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MisterC
Posts: 15162
Portland, Oregon, US
Koray wrote: his ways of post processing can be figured out by one or more of us. I linger in the forums to find out some of these shooting/retouching techniques. But this is one that I haven't seen done or explained right. I don't mind paying to learn new techniques, but photographers rarely advertise or offer personal tutorials. And those that do, stink.
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denisemc
Posts: 555
Toronto, Ontario, Canada
I have not read the thread. One of the techniques to this look which will you see with further inspection is that the blacks have become not really black. Mess around with the blacks in selective colour. I believe cross-processing and different curve channels have been mentioned.
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MB-1
Posts: 2493
Honolulu, Hawaii, US
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Jaime Ibarra
Posts: 312
Austin, Texas, US
Koray wrote: You are damaging his business teasing me focus on how he does what he does other than getting the model in the mood. Just so you know. [To Koray's quote above...] Huh? This thread was recently brought to my attention...as I read through it, I am admittedly honoured by the amount of people that were so quick to mention my techniques, but I am also a bit apologetic for indirectly (and unknowingly) causing such a stir, here. I respect the purpose of this forum. I am not here to use this as a vehicle to advertise my services. Point-of-fact, I rarely use MM as a platform to advertise ANY of the services I offer, as most people on this site are unwilling/unable to pay for...well...anything. I recognise that MM is what it is. I maintain my profile here on MM for the sole purpose of increasing my internet presence. Nothing more. The same is true with about a dozen other "community" sites I am on, as well. I am only socially active on my DeviantArt profile, for reasons I see no need to outline here. And only since there is much being said about me & my techniques on this thread, whilst not one person has directly asked ME a single thing here, I will respond by saying this: yes, there are likely several ways to accomplish the general look of my post production, but that is only part of the equation leading to the end result I achieve. There is the human element that is unique between myself and the people I photograph that never seems to be taken into account (although Koray touched on this a bit), but it is actually the most driving factor in the 'look' of my work. I'm leaving now...but anyone here is more than welcome to contact me directly. I am not known to bite
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MB-1
Posts: 2493
Honolulu, Hawaii, US
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Duncan Hall
Posts: 3104
San Francisco, California, US
Jaime Ibarra wrote: There is the human element that is unique between myself and the people I photograph that never seems to be taken into account (although Koray touched on this a bit), but it is actually the most driving factor in the 'look' of my work. This is a fact. If you want the technical tricks, just open a well-exposed shot into PS, drop the highlights a bit, desaturate the shadows, reduce midtone contrast, then start playing with color blending (want a really nice effect? pick a shade of blue and apply the "difference" blend mode at around 25 opacity/30 fill). Apply some custom gradients to enhance color contrast between the model and the background. Increase local contrast while maintaining low global sharpness, experiment with luminosity masks for better tonal blending. Use your best skin smoothing techniques for that seamless, creamy texture. Experiment with the Orton Effect with a merged layer for the rich, dreamy tones. Find some nice textures to overlay onto it. You don't need lights to copy a lot of his work; he shoots with available light. And the painted look? Get friendly with the Shadows & Highlights adjustment (hint: pay attention to the midtone contrast slider). But it still won't look like his work, because your models aren't as pretty and probably don't like you half as much as his like him.
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MEK Photography
Posts: 6571
Westminster, Maryland, US
Lot 8 has some good tutorials on his blog... http://lot8studios.blogspot.com/ Jaime: All I have to say is that every time you post a new shot from when you work with Jessa, my jaw drops. ...and there may be a little drool involved...
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Jaime Ibarra
Posts: 312
Austin, Texas, US
MEK Photography wrote: Jaime: All I have to say is that every time you post a new shot from when you work with Jessa, my jaw drops. ...and there may be a little drool involved... Thank you very much. Jessa is special. Period.
