resist. I really don't have an opinion because as a guy anything I say in this areana is WRONG. Yes, I am married and well trained, night night. Aug 30 05 10:36 pm Link It's part of the reason that whenever I describe myself as curvy, I usually add "with a well-defined hourglass figure". Seems to keep the confusion down. I agree, 4" bust-waist-hip difference is not curvy, no matter what the weight. (Unless you're shorter than 4'10". :p) Aug 30 05 10:45 pm Link I got really angry watching an interview with one of the models in that new Dove ad. She went to a modeling agency and was told "Sorry, we don't represent plus sized models". She is a size six. I guess if she can be a plus sized model, this other one can be curvy. I am overweight by quite a bit. I would NEVER call myself curvy (nor am I just one round ball, I do have curves but, I am fat pure and simple *grins*). I don't know. I prefer to judge models based on their photos and not their descriptions. Aug 30 05 10:51 pm Link Jeanette Thompson wrote: That's ridiculous, size 6 too large?!?! However, judging from their latest ads Dove used women up to about a size 12 it seems (which still isn't fat and barely into "plus size" in the modeling world). Maybe she underestimated her size? I don't know though, as I didn't see it. Aug 30 05 10:55 pm Link In answer to your question; when it became profitable to MegaKorps. "You're not obese, you're curvy. It's OK, eat more and get more curves. Buy our soap, buy our fat food, buy our huge clothing. We love you just the way you are and so will the hospital, the doctors and Oprah. Don't change. It's OK." The obese nature of Americans is very unhealty and spawns a whole culture of massive consumption. My g/f's nephews and neices would rather sit in the house and play video games than go outside and play ball. Yes, they are all very "curvy". Aug 30 05 10:57 pm Link Kram wrote: You sound right on the money (no pun intended). That's sad, people really need to focus on health in this country, even if you're larger...sure some people are naturally a bit larger, but no one's body was ever meant to be 300 Lbs. (most of my family weighs this or close, so I am sensitive to the issues larger people have...but I also see how horribly they eat and then blame it on genetics. Although, granted some people do have medical issues that do cause weight gain w/no fault to the person). Aug 30 05 11:03 pm Link I think it boils down to a "eye of the beholder" thing. I try not to define my self beyond that I am not of average size. Everyone has their own way to discribe/view something. Its part of the american way [ almost a cancer if you ask me] people beleive that THEY must be right and if you don't aggree your wrong. Like I got chewed once for saying I was a plus size model. I defined it as "Larger then Average size", averagebeing like 0-8 in a dress size. I didn't define it by a like defined Dress size, i generlized the tearm against someone who was all about tagging people what they thought they were. I do aggree with you thought you can't say your cuvy if you really aren't. the 44-40-44 doesn't sound really curvy. Maybe she just think's she is because someone told her she was. But either way, everyone is 'intitled' to their opinion.. just remember that. Or the oldie but a goodie " Opnion's are like a$s holes..everyone's got one.." Just my two cents though. Aug 30 05 11:03 pm Link WoW.. This talk is intense!!! I am told I need to lose lbs all the time.. I am 34-26-36!! I am concidered to curvy for a lot of shoots!! Crazy huh Aug 30 05 11:05 pm Link Indeed, people are entitled to their own opinions, BUT within reason when it comes to what certain terms mean. From the dictionary: Curvaceous: (adjective) : having curves suggestive of a well-proportioned feminine figure. Not much to argue there, and well-proportioned by medical standards is for women to have a waist that is at least 8-12 (or more!)" smaller than the hips, ratios over that are generally viewed as less attractive according to studies, less fertile, and more prone to heart disease, diabetes, and so on. Aug 30 05 11:10 pm Link Stephie V wrote: That is crazy! I'm larger than that: 34dd-26-38, andI'm not a large lady by any means. People are so warped. Aug 30 05 11:12 pm Link Alright...I'll probably get slamed for this, but, here goes...If a person that has a weight problem and knows about it ssits around eating six-dollar bugers all the time, well, then, they know about it about it and don't care about them selves. If a person knows that they weight 200 and do what they can about staying as healthy as they can, then, leave them the hell alone! Basically...As has been said for a really, really, really long time..."Do not judge a book by it's cover". Aug 30 05 11:35 pm Link io wrote: I guess I'm defined curvy then from the waist down.. 43-40-53 Aug 30 05 11:37 pm Link Im curvy from the bottom, But I wouldnt consider myself all-around curvy....I have small breasts and full hips and a curvy butt....However larger women do consider themselves curvy but to each is own right?  Aug 30 05 11:41 pm Link Doug Harvey wrote: If they eat healthy and work out and still weigh that then they either A. Have a lot of muscle B. Are fairly tall C. Have a real medical problem, and that's all well and good, as I have mentioned before. Read my previous posts and you will see that I am in no way harrassing overweight people. I would never dream of it, my grandmother/best friend/basically my mom was 250lbs, and was the most amazing and beautiful woman on the planet to me. I'm not slamming weight, I'm just aggravated by words being twisted to fit what they aren't. Aug 30 05 11:44 pm Link angelavasquez wrote: It's all about waist-hip ratio, boobs can add to the look, but you don't need big boobs in my opinion to be curvy. I never said that you couldn't be large and curvy, I have a friend who models and is 5'10", 220 lbs, and is a 38DD/30/45...VERY curvy, and it looks great to me! Aug 30 05 11:46 pm Link theda wrote: LMAO... THAT is exactly what I explain to people... except that I say "...not one single curve ending in a circle" Aug 31 05 08:53 am Link theda wrote: this made me chuckle too. Aug 31 05 08:59 am Link Curvy became synonymous with