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Photographer

udor

Posts: 25255

New York, New York, US

I am not a makeup artist and I don't pretend to be one.

Also: DO NOT TURN THIS INTO A PRO/ANTI TATTOO THREAD!

There are enough of those out there and this is just to educate about the options of covering it up.


I am simply incredibly annoyed about those inane discussions of tattoos versus no-tattoos and how those "evil markings" make it impossible for models to work in the industry and so forth.

Now... every good stylist and makeup artist knows Dermablend!

But it appears, that too many photographers are clueless... and models with tattoos, or who plan to get tattoos have simply no idea about this common product in the industry and it's widespread use.

So, I boldly declare:

Models, if you feel that you want to follow a human tradition that reaches into paleolithic times and adore your body through the (mostly) painful process of inserting ink into your skin, because of your very personal, spiritual or other important meanings*:


                                                    JUST DO IT!



I don't really expect photographers to go out and buy Dermablend for every skin tone and model that they are working with, if they are too cheap to hire a MUA, but it's important to know the option they have.

There is no need to turn down an amazing model, with amazing facial features and a great body... the perfect look, because she has a butterfly (symbol of change and growth) on her shoulders or ass antlers.

I actually suggest that a semi and full time professional model, that has tattoos, should have her own set of the Dermablend products with the EXACT shade of her skin tone (there are 16 shades), to be always prepared to apply those to cover the tattoo/s or let the MUA do it for them.

Anyway... here is my non-MUA recommendation:

Dermablend products for their specific skin shade.

Here's what you need to cover the tattoo:

Leg and Body Cover Crème and instructions and instructional videos on how to apply are on that website too.

Then you need the Loose Setting Powder, which is stabilizing the coverage up to 16 hours.

So... photographers... now you have so many more models to chose from and don't have to boycott those that immersed themselves into deeper levels of human experience.


Toodles

udor

Click here to see my own tattoos.


P.S.: Please feel free to add your own tips, tricks and products on how to cover tattoos!  smile



* I take tattooing very serious and I do not recommend anybody to get a tattoo unless it is really very well thought out and you are fully aware of the social implication it may have in your present and future life, because there ARE implications! If you ARE aware and you know it's worth it... get one but think hard about the meaning, have it drawn up and hang it for four months over your bed. If you still want it after four months... get it!

Aug 29 07 02:02 pm Link

Model

Napally

Posts: 765

Leeds, Alabama, US

Thank you for posting this thread.

Seriously smile

Aug 29 07 02:06 pm Link

Photographer

RB Media Photography

Posts: 160

Little Rock, Arkansas, US

That was very interesting. I've never heard of that product but then again, I have several tattoos so they don't bother me. But to me, unless the tattoo covers a lot of area, it would be cheaper and easier to just remove it in PS.

Everyday I learn something new on this site, thanks for today's lesson smile

Aug 29 07 03:28 pm Link

Model

Christine R Z

Posts: 49

Toronto, Ontario, Canada

interesting and great to know! thanks for this post

Aug 29 07 03:32 pm Link

Photographer

Manuel Rego

Posts: 1954

Worcester, Massachusetts, US

Dermablend's great.  Another product I keep on hand for models to use is Sally Hanson Airbrush Legs.  It doesn't have quite the same covering powers of Dermablend, but I've used it with models who've had tattoo's on their legs and it works well.  It'll last for the duration of most shoots, and it only costs about $7 (a can's only good for two or three applications though).

Aug 29 07 03:51 pm Link

Photographer

udor

Posts: 25255

New York, New York, US

Napally wrote:
Thank you for posting this thread.

Seriously smile

Glad this was informative!

Aug 29 07 05:38 pm Link

Model

Xana

Posts: 443

Titusville, Florida, US

I luv you<  :

Aug 29 07 05:42 pm Link

Model

Less Than Two

Posts: 23401

Ann Arbor, Michigan, US

It says it is water-resistant.
This could be a good thing...

Aug 29 07 05:42 pm Link

Model

Tanya Dal

Posts: 3960

\hijack

omg Udor you are freakin hot
https://img6.modelmayhem.com/070314/13/45f83799dad01_m.jpg

/end hijack

Aug 29 07 05:42 pm Link

Model

Mz Krystal

Posts: 34

Miami, Florida, US

Now this was very informative !!! THANKS !!!

