Forums > Events > Yankee Air Museum Photo Shoot Grosse Ile

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Jerry Nemeth

Posts: 33355

Dearborn, Michigan, US

I'm interested.

Nov 16 09 06:33 pm Link

Photographer

Rohrvision Photography

Posts: 180

Baltimore, Maryland, US

dcsmooth wrote:
But they recently (within the past few weeks) moved the fleet of planes to the hangars at the Grosse Ile airport for the winter, which is about 30 miles to the southeast of Willow Run airport in Ypsilanti where they usually are.

The first post states the location where the shoot is going to be as Detroit? The title of this discussion says Grosse Ile.

Which is about 10 minute flying for the fleet, Also not sure which aircraft are going to be winter at Grosse Ile, the B-17/B-25/C-47 take up allot of room. And I know that bothe the 17 and 25 need major winter maintance to be done before the 2010 Airshow Season starts.

Nov 16 09 07:09 pm Link

Model

ILLIANA

Posts: 510

Ypsilanti, Michigan, US

The original yaf is in Willow Run, but their hanger burnt down; so they were borrowing a hanger to store things in; which is now getting revamped; So now they are storing the planes out in Detroit while the hanger is getting revamped and will be there until April when the hanger is done. Yet the offices are still in Ypsi.
   I will discuss with Ms. Frink about possibly seeing how the layout of the planes are in there; and if we can't get a few pulled out if its a nice day so the full lay of the plane can be viewed without others interrupting the shot.  All your questions will be answered tom.. Patience young jedi's... lol.

Nov 16 09 09:56 pm Link

Photographer

Kool Koncepts

Posts: 965

Saint Louis, Michigan, US

Interested...!!!

Please keep me posted.

Thx
Keith

Nov 17 09 03:30 am Link

Photographer

f11photography

Posts: 1163

Northville, Michigan, US

bump

Nov 17 09 06:21 am Link

Photographer

Jerry Nemeth

Posts: 33355

Dearborn, Michigan, US

ILLIANA wrote:
The original yaf is in Willow Run, but their hanger burnt down; so they were borrowing a hanger to store things in; which is now getting revamped; So now they are storing the planes out in Detroit while the hanger is getting revamped and will be there until April when the hanger is done. Yet the offices are still in Ypsi.
   I will discuss with Ms. Frink about possibly seeing how the layout of the planes are in there; and if we can't get a few pulled out if its a nice day so the full lay of the plane can be viewed without others interrupting the shot.  All your questions will be answered tom.. Patience young jedi's... lol.

It gets confusing when you say the planes are in Detroit!
Grosse Ile is a suburb of Detroit.  It is an island in the river.

Nov 17 09 06:28 am Link

Model

ILLIANA

Posts: 510

Ypsilanti, Michigan, US

Jerry Nemeth wrote:
It gets confusing when you say the planes are in Detroit!
Grosse Ile is a suburb of Detroit.  It is an island in the river.

There it is edited for your clarification.

Nov 17 09 07:55 am Link

Model

Lady Scarlett

Posts: 17

Detroit, Michigan, US

Let me know when! wink

Nov 17 09 10:46 am Link

Photographer

PF Dark

Posts: 946

Ypsilanti, Michigan, US

I feel special smile ... (illiana just called)

Even with a few of the minor details still unknown I know enough ( like the date will be the 5th ) to say that I will be there.  This is a once in a lifetime oportunity I can't miss.

Hopefully she will take me out there to get some preview shots of the areas. 

There are so many details I now know that I want to say but thats her job wink

BTW: Clint... BS, just because its in Ypsi and not downriver doesn't mean you cant make it, you have been to my studio before and its not as far as that drive... But if you can't then its just more models for us smile

Nov 17 09 01:36 pm Link

Photographer

PF Dark

Posts: 946

Ypsilanti, Michigan, US

Lumigraphics wrote:
Wow that would kick ass for some vintage pinups... big_smile

Just remember, no replacing the plane graphics with your own... and credit the YAM.  Wouldn't want to be on the bad side of the DoD, they just might send the IRS after you...

Nov 17 09 02:17 pm Link

Photographer

SPRINGHEEL

Posts: 38224

Detroit, Michigan, US

PF Dark wrote:
BTW: Clint... BS, just because its in Ypsi and not downriver doesn't mean you cant make it, you have been to my studio before and its not as far as that drive... But if you can't then its just more models for us smile

So its in Ypsilanti?