fat when fat became a four letter word. Personally, I prefer fat to euphemisms that are meant to be kind, but are really just condescending. Stuff that. Fat is an adjective, no more or less. It's no worse than describing someone as tall, short, thin, or purple polka dotted. It's just a word. Get over it, people. Aug 31 05 09:23 am Link I travelled to Montreal a couple years ago. That was a real eye-opener to how fat we have become as a nation. Factor in cigarette usage up there if you will. They were still in MUCH better shape on average. I have nothing against someone who is "overweight" if they are living a healthy lifestyle. Genetics happen. I have known some "fat" women I consider very sexy and "curvy" even if the figure wasn't exactly an hour glass. It's the ones that say they are "curvy" or "fluffy" and wish things were different while super-sizing their lunch that I have issues with. Aug 31 05 10:07 am Link Shyly wrote: I think "curvy" became synonymous with "fat", when obese girls wanted to sound cuter and started to call themself "curvy" and "real women". Aug 31 05 10:17 am Link 'Obese' has been thrown around lately as an 'epidemic' in our country. Our kids are even being described as obese as young as grade school age. From what I've seen (on DHC, anyway) though, 30 pounds overweight and you are technically obese. Plenty of obese women try to cover up their obesity by calling it 'curvy' but I really don't see much of that here, especially with posters in this thread. 'Beautifully healthy' is more like it.  Aug 31 05 10:18 am Link Don't forget "thick". Another term of endearment. Aug 31 05 10:26 am Link groupw wrote: I would have to agree with this. I would add that it bugs the hell out of me when someone in this condition does the above and then turns to you and tell you that you are not eating right and you should eat more healthy....... and your in way better shape than they are. Aug 31 05 10:26 am Link Doug Harvey wrote: Yeah, but in the world of modeling (and the twisted little bizarro world of internet modeling) it's all about judging books by their covers. Aug 31 05 10:36 am Link Justin N Lane wrote: BING BING BING BING You just won the $10.....errr $5 prize... (tax and gas prices ya know) Aug 31 05 10:39 am Link Io keep in mind that ethnicity, age, and alot of other factors determine "obese"... For instance - if you're in say Huntington Beach Cali for instance, some might say obese... If you're Atlanta Georgia - some might say just right... If your audience isn't feeling you then simply deal with the ones that do..... WORD! Aug 31 05 10:43 am Link seriously, now when i think curvy i think FAT, and im like, why would ANYONE call themselves that? It's a four letter word now. Aug 31 05 11:31 am Link bebewood wrote: I call myself skinny. It's not a four letter word. People just made it seem that way. Fat people are taking that word back. Aug 31 05 11:33 am Link Udo R Photography wrote: this is why i NEVER want to be called a woman. i want to be a girl forever. The word woman is so taboo, so ugly, so disgusting nowadays. It reminds me of cellulite, of obesity, of anger, and of sagging.. Who wants to be like that! If that's a real woman, i am more than happy being a "little girl" or even a "little boy" Aug 31 05 11:39 am Link bebewood wrote: That's the way I thought until I actually BECAME one. Being a woman is much better than being 19. In my opinion. Aug 31 05 11:42 am Link The Art of CIP wrote: I agree with you on that one. Cutlure does identify with whats beautiful. I heard a while back that Brasilian Model Gisele Bundchen took a trip to the amazon to visit this village, The village chief said that she was very ugly and it would be hard for her to find a man if she lived in the village.....And here shes considered beautiful and a top model.....Go figure!!! Aug 31 05 11:49 am Link Lora wrote: Age to me doesent define if your a woman or not, its how you carry yourself and how you approach things, Im 19 going on 20 and Im a woman......I would be definitley insulted if anyone called me a little girl.... Aug 31 05 11:51 am Link It's all in what people want to see. I've [successfully] shot 120-pound models and 200-poung models. One of the models I most want to work with in the US weighs in excess of 300-pounds. Frankly, I find her more interesting than the majority of the "fashion/glamour" models around these days. If someone has the nerve to come before my camera, I'm defiitely willing to give them my best effort...If I don't then all the stuff on my profile is just idle talk...and the last thing I want to be called is a hypocrite. This is just my feeling on the matter of course; I don't claim to possess the absolute truth on any subject. And now back to our regularly scheduled thread. Aug 31 05 12:48 pm Link Avicdar wrote: I prefer the term "sturdy". The redhead model in my portfolio was larger than what would be deemed "Acceptable" in most modeling.... but the face of an angel. Aug 31 05 12:51 pm Link angelavasquez wrote: Mkay but I didn't mean it that way. I was referring to the way she described it. Aug 31 05 12:52 pm Link what if they are 40-50-38? Is that a curver, boldge, or a gut? Fat girls started calling them selves curvy when they started posting personal adds to try to make them selves sound sexy. Lets me real it's like going to a used car sales man. They have to talk up the car event though it should have been taken to the wrecking yard or they won't get the sale. This problem branched into modeling due to the fact that some weird fucking photogs think a fat chick stress testing a bath tub is art. Also we all know if she comes on here and says I'm a 26 year old 300lbs fat model chick with a pretty face that she isn't going to get many looks. Aug 31 05 01:36 pm Link bebewood wrote: A latina from LA thinks curvy is fat.. Wow.. The end is near!!! HAA! Aug 31 05 01:40 pm Link The Art of CIP wrote: hmmm sounds like someone should have worded that a little different. That comes across pretty fucked up if you ask me. Given the fact that you're black I would hope you would watch your words a little better. I'm not trying to start any shit but bro you sure where pushing the fuck out of crossing the line deal. Aug 31 05 02:50 pm Link |