Aug 29 07 05:44 pm Link

Model

Engel Schrei

Posts: 14458

Indianapolis, Indiana, US

Tanya Dal wrote:
\hijack

omg Udor you are freakin hot

/end hijack

I agree.

Aug 29 07 05:45 pm Link

Photographer

udor

Posts: 25255

New York, New York, US

Tanya Dal wrote:
\hijack

omg Udor you are freakin hot
https://img6.modelmayhem.com/070314/13/ … ad01_m.jpg

/end hijack

Engel Schrei wrote:
I agree.

Uhmmm... thanks!

But... that is a photo from 2001 and I gained muscle mass, but also a potbelly (my hiatus is also designed to get rid of that and look like this in my picture again).

I am currently looking like my "armpit" photo and the black & white portrait that Sita Mae did of me.

I only chose that photo, because it shows the front part of my tattoos...!

Aug 29 07 05:57 pm Link

Model

sofija

Posts: 23614

Boston, Massachusetts, US

Udo-
Let me just tell you that I had to use dermablend once and it made me look HORRIBLE! I looked bruised and diseased.
Good to know it works for some people but I would definitely suggest models trying it before a shoot to see how it works for them.

Aug 29 07 06:01 pm Link

Photographer

udor

Posts: 25255

New York, New York, US

Manuel Rego wrote:
Dermablend's great.  Another product I keep on hand for models to use is Sally Hanson Airbrush Legs.  It doesn't have quite the same covering powers of Dermablend, but I've used it with models who've had tattoo's on their legs and it works well.  It'll last for the duration of most shoots, and it only costs about $7 (a can's only good for two or three applications though).

Thanks Manuel;

After your post, I added the encouragement in P.S. so that others can share their tips and tricks.

Aug 29 07 06:33 pm Link

Photographer

udor

Posts: 25255

New York, New York, US

sofija wrote:
Udo-
Let me just tell you that I had to use dermablend once and it made me look HORRIBLE! I looked bruised and diseased.
Good to know it works for some people but I would definitely suggest models trying it before a shoot to see how it works for them.

Hmmm... there are 16 shades and it sounds like your skin tone wasn't "covered" (pun kinda intended!).

Jessalyn just posted in another thread that they hired her for a shoot with MGM, and just used Dermablend on her body to cover the large tattoos she has.

Aug 29 07 06:35 pm Link

Photographer

Scott Aitken

Posts: 3587

Seattle, Washington, US

I'll give Dermablend a try.

I shot one model who had a tattoo about the size of a softball right on his chest. It didn't look right for what I wanted, so, like you, I thought, well, I like the model, I'll just cover the tattoo with makeup.

It was only partly successful. The makeup did match his skin, and covered pretty well. However, this particular tattoo also resulted in slightly raised skin (I don't know why that happens to some people, but I've seen it before). So even if covered perfectly, there was still the slightly raised skin that showed if lit from the side or photographed at certain angles. The makeup also rubbed off on some of the black draping fabric we were using. So we had to reapply the makeup a couple times, and eventually had to abandon the fabric until I could wash it. There is also time involved in applying the makeup at the start of the shoot, and removing it at the end, which lengthens the duration of the photo shoot. In the end, I did get some good photos, but there were lots of photos I ended up tossing because the makeup was an imperfect solution.

I'll admit that I did this myself, rather than using a professional makeup artist. But I don't think it would have made any difference. The raised skin would still have been raised, pro MUA or not. And it would have smeared on the fabric, pro MUA or not. I would think you'd have to be careful with clothing and other things that could smear it too.

Makeup can be a solution to cover tattoos in some circumstances. But I think it is a mistake to say that it is a universal solution that will work for all models in any photo shoot, and encouraging them to go ahead and get inked.

For sure tattooed models should know about makeup options, and it would be very smart to have some on hand and know how to apply it themselves. And I agree that photographers should be aware that makeup can (sometimes) cover a tattoo perfectly so they don't have to spend days in Photoshop afterward.

Just be aware that there are limitations to the usefulness of covering tattoos with makeup.