Nov 17 09 02:19 pm Link

Photographer

PF Dark

Posts: 946

Ypsilanti, Michigan, US

SPRINGHEEL wrote:

So its in Ypsilanti?

maybe im screwed up?  ill call

Nov 17 09 03:24 pm Link

Photographer

Lore-Li Photography

Posts: 4040

Saint Louis, Missouri, US

PF Dark wrote:

maybe im screwed up?  ill call

it was in ypsi until the hanger fire, they are storing the planes at grosse ile until they rebuild the hangers... but the main offices are still in ypsi but where the shoot will be is with the planes on grosse ile...i believe...

Nov 17 09 03:28 pm Link

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Timothy Nantz

Posts: 483

Thomasville, North Carolina, US

I'd LOVE to take part in this but you're too damn far away!
oh well...guess I'll talk to the pilot who owns the P-51D at the local airstrip here! wink

Nov 17 09 03:34 pm Link

Model

ILLIANA

Posts: 510

Ypsilanti, Michigan, US

Ok PF.. see what you get for stepping on my toes ahead of me?! I want to share my good news!

*Stands up on Soapbox*
Here ye.. here ye I have your answers....*....drum roll....*

*The Shoot will take place at Grosse Ile over by Detroit... NOT YPSILANTI.. Directions will soon follow.
*The Shoot date is Saturday December 5th, from 11a-5p. Doors will open at 10a for registration and set up... Please be there by 11. I would like to have everyone registered and checked in so i can get some shooting in also smile
*The museum is asking for a donation, so given the numbers that have showed interest and amount they have asked for; admission is going to be $30 for both photographers and models. MUAs and stylists are of course pardoned; as long as you stick to your roles.

**My contact said Nudes will be ok; but she has to get it approved by the board-so she is emailing them; and I will hear back from her shortly; More then likely yes.

*I will be updating the 1st post to show all this information and starting a participation list... so start giving me your yes's; Being interested doesn't count anymore.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Yankee Air Museum’s Features for the December 2009 Group Shoot

Yankee Friendship
Yellow Stinson
*Shooting area around exterior on the ground shooting, no interior or on top of Plane areas.
````````````````````````````````
Yankee Doodle Dandy
C-47 Transport-White Cap
*Shooting area around exterior on the ground shooting, “Possible” interior, and “possible on top of Plane Areas
```````````````````````````````````
Yankee Warrior
B-25 Dolittle Raider
*Shooting area around exterior on the ground shooting, “Possible” interior, and “possible on top of Plane Areas
```````````````````````````````````
~Best for Last~
Yankee Lady
B-17 WWII Bomber
*2010 will be its 75th anniversary
*Shooting area around exterior on the ground shooting, Interior cockpit, Interior Bombay Doors Foot Bridge, Front Nose Glass, and also Belly Turret.
`````````````````````````````````````
There will be time slot schedules for the specific shooting areas on the B-17, and also the other planes. So we aren’t shooting on top of each other. There is the whole other half of the hanger that can be utilized; as well as the outside of the hanger. I am currently waiting on contact from Airport Manager as to possibility of using other historic areas of the airport.
   *Message me as to areas wanted for what time slots.. That schedule will be available for selection once I have the areas confirmed and I will hopefully be getting pictures taken this week. I have one main picture of the hanger of which I will be getting scanned in tonight or tomorrow to show of the beauties. But for now here is a link to the planes pictures and history http://www.yankeeairmuseum.org/historic-aircraft.html

    There will also be a bulldog walking around the area enforcing the posted rules.  And to help with safety around the planes, certain areas cannot be walked on, or put pressure on. Best believe that there is a "If you bend it you buy it" policy in effect.
And these items are priceless!
************************************************
**Yankee Air Museum has asked that no alteration what so ever is done regarding the nose art on the planes; no replacing art piece, or deleting.
**Also EVERY final picture must and will have the Yankee Air Museum Logo somewhere on the photograph, whether printed or digitally displayed.
************************************************
Also as a general courtesy YAM has asked if we can send back a few examples of our work; when at the end of your developing stages you find a awesome photograph that displays your work well, if you could arrange to have the file sent to my (ILLIANA) email address I will then print and package them to take them over to their office. [email protected]

      This is our first impression to the museum so let’s make it a great one so we can be welcomed back in the spring when their new Museum opens!

