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Photographer
-Ira
Posts: 2,187
New York, New York, US


FotoGregg wrote:
gave the models credit

Agreed.  Especially on TFP...after all it's all about exposure.

Oct 07 12 04:01 pm  Link  Quote 
Photographer
FFantastique
Posts: 785
Orlando, Florida, US


-Ira wrote:
Agreed.  Especially on TFP...after all it's all about exposure.

Generally concur except that some models may not wish to be identified due to the type or extent of exposure. :-)

5 weeks since sailing.
[Missed the usual 16:30 posting time because I was generating billable hours :-)].

Oct 07 12 06:26 pm  Link  Quote 
Photographer
Select Models
Posts: 35,920
Upland, California, US


Another shot of Jin... borat... not taken on the cruiseshoot... but I know she'll see it here... wink

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v330/GaryAbigt/Jin4.jpg
Oct 08 12 02:27 am  Link  Quote 
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Faulty Focus
Posts: 696
Kamloops, British Columbia, Canada


Please read this to the tune of  "To all the girls I have loved before" smile  lol

I feel very bad for not getting my cruise editing finished yet, in fact I have barely started. My travel schedule has been nuts, and I also had some time sensitive work that had to be completed. The good news is I have 1 more week of travel and then I should have a full week that I dedicate to the cruise backlog. wink   In the meantime please accept my sincere apologies.

I do have a few cruise shots in my port fyi.

Cheers everyone, and I hope getting back to reality has not been to hard hard on anyone. wink

Gary R
Oct 08 12 02:27 am  Link  Quote 
Photographer
FFantastique
Posts: 785
Orlando, Florida, US


http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poseidon_(film)#
We didn't have THIS much drama, nor did we have the revenue ($180+ million).
Wish we could charge lurkers! :-)
Oct 08 12 11:00 am  Link  Quote 
Model
You may call me Celine
Posts: 166
Los Angeles, California, US


Faulty Focus wrote:
Please read this to the tune of  "To all the girls I have loved before" smile  lol

I feel very bad for not getting my cruise editing finished yet, in fact I have barely started. My travel schedule has been nuts, and I also had some time sensitive work that had to be completed. The good news is I have 1 more week of travel and then I should have a full week that I dedicate to the cruise backlog. wink   In the meantime please accept my sincere apologies.

I do have a few cruise shots in my port fyi.

Cheers everyone, and I hope getting back to reality has not been to hard hard on anyone. wink

Gary R

Your apologies are sincerely accepted.  Thanks for the update and I really look forward to seeing some of the images you captured of moi!

Oct 08 12 11:38 am  Link  Quote 
Photographer
Select Models
Posts: 35,920
Upland, California, US


Charging lurkers... fur sure... gotta find a way to do that... lol
Oct 08 12 12:11 pm  Link  Quote 
Photographer
Sensual Magic
Posts: 1,655
Upland, California, US


Faulty Focus wrote:
Please read this to the tune of  "To all the girls I have loved before" smile  lol

I feel very bad for not getting my cruise editing finished yet, in fact I have barely started. My travel schedule has been nuts, and I also had some time sensitive work that had to be completed. The good news is I have 1 more week of travel and then I should have a full week that I dedicate to the cruise backlog. wink   In the meantime please accept my sincere apologies.

I do have a few cruise shots in my port fyi.

Cheers everyone, and I hope getting back to reality has not been to hard hard on anyone. wink

Gary R

But you did VERY well on that shot you are using for your avatar today. It is still my favorite from what I've seen so far. Hope to see more of your work from the cruise.

- Clark

Oct 08 12 12:15 pm  Link  Quote 
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J Sharp
Posts: 3,437
Sacramento, California, US


Select Models wrote:
Charging lurkers... fur sure... gotta find a way to do that... lol

Where do I send my $$?

smile

Oct 08 12 07:14 pm  Link  Quote 
Photographer
FFantastique
Posts: 785
Orlando, Florida, US


J Sharp  wrote:

Where do I send my $$?

smile

Gary:
You take PayPal? :-)

Oct 08 12 09:48 pm  Link  Quote 
Photographer
FFantastique
Posts: 785
Orlando, Florida, US


LiaL0ve of San Diego http://www.modelmayhem.com/2703334 should be considered for next sailing, IMHO. In fact, some may wish to work with her now!
Oct 08 12 10:07 pm  Link  Quote 
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Select Models
Posts: 35,920
Upland, California, US


J Sharp  wrote:

Where do I send my $$?

smile

Hey J... you're in luck... when you attend this shoot for only $60 (at link below)... you get to shoot a dozen great models on the beach at sunset on Oct 13th... AND... you get to lurk on this thread FOR FREE... borat... lol

http://www.modelmayhem.com/po.php?thread_id=860125

Oct 08 12 10:23 pm  Link  Quote 
Model
Bumble
Posts: 61
San Francisco, California, US


You may call me Celine wrote:
Your apologies are sincerely accepted.  Thanks for the update and I really look forward to seeing some of the images you captured of moi!

sad to hear.... I saw lots of frustration on this Carni!, wish it would get resolved!