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MisterC
Posts: 15162
Portland, Oregon, US
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Mickle Design Werks
Posts: 5967
Washington, District of Columbia, US
Lea Halliwell wrote:
So he does it over the phone? I do this a lot with people asking me about techniques or processes. I'm not going to type up my answer when a 5-10 minute phone can communicate much much more.
Retoucher
Virtuoso Skins
Posts: 333
Asheville, North Carolina, US
Duncan Hall wrote:
This is a fact. If you want the technical tricks, just open a well-exposed shot into PS, drop the highlights a bit, desaturate the shadows, reduce midtone contrast, then start playing with color blending (want a really nice effect? pick a shade of blue and apply the "difference" blend mode at around 25 opacity/30 fill). Apply some custom gradients to enhance color contrast between the model and the background. Increase local contrast while maintaining low global sharpness, experiment with luminosity masks for better tonal blending. Use your best skin smoothing techniques for that seamless, creamy texture. Experiment with the Orton Effect with a merged layer for the rich, dreamy tones. Find some nice textures to overlay onto it. You don't need lights to copy a lot of his work; he shoots with available light. And the painted look? Get friendly with the Shadows & Highlights adjustment (hint: pay attention to the midtone contrast slider). But it still won't look like his work, because your models aren't as pretty and probably don't like you half as much as his like him. Good post.
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MisterC
Posts: 15162
Portland, Oregon, US
Lea Halliwell wrote: So he does it over the phone? He set's up appointments over the phone.
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Peter N Photography
Posts: 126
New Orleans, Louisiana, US
My first attempt using what Jaime taught me. If you look at my port it's a total departure. Not yet up to Jaime's caliber in terms of emotion or pp but I'm working on it. Ultimate goal is to evolve and vary this into my own style.
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Michael C Pearson
Posts: 1349
Agoura Hills, California, US
Very nicely done. It's a pleasure to look at.
Photographer
MisterC
Posts: 15162
Portland, Oregon, US
Agreed, Peter N. That's a wonderful image. Soft and lovely.
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Duncan Hall
Posts: 3104
San Francisco, California, US
That is nice, and very reminiscent of his work. Be careful oversaturating the reds with the "Difference" layer, though.
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Peter N Photography
Posts: 126
New Orleans, Louisiana, US
Thx everyone for the comments. It was cool to delve into Jaime's style. MinisterC: Jaime should give you a discount b/c I was trying to figure out his technique for months and didn't know he was doing tutorials until you mentioned it
Photographer
MisterC
Posts: 15162
Portland, Oregon, US
Peter N Photography wrote: Jaime should give you a discount Sure.
Model
Lea Halliwell
Posts: 3939
Lexington, Kentucky, US
Mickle Design Werks wrote: I do this a lot with people asking me about techniques or processes. I'm not going to type up my answer when a 5-10 minute phone can communicate much much more. Oh, ok. Makes sense. I was just wondering 'cause that's what it looked like they were hinting at, but I wasn't sure.
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Lea Halliwell
Posts: 3939
Lexington, Kentucky, US
MinisterC wrote:
He set's up appointments over the phone. Oh? Now I'm confused. lol Guess I will just have to call & find out.
Photographer
Peter N Photography
Posts: 126
New Orleans, Louisiana, US
MinisterC wrote:
Done. ; P that's awesome. post results
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MisterC
Posts: 15162
Portland, Oregon, US
Peter N Photography wrote: that's awesome. post results I'm visiting on Friday. So I should post some work by weekends end. ___________ Edit: Friday evening. Wow. While many things mentioned in this thread are helpful at creating a certain "glazed" look. Nothing is even similar to how Mr Ibarra achieves his results. I've only been messing around. There is going to be a bit of a learning curve to get this right... as well as mix my own style back in. Nevertheless, my first shot;
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Peter N Photography
Posts: 126
New Orleans, Louisiana, US
^^^ MinisterC, nice first attempt. You got the color tones and "glaze" down. Good use of ambient. Perhaps a little more light on the face?