Nov 17 09 04:16 pm Link

Photographer

SPRINGHEEL

Posts: 38224

Detroit, Michigan, US

Didn't see anything about nudes in there...

Nov 17 09 04:19 pm Link

Model

ILLIANA

Posts: 510

Ypsilanti, Michigan, US

Sorry I added it in there... My contact said yes- but she needs to get it approved by the museum board but more then likely yes.

Nov 17 09 04:28 pm Link

Photographer

SPRINGHEEL

Posts: 38224

Detroit, Michigan, US

ILLIANA wrote:
Sorry I added it in there... My contact said yes- but she needs to get it approved by the museum board but more then likely yes.

Thank you my dear

Nov 17 09 04:29 pm Link

Photographer

Jerry Nemeth

Posts: 33355

Dearborn, Michigan, US

Timothy Nantz wrote:
I'd LOVE to take part in this but you're too damn far away!
oh well...guess I'll talk to the pilot who owns the P-51D at the local airstrip here! wink

Fly the P-51D here!   smile

Nov 17 09 06:04 pm Link

Photographer

PF Dark

Posts: 946

Ypsilanti, Michigan, US

ya, im a dork... 
ill be there anyway even if i only shoot 2 or 3

Nov 17 09 06:13 pm Link

Photographer

Rohrvision Photography

Posts: 180

Baltimore, Maryland, US

Hi Illiana,

Great News, now I would like to chime in on all of these aircraft and some items you need to talk to the museum about and some heads up on some stuff you might encounter.

I'll start with Yankee Lady(B-17) ask the staff if they will wipe down the Main's (Tires) and the lower Strut so your models won't get any oil and grease on them. next ask them if they are going to remove the Pitol Cover(s).

Now onto the inside of the 17 for those who have never been inside of one it starts out narrow and gets wider after the Radio room. See if they will open up the Bombbay doors for you if so may I suggest you have some lights shinning up thru the Bombbay to give your photogos some lighting. If not then I suggest that you don't try to shot in the Catwalk of the Bombbay unless you plan on using Flash. The Radio Room is roomy enough to have two models in it one at the Radio Station and another in the jump seat. going into the Waist Postion this is where you can have lots of fun folks. Make sure you get a walk thru before you let folks go in so you know about walking around the Ball Turret. Models word of advice while walking thru the 17 bring a pair of slip on flats these planes were build for War and while their is a track walk it can be slippery to walk around in heals. One other item I see you are going to be able to shot in the nose FYI the only way you can get into the nose is to crawl down the tunnel something to think about.

Now onto the Yankee Warrior (B-25) once again make sure you ask the staff to wipe down the Mains and also make sure that the oil reliefs on the engines are plugged don't want to have oil dripping on anyone. Since there is a chance of you shooting inside. the only two areas to shot is the cockpit area and the waist positions. the cockpit is a drop down ladder and once again models bring slip on for getting in and out of the 25.  The Waist position has the same type of drop down ladder, while you can get three or four folks into this are I suggest break it up into two or three groups at a time do to the fact there isn't much room to move around inside the Waist/Tail section of the 25.

Now for Yankee Doodle (C-47) as I said before ask the staff for a wipe down on the Main's and strut along with around the engine's. If they don't let you inside see if they will open the Air Stairs to use it as a backdrop. One other item about the C-47 watch for the antennas under the nose on the pilot side of the nose running down to about a third of the way down.

Now for Yankee Friendship (The Stinson) this plane is fabric covered airframe so before you start doing photo's make sure you have the staff tell you were you can lean and place you hands.

A few other items I would like to point out for you,

1. Before you start the shot may I suggest you have someone from the staff walk everyone around the planes to point out stuff.

2. If you plan on using Lights make sure you set them up before you start having folks moving around and leave them in position

Finally ask YAM if the plane captain will be there to help if Mike Luther (YAM Airshow Boss) shows up you should ask him about arranging a gathering during Thunder over Michigan this years main theme is the B-17 Anv. and they are shooting to get all the US Based Airworthy 17 there.

Finally have fun and if their is anything I can do to help just ask.

