PYPI FASHION wrote:
Why not? Doesn't your camera work without a parent?

Without the smart ass remark..

Anyways.
I wouldn't do it. I don't shoot minors, and if I did.. you need protection from them being present.

AlphaPhotoandvideo wrote:
because of this
http://www.media-awareness.ca/english/r … _study.cfm

Are you shooting national ad campaigns for Calvin Klein?

Jason Bassett wrote:

Without the smart ass remark..

Anyways.
I wouldn't do it. I don't shoot minors, and if I did.. you need protection from them being present.

Yeah, because they might whip out a knife or a gun...

Jason Bassett wrote:

Without the smart ass remark..

Anyways.
I wouldn't do it. I don't shoot minors, and if I did.. you need protection from them being present.

Wouldn't that depend on the shoot? Hundreds of thousands of minors are photographed without their parents every year. Don't shoot a 12 year old girl in a Motel 6 modeling lingerie.

PYPI FASHION wrote:

Wouldn't that depend on the shoot? Hundreds of thousands of minors are photographed without their parents every year. Don't shoot a 12 year old girl in a Motel 6 modeling lingerie.

they are 17, i want to do HS Senior portraits in a public park

kellie dee wrote:
As long as his pants are on then I think you are good.

So it's cool if the photographer takes off his pants?

PYPI FASHION wrote:

So it's cool if the photographer takes off his pants?

LOL

AlphaPhotoandvideo wrote:

they are 17, i want to do HS Senior portraits in a public park

Keep your pants on and you're golden.

PYPI FASHION wrote:

So it's cool if the photographer takes off his pants?

Well if the Photog is shooting high-school portraits in a park Pants should be worn by all parties. Might want to include a parent, I hear High school portraits are getting very racy these days

Jason Bassett wrote:

Without the smart ass remark..

Anyways.
I wouldn't do it. I don't shoot minors, and if I did.. you need protection from them being present.

Need protection from them?? Protection from what exactly? Do minors have a tendency of going "Dawn of the Dead" on you if parents are around??

(If that were the case btw, I'm thinking parents arent the solution, more like a 12 gauge)

AlphaPhotoandvideo wrote:
so the FINAL answer is


OK, shoot without the parents

Yeah, I've shot with minors a ton of times, some of those times were without the parents present. Is there some sort of inherent problem with it? No. Only thing is just make sure any type of documents you want signed are done before hand because the model (in some states) cant really be signing any agreements or documents.

Plus your shooting senior portraits. Like what the hell could you do that would put in jail for shooting senior portraits? (unless you decide to, as has been suggested, take your pants off during the shoot)

EDIT: So answer is yes, go for it.

AlphaPhotoandvideo wrote:
Hey People....

Lets say I shot a minor model, of course one of the parents are present and signed a Model Release Form. NOw he contacts me for a second session but he said his parents are too busy to go to the shooting and they know i'm professional and there is nothing to worry..
WOuld you accept this shooting without being a parent present?


Your Advice is really appreciated....

Thanks

Call the parents on the phone. "Hey I'm planning to do a second shoot with your son, just wanted to verify that with you. We have scheduled it for 5PM on September 27th at Waterfront Park. We are doing senior portrait style pictures."

AlphaPhotoandvideo wrote:
so the FINAL answer is


OK, shoot without the parents

shoot the parents with a 12 gauge?  i find that a bit extreme, no?

PYPI FASHION wrote:

Wouldn't that depend on the shoot? Hundreds of thousands of minors are photographed without their parents every year. Don't shoot a 12 year old girl in a Motel 6 modeling lingerie.

I have modeled since 15 and still model for Bass Pro.  I would be more aware of the alarmists.  Never had a problem, and now never will.  And OMG, I even had class pictures done in High School while still a minor!

AlphaPhotoandvideo wrote:
they are 17, i want to do HS Senior portraits in a public park

I hope that you are charging!  If you are being paid to shoot their senior portrait, it is NOT necessary to have a parent present.   I got my senior portrait done by myself ... most 17 year olds can got to any studio, be it private or mall store and pay for their pictures.  It's not like buying booze or cigarettes.

If you are not some sexual pervert that children should fear, then there is nothing to fear of photographing children!  I have photographed thousands of children over the years in various settings.   It has been both financially and emotionally rewarding. 

I have charged for my photography work when it involved portraits, and I have shot TFP of child models too.  If I had an reason to shoot something that involved an underaged model, I may even pay the model. 

If you are fearful of being sued or false accusations, then I guess you just don't do it and live your life in fear never knowing what could have or couldn't be.

PYPI FASHION wrote:

Wouldn't that depend on the shoot? Hundreds of thousands of minors are photographed without their parents every year. Don't shoot a 12 year old girl in a Motel 6 modeling lingerie.

I use Super 8. The rooms are bigger.

Jason Bassett wrote:
Shooting minors is a waste of tie unless agency signed, or you know them.

The OP stated in a reply that it is for senior portraits.

To the OP, why not just discuss it with the parents?  They can give you a better answer than we can.

PYPI FASHION wrote:

So it's cool if the photographer takes off his pants?

Only if the photographer's parents are present.

Jason Bassett wrote:
Shooting minors is a waste of tie unless agency signed, or you know them.

Not when mommy and daddy is paying well for shots or their little princess.

Jason Bassett wrote:
Shooting minors is a waste of tie unless agency signed, or you know them.

Why is it a waste of time? It was hard growing up as a model (i started when i was 14) to hear comments like that from such narrow minded people >_

AlphaPhotoandvideo wrote:
Hey People....

Lets say I shot a minor model, of course one of the parents are present and signed a Model Release Form. NOw he contacts me for a second session but he said his parents are too busy to go to the shooting and they know i'm professional and there is nothing to worry..
WOuld you accept this shooting without being a parent present?


Your Advice is really appreciated....

Thanks

Mmmh... I'd ask to talk to a parent just to be sure. Cause you know, people these days are just crazy... they take anyone to court for anything !

PYPI FASHION wrote:
Why not? Doesn't your camera work without a parent?

+312

tereyn wrote:

Why is it a waste of time? It was hard growing up as a model (i started when i was 14) to hear comments like that from such narrow minded people >_

Gibson Photo Art wrote:

Not when mommy and daddy is paying well for shots or their little princess.

Definitely the exception to the "rule".

Jason Bassett wrote:

Definitely the exception to the "rule".

What about a 15yo with an amazing look and fashion model stats? You would pass her up just because she is 15?