Aug 29 07 09:17 pm Link

Model

Jessie-Lynne

Posts: 1857

Chicago, Illinois, US

Ill be purchasing some smile I normally use stage make up..

Aug 29 07 09:21 pm Link

Model

Tanya Dal

Posts: 3960

udor wrote:

Tanya Dal wrote:
\hijack

omg Udor you are freakin hot
https://img6.modelmayhem.com/070314/13/ … ad01_m.jpg

/end hijack

Uhmmm... thanks!

But... that is a photo from 2001 and I gained muscle mass, but also a potbelly (my hiatus is also designed to get rid of that and look like this in my picture again).

I am currently looking like my "armpit" photo and the black & white portrait that Sita Mae did of me.

I only chose that photo, because it shows the front part of my tattoos...!

still look fine to me,

any ideas if dermablend can be used on the face, i have a tiny mark on my nose (noticeable in my pics) and I have tried foundation, green concealer everything,

so I was thinking I could use it for that and then I would also have it for my tats, not that I have come across a photographer that asked me to cover them, infact I have got more work because of them

Aug 29 07 09:35 pm Link

Model

XtinaMaria

Posts: 9

Minneapolis, Minnesota, US

Hello All!
I have used dermablend to cover the large tattoo on my low back and it works fabulously. Its all about making sure that you don't use too much of the product or it doesn't blend well.

Christina Maria

Aug 29 07 09:40 pm Link

Photographer

udor

Posts: 25255

New York, New York, US

Tanya Dal wrote:
any ideas if dermablend can be used on the face, i have a tiny mark on my nose (noticeable in my pics) and I have tried foundation, green concealer everything,

so I was thinking I could use it for that and then I would also have it for my tats, not that I have come across a photographer that asked me to cover them, infact I have got more work because of them

If you look at the Dermablend site, you'll see that it's also being used to remove blemishes in the face, including dark circles etc.

Aug 30 07 12:45 am Link

Photographer

Mgaphoto

Posts: 4982

San Diego, California, US

great post... nothing but positive vibes big_smile

Aug 30 07 12:48 am Link

Model

Amanda Lyn

Posts: 638

Milwaukee, Wisconsin, US

does it work well for bruises? I would think so.  I am an active participant when I coach, and today I got some really good elbows to the bicep resulting in some not so pretty bruises. I've never been successful at covering them, even with my Ben Nye, which works for everything else...

*runs and gets some dermablend*

Aug 30 07 12:51 am Link

Photographer

udor

Posts: 25255

New York, New York, US

Scott Aitken wrote:
Makeup can be a solution to cover tattoos in some circumstances. But I think it is a mistake to say that it is a universal solution that will work for all models in any photo shoot, and encouraging them to go ahead and get inked.

Just be aware that there are limitations to the usefulness of covering tattoos with makeup.

Well, Dermablend is not just makeup, it's makeup specifically designed for cover ups.

And it appears that you need to know how and how much to apply until you are really effective.

Aug 30 07 12:51 am Link

Photographer

udor

Posts: 25255

New York, New York, US

XtinaMaria wrote:
Hello All!
I have used dermablend to cover the large tattoo on my low back and it works fabulously. Its all about making sure that you don't use too much of the product or it doesn't blend well.

Christina Maria

I think it's important to point that out.

Aug 30 07 12:52 am Link

Model

N i c o l e- Commercial

Posts: 10668

Lake Forest, Florida, US

thanks hottie Udor for the tips.


udor wrote:
https://img6.modelmayhem.com/070314/13/45f83799dad01_m.jpg

i tried it once on my hand (it was newer then and the sales associate didn't have a clue what she was doing) and my skin looked dull and dead (i described it as morge makeup)....

hopefully with the instructions (and a better makeup consultant), i'll be able to find a good shade....

Aug 30 07 05:27 am Link

Photographer

udor

Posts: 25255

New York, New York, US

( ANT ) Mgaphoto wrote:
great post... nothing but positive vibes big_smile

Thanks... that's how it should be... (until it's getting hijacked)... smile

Aug 31 07 02:35 pm Link

Model

Eden_L

Posts: 407

Amsterdam, Noord-Holland, Netherlands

Dermablend really sucks... I hate to tell ya. Dermablend really requires that you have almost every color within 5 shades of your skin tone to adequately blend a correct tone to match your skin. And the stuff dries out in the tube really fast too.