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MisterC
Posts: 15162
Portland, Oregon, US
Peter N Photography wrote: Perhaps a little more light on the face? Well, I didn't offer it for critique. That said, the light is how I wanted it.
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Dave Bulger
Posts: 775
Austin, Texas, US
Jaime Ibarra wrote: I am not known to bite Yeah, but you do indeed talk funny.
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MisterC
Posts: 15162
Portland, Oregon, US
A light dose of some "Ibarra" vintage techniques makes a big difference. Original;
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Koray
Posts: 6720
Ankara, Ankara, Turkey
MinisterC wrote: A light dose of some "Ibarra" vintage techniques makes a big difference. he gave you the background?...cool then I may turn this thread into more advertisement for him acting like I'm against the look and its very easy to duplicate sshhh...
Photographer
MisterC
Posts: 15162
Portland, Oregon, US
Koray wrote: he gave you the background? Lol, no.
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G3l
Posts: 24
Brighton, England, United Kingdom
I love that shot, but loved it even more when I saw the original. I've been looking everywhere for a decent source of backgrounds and resigned myself to making and shooting my own for pp.
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MisterC
Posts: 15162
Portland, Oregon, US
G3l wrote: I love that shot, but loved it even more when I saw the original. I've been looking everywhere for a decent source of backgrounds and resigned myself to making and shooting my own for pp. I mostly shoot my own and assemble them in post. The floor, floor board and wall were all done in post. The gritty, sometimes glazed look is also just post work.
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Brian Legge
Posts: 67
Bothell, Washington, US
Hmm. If I were to wager a guess, it looks like part of the post process is to average the color in the image create a new layer which blends in that color. Note that none of Jaimes posted shots have white or black backgrounds. I'm curious how he'd deal with those. Many of the shots have relatively few colors in them. The colors in the clothes and backgrounds go together nicely. I'm not sure how to say much more without this bordering on a critique (one which hasn't been asked for, nor am I qualified to give by any stretch of the imagination!). Look for commonalities between the images. There is much more the style than just the post work.
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MisterC
Posts: 15162
Portland, Oregon, US
Brian Legge wrote: The colors in the clothes and backgrounds go together nicely. There is much more the style than just the post work. With post work, there are soooo many ways to arrive at a similar result.
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Jaime Ibarra
Posts: 312
Austin, Texas, US
Dave Bulger wrote:
Yeah, but you do indeed talk funny. 'Tis better to talk funny than to look funny, Mr. B Look forward to seeing you when I get back to TX
Photographer
Dave Bulger
Posts: 775
Austin, Texas, US
Jaime Ibarra wrote: 'Tis better to talk funny than to look funny, Mr. B Look forward to seeing you when I get back to TX Tosser! (yeah, I know, you taught me that word). Remember that I got out of Austin - you can photographically have the place for the most part. Dallas now... Edit: Austin has some *tremendous* talent in all phases of the business, and if it's *allowed* to grow, could become quite the creative mecca.
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MisterC
Posts: 15162
Portland, Oregon, US
Peter N Photography wrote: one more... Gorgeous. I still like the first one better. But the model looks "prettier" here. Looks like you're adapting some of the techniques to you're own style already.
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Peter N Photography
Posts: 126
New Orleans, Louisiana, US
thx MinisterC. Yeah, I'm trying to adapt it to my style. I probably (over)sharpen more and pp the eyes more than Jaime. Love what you did with the little girl pic. Such a nice ethereal feel.
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MisterC
Posts: 15162
Portland, Oregon, US
Photographer
Digitoxin
Posts: 13456
Denver, Colorado, US
My shot..... playing around with the blue channel in curves........
Retoucher
Virtuoso Skins
Posts: 333
Asheville, North Carolina, US
Jaime Ibarra wrote:
Thank you very much. Jessa is special. Period.
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