Nov 17 09 06:59 pm Link

Photographer

Lore-Li Photography

Posts: 4040

Saint Louis, Missouri, US

Sounds like fun and i can do this shoot and have oodles of time to get to Cleveland for Jose's show (if i can afford both which i think i can) So i am gonna go ahead and say... IN!

Nov 17 09 07:12 pm Link

Photographer

Brian_Bacon

Posts: 237

Swartz Creek, Michigan, US

I'm in for sure and I will help start spreading the word as well.

Nov 17 09 09:22 pm Link

Photographer

PF Dark

Posts: 946

Ypsilanti, Michigan, US

Its a little off topic, but more people know me here than most places...

Does anyone have a PW Mulitmax that I can borrow for a shoot.  I want to do a rear curtian sync with my strobes and I have heard that the multimax can delay the strobe fire but with out knowing for sure I don't want to spend the $350 to find out.  I already have the other trancievers I need and they dont work.  I have changed CF-15 with no aparent effect.  So if there are any other wizard users out there that can shed some light I would apreciate it.

PM me if you have any other ideas...

Now back to your regular programming...

Nov 17 09 10:39 pm Link

Model

ILLIANA

Posts: 510

Ypsilanti, Michigan, US

List is updated! I need your definite yes's people; I'm not adding people who responded earlier in the thread. smile I'm very excited! And I just went out and bought my uniform hat and scaf today smile Call me Miss. Layover!

Nov 17 09 11:04 pm Link

Photographer

Captive_Images

Posts: 86

Glenford, Ohio, US

I am seriously interested in this... coming from Columbus area however, I need to see what models are going to commit.

Nov 18 09 06:10 am Link

Photographer

Microwave Photo

Posts: 183

Freeland, Michigan, US

Definate Yes.

Nov 18 09 06:39 am Link

Photographer

SPRINGHEEL

Posts: 38224

Detroit, Michigan, US

Nov 18 09 06:39 am Link

Photographer

pullins photography

Posts: 5884

Troy, Michigan, US

ILLIANA wrote:
Ok PF.. see what you get for stepping on my toes ahead of me?! I want to share my good news!

*Stands up on Soapbox*
Here ye.. here ye I have your answers....*....drum roll....*

*The Shoot will take place at Grosse Ile over by Detroit... NOT YPSILANTI.. Directions will soon follow.
*The Shoot date is Saturday December 5th, from 11a-5p. Doors will open at 10a for registration and set up... Please be there by 11. I would like to have everyone registered and checked in so i can get some shooting in also smile
*The museum is asking for a donation, so given the numbers that have showed interest and amount they have asked for; admission is going to be $30 for both photographers and models. MUAs and stylists are of course pardoned; as long as you stick to your roles.

**My contact said Nudes will be ok; but she has to get it approved by the board-so she is emailing them; and I will hear back from her shortly; More then likely yes.

*I will be updating the 1st post to show all this information and starting a participation list... so start giving me your yes's; Being interested doesn't count anymore.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Yankee Air Museum’s Features for the December 2009 Group Shoot

Yankee Friendship
Yellow Stinson
*Shooting area around exterior on the ground shooting, no interior or on top of Plane areas.
````````````````````````````````
Yankee Doodle Dandy
C-47 Transport-White Cap
*Shooting area around exterior on the ground shooting, “Possible” interior, and “possible on top of Plane Areas
```````````````````````````````````
Yankee Warrior
B-25 Dolittle Raider
*Shooting area around exterior on the ground shooting, “Possible” interior, and “possible on top of Plane Areas
```````````````````````````````````
~Best for Last~
Yankee Lady
B-17 WWII Bomber
*2010 will be its 75th anniversary
*Shooting area around exterior on the ground shooting, Interior cockpit, Interior Bombay Doors Foot Bridge, Front Nose Glass, and also Belly Turret.
`````````````````````````````````````
There will be time slot schedules for the specific shooting areas on the B-17, and also the other planes. So we aren’t shooting on top of each other. There is the whole other half of the hanger that can be utilized; as well as the outside of the hanger. I am currently waiting on contact from Airport Manager as to possibility of using other historic areas of the airport.
   *Message me as to areas wanted for what time slots.. That schedule will be available for selection once I have the areas confirmed and I will hopefully be getting pictures taken this week. I have one main picture of the hanger of which I will be getting scanned in tonight or tomorrow to show of the beauties. But for now here is a link to the planes pictures and history http://www.yankeeairmuseum.org/historic-aircraft.html