There are far better cover products out there. Movie quality airbrush makeup works great as well...lighter, better blending, and it doesn't age/crack like dermablend does.

Aug 31 07 02:39 pm Link

Makeup Artist

Cynthia Jade Farkas

Posts: 17

Toronto, Ontario, Canada

What a helpful post! I think it was really thoughtful of you to put this up.


As a makeup artist I say, Dermablend is alRIGHT (ish), but it lacks MANY shades. For example I'm super pale and they do not have one light enough for me.

I reccomend Dermacolor by Kryolan http://www.kryolan.com/en/Products/Camo … /Derma.htm

There are LOADS of shades and tons of neutralizers too. As well as different color setting powders.

It is 100% waterproof and obviously sweatproof. I don't know where else one can get it besides the net but at our store it sells for about $30 for a small pot that will last forever.

It also covers skin discolorations, bruises etc!

Yay Dermacolor!!

Aug 31 07 03:03 pm Link

Photographer

byReno

Posts: 1034

Arlington Heights, Illinois, US

udor wrote:
JUST DO IT![/b]


I don't really expect photographers to go out and buy Dermablend for every skin tone and model that they are working with, if they are too cheap to hire a MUA, but it's important to know the option they have.

There is no need to turn down an amazing model, with amazing facial features and a great body... the perfect look, because she has a butterfly (symbol of change and growth) on her shoulders or ass antlers.

I actually suggest that a semi and full time professional model, that has tattoos, should have her own set of the Dermablend products with the EXACT shade of her skin tone (there are 16 shades), to be always prepared to apply those to cover the tattoo/s or let the MUA do it for them.

Anyway... here is my non-MUA recommendation:

Dermablend products for their specific skin shade.

Here's what you need to cover the tattoo:

Leg and Body Cover Crème and instructions and instructional videos on how to apply are on that website too.

Then you need the Loose Setting Powder, which is stabilizing the coverage up to 16 hours.

So... photographers... now you have so many more models to chose from and don't have to boycott those that immersed themselves into deeper levels of human experience.


Toodles

udor

[

Sure, great information and all that but do you have any idea how many "A Photographer touched my ass!" threads you just initiated. smile

Aug 31 07 04:03 pm Link

Photographer

duds here

Posts: 397

Chicago, Illinois, US

It's called Photoshop!

Aug 31 07 04:23 pm Link

Model

Manda Mercure

Posts: 506

Windsor, Ontario, Canada

dermablend is great stuff. my old roommate had to use it for her father's wedding since her grandmother would have flipped! it was pretty easy to use (and i don;t use make up at all) and looked pretty good.

also good advice on tattoos in general. me and my husband are going for new ones soon... i've had a few drawn up for a while but i haven;t quite narrowed down what i want to do next.

Oct 30 07 07:35 pm Link

Model

theda

Posts: 21719

New York, New York, US

Cynthia Jade wrote:
What a helpful post! I think it was really thoughtful of you to put this up.


As a makeup artist I say, Dermablend is alRIGHT (ish), but it lacks MANY shades. For example I'm super pale and they do not have one light enough for me.

I reccomend Dermacolor by Kryolan http://www.kryolan.com/en/Products/Camo … /Derma.htm

There are LOADS of shades and tons of neutralizers too. As well as different color setting powders.

It is 100% waterproof and obviously sweatproof. I don't know where else one can get it besides the net but at our store it sells for about $30 for a small pot that will last forever.

It also covers skin discolorations, bruises etc!

Yay Dermacolor!!

I had the same problem with Dermablend.  I've been meaning to invest in the Kyolan, though.

Oct 30 07 07:52 pm Link

Model

Brian M Wilson

Posts: 10

Draper, Utah, US

udor wrote:
I am not a makeup artist and I don't pretend to be one.

Also: DO NOT TURN THIS INTO A PRO/ANTI TATTOO THREAD!

There are enough of those out there and this is just to educate about the options of covering it up.


I am simply incredibly annoyed about those inane discussions of tattoos versus no-tattoos and how those "evil markings" make it impossible for models to work in the industry and so forth.

Now... every good stylist and makeup artist knows Dermablend!

But it appears, that too many photographers are clueless... and models with tattoos, or who plan to get tattoos have simply no idea about this common product in the industry and it's widespread use.

So, I boldly declare:

Models, if you feel that you want to follow a human tradition that reaches into paleolithic times and adore your body through the (mostly) painful process of inserting ink into your skin, because of your very personal, spiritual or other important meanings*:


                                                    JUST DO IT!



I don't really expect photographers to go out and buy Dermablend for every skin tone and model that they are working with, if they are too cheap to hire a MUA, but it's important to know the option they have.

There is no need to turn down an amazing model, with amazing facial features and a great body... the perfect look, because she has a butterfly (symbol of change and growth) on her shoulders or ass antlers.

I actually suggest that a semi and full time professional model, that has tattoos, should have her own set of the Dermablend products with the EXACT shade of her skin tone (there are 16 shades), to be always prepared to apply those to cover the tattoo/s or let the MUA do it for them.

Anyway... here is my non-MUA recommendation:

Dermablend products for their specific skin shade.

Here's what you need to cover the tattoo:

Leg and Body Cover Crème and instructions and instructional videos on how to apply are on that website too.

Then you need the Loose Setting Powder, which is stabilizing the coverage up to 16 hours.

So... photographers... now you have so many more models to chose from and don't have to boycott those that immersed themselves into deeper levels of human experience.


Toodles

udor

Click here to see my own tattoos.


P.S.: Please feel free to add your own tips, tricks and products on how to cover tattoos!  smile



* I take tattooing very serious and I do not recommend anybody to get a tattoo unless it is really very well thought out and you are fully aware of the social implication it may have in your present and future life, because there ARE implications! If you ARE aware and you know it's worth it... get one but think hard about the meaning, have it drawn up and hang it for four months over your bed. If you still want it after four months... get it!

i waited 3 years to decide if i wanted mine or not. :-P

Oct 30 07 07:57 pm Link

Photographer

udor

Posts: 25255

New York, New York, US

Bump

Reason: Current threads are dealing with tattoos.

Nov 10 11 11:08 am Link

Model

Luna Diosa

Posts: 13242

Elizabeth, New Jersey, US

I am glad this is up very informative I will look into those products big_smile

Nov 10 11 11:12 am Link

Photographer

Through Elizabeths Eyes

Posts: 4916

Yelm, Washington, US

Zombie Man being transformed: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9mIBKifOOQQ

Behind the scenes: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aOt0AfC_ … re=related

All using Dermablend products.

Nov 10 11 11:16 am Link

Photographer

Terrell Gates

Posts: 1042

Santa Fe, New Mexico, US

I just paint them out with body paint for a whole different effect...

Nov 10 11 12:27 pm Link

Model

Ivanafox

Posts: 979

Healesville, Victoria, Australia

I have a pot of the Dermablend, but not that impressed to be honest. But I haven't used the setting powder they didn't have it in stock when i bought the Dermablend then Ididn't bother going back for it because the Dermablend doesn't really cover my tattoo any more effectively thyan a heavy foundation. Does the setting powder make the Dermablend more opaque?
Maybe it's because of the type of tattoo I have, small and all black but everything I've experimented with doesn't do anything better than to tone down tattoo so that it looks like a bruise.

Edit: i just noticed they have a tattoo primer which goes on before the Dermablend. I probably would need that for my dark tattoo.

Nov 10 11 05:42 pm Link

Photographer

udor

Posts: 25255

New York, New York, US

Ivanafox wrote:
Edit: i just noticed they have a tattoo primer which goes on before the Dermablend. I probably would need that for my dark tattoo.

Yeah... well... sometimes reading the instructions could be helpful... tongue

Nov 10 11 05:49 pm Link

Photographer

StrixPix

Posts: 8

Phoenix, Arizona, US

Through Elizabeths Eyes wrote:
Zombie Man being transformed: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9mIBKifOOQQ

Behind the scenes: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aOt0AfC_ … re=related

All using Dermablend products.

https://i44.tinypic.com/erbczp.jpg

Wonderful stuff.

Nov 10 11 05:55 pm Link