    There will also be a bulldog walking around the area enforcing the posted rules.  And to help with safety around the planes, certain areas cannot be walked on, or put pressure on. Best believe that there is a "If you bend it you buy it" policy in effect.
And these items are priceless!
************************************************
**Yankee Air Museum has asked that no alteration what so ever is done regarding the nose art on the planes; no replacing art piece, or deleting.
**Also EVERY final picture must and will have the Yankee Air Museum Logo somewhere on the photograph, whether printed or digitally displayed.
************************************************
Also as a general courtesy YAM has asked if we can send back a few examples of our work; when at the end of your developing stages you find a awesome photograph that displays your work well, if you could arrange to have the file sent to my (ILLIANA) email address I will then print and package them to take them over to their office. [email protected]

      This is our first impression to the museum so let’s make it a great one so we can be welcomed back in the spring when their new Museum opens!

putting the yankee air museum logo on every photograph might imply giving them copyright interests. I am curious as to why they would make this a requirement?

Nov 18 09 06:46 am Link

Photographer

SPRINGHEEL

Posts: 38224

Detroit, Michigan, US

Please remove me from the list

Nov 18 09 08:34 am Link

Model

ILLIANA

Posts: 510

Ypsilanti, Michigan, US

pullins photography wrote:

putting the yankee air museum logo on every photograph might imply giving them copyright interests. I am curious as to why they would make this a requirement?

Not for copyright; merely to show ownership of the plane because these are such historical rarieties; the Museum will have all your contact information after the event is said and done if they'd be interested in dealing with you as far as certain pieces of your work; that is of your own business. These photos will not be used by the museum unless they ask you independantly about them

Nov 18 09 10:10 am Link

Model

ILLIANA

Posts: 510

Ypsilanti, Michigan, US

SPRINGHEEL wrote:
Please remove me from the list

Sorry to see you not be able to make it sad

Nov 18 09 10:10 am Link

Model

Meghan C

Posts: 51

Fort Worth, Texas, US

I am interested! Is there a full list of participants anywhere?

Thanks!
Meghan

Nov 18 09 10:42 am Link

Photographer

Lisolette Gilcrest

Posts: 394

Fort Wayne, Indiana, US

I am definitely interested and plan to be up in Detroit that weekend anyways!  I'm going to give you a tentative yes, as long as I find two or three models that are willing to work with me.  I don't know yet what I'll shoot, but I will be looking for models willing to get nude (partial, full, implied) if the scene we create together calls for it.

Anyone that might be interested in shooting with me (and preferably people I have not worked with before, as I want some fresh faces), please feel free to contact me if you think you might be interested in collaborating!

Weeeeeeee!

Nov 18 09 11:04 am Link

Photographer

f11photography

Posts: 1163

Northville, Michigan, US

I'm will be there!

Nov 18 09 11:15 am Link

Model

Kelly Nunn Martin

Posts: 72

Atlanta, Georgia, US

Wow, I am SO interested...will contact you if I can get home to Detroit in December.

Airplanes and Springheel, what a tempting combo...

Nov 18 09 11:17 am Link

Model

ILLIANA

Posts: 510

Ypsilanti, Michigan, US

Kelly Nunn Martin wrote:
Wow, I am SO interested...will contact you if I can get home to Detroit in December.

Airplanes and Springheel, what a tempting combo...

Sorry to say but Springheel will unfortunately not be joining us at this shoot :*(

Nov 18 09 11:59 am Link

Model

ILLIANA

Posts: 510

Ypsilanti, Michigan, US

Ok I need models! I have photographers, where are the people that belong in front of the camera? Or all they all for me?! *big eyes*

Nov 18 09 12:07 pm Link

Photographer

Lore-Li Photography

Posts: 4040

Saint Louis, Missouri, US

ILLIANA wrote:

Sorry to say but Springheel will unfortunately not be joining us at this shoot :*(

*cries in corner*

Nov 18 09 12:59 pm Link

Model

ILLIANA

Posts: 510

Ypsilanti, Michigan, US

Welcome Meghan C#23028! Our first definite model!

Nov 18 09 03:01 pm Link