Oct 09 12 12:23 am  Link  Quote 
Model
Bumble
Posts: 61
San Francisco, California, US


I hope we can all feel good about our hard work ASAP!
Oct 09 12 12:25 am  Link  Quote 
Photographer
Select Models
Posts: 35,920
Upland, California, US


FFantastique wrote:

Gary:
You take PayPal? :-)

Nah... that's for shoot promotors who can't afford to support their event without using someone else's money upfront... wink

Oct 09 12 02:27 am  Link  Quote 
Photographer
FFantastique
Posts: 785
Orlando, Florida, US


Select Models wrote:

Nah... that's for shoot promotors who can't afford to support their event without using someone else's money upfront... wink

Free lurking! :-)

Oct 09 12 05:57 am  Link  Quote 
Photographer
FotoGregg
Posts: 1,050
Riverside, California, US


Select Models wrote:

Nah... that's for shoot promotors who can't afford to support their event without using someone else's money upfront... wink

That may be true for some, but not all.

Oct 09 12 02:35 pm  Link  Quote 
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Bob-W
Posts: 220
Simi Valley, California, US


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Bob-W
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Simi Valley, California, US


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Bob-W
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Simi Valley, California, US


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Photographer
FFantastique
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Orlando, Florida, US


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Bob:
You are cooking with gas! :-)
Oct 09 12 10:34 pm  Link  Quote 
Model
Lorelei LeFox
Posts: 5
Los Angeles, California, US


Bob you have to send me a release before you can post my pictures. >:I
Oct 10 12 10:48 am  Link  Quote 
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Lorelei LeFox
Posts: 5
Los Angeles, California, US


BOB you cannot post photos without my consent. I have told you this yet you did it anyway. You need to send me my photos (still have not received any from el morocco) and send me a release. If this picture is not removed I will take legal action!!!
Oct 10 12 10:56 am  Link  Quote 
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Bob-W
Posts: 220
Simi Valley, California, US


Madam Lorelei wrote:
BOB you cannot post photos without my consent. I have told you this yet you did it anyway. You need to send me my photos (still have not received any from el morocco) and send me a release. If this picture is not removed I will taklegal ac tion!!!

you might want to less rude and also delete the image from your post to prevent dissemination.

If anyone else doesn't like their image them please just send me a polite PM and I'll oblige. I onkt learnes to post images a few days ago and already there is drama. The terms of rhe cruise event posting clearly state that models will provide releases.

Oct 10 12 12:05 pm  Link  Quote 
Photographer
Select Models
Posts: 35,920
Upland, California, US


Suzy in the El Morocco room... borat

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v330/GaryAbigt/Suzy3-1.jpg
Oct 10 12 12:12 pm  Link  Quote 
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Jin N Tonic
Posts: 173
Los Angeles, California, US


Select Models wrote:
Another shot of Jin... borat... not taken on the cruiseshoot... but I know she'll see it here... wink

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v330/GaryAbigt/Jin4.jpg

hee hee we have fun!

Oct 10 12 12:27 pm  Link  Quote 
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FFantastique
Posts: 785
Orlando, Florida, US


PHILOSOPHICAL POV.

[This is adult stuff--for grownups, intellectual competent intelligentsia who can handle metaphysical philosophical discussions juxtaposed with tech talk and acronym-laden jargon. This is somewhat advanced stuff and not intended for consumption by visual minded readers.

It is not written while sleep deprived nor under the influence of anything mind altering--unless soy milk is mind altering! :-)  What I'm saying is that it is coherent--you must might not understand it! This has not been peer reviewed. It was typed quickly while waiting for someone to clear the bathroom.]

Some have suggested the use of an ND filter in some lighting conditions to achieve certain results.

Others have suggested shooting in RAW so that WB and exposure can be adjusted after the fact.

Retrospectively and introspectively, I've analyzed some of the phenomenon and tried to understand human behavior and the variance between my perspective and others. To reconcile the difference, I figured that I must be observing this through ROSE-TINTED GLASSES.  I have an intentional positive, optimistic bias. Through my mental lens I see things with a positive bent. After the time, effort, money, resources allocated to this endeavor I was determined to have a good time. [Except for the agony of deciding which images to post process and exactly how to do it and struggles with technology that seem to invert the jurisdictional hierarchy laid out in Genesis 1:28 where man and woman were to have dominion over the earth yet many processes exact a compliance and recalcitrance that I'm not comfortable with.]

Yes, there were less-than-desirable homo sapiens on the vessel and less-than-desirable behavior. With a sample size as large as we had for as long as we did, it's inevitable that the gene pool gets a bit of flotsam that wasn't filtered out. Through my rose-tinted glasses I filter that out and reframe the scene and crop it out, so to speak.

I'm not totally naive. Even without a hearing aid, I hear well. I know some of what goes on. It's not that I like compassion and caring but I deliberately choose to bypass, circumnavigate and ignore some nonsense.

Since I've traveled internationally before (including Mexico), and cruised (a couple times), done a few dozen shoots with great models (n>30), sponsored mature models who didn't need babysitting (n=2), I know that I have an advantage, e.g.  knowing what to expect, operational flexibility, and perspective.

This is not aimed at anyone nor everyone. But if the shoe fits, wear it. Just my phenomenological analysis. [I concede that some words may be used malapropistically!]

Like the term "pursuit of happiness" I know a lot of this is vague. It's intentionally so to cover a multitude of situations. It is subject to your interpretation, which may or may not be correct. I'm not opposed to a dispassionate discussion but please no flaming.

In other words, only level headed, controlled or non emotional, logical discourse is encouraged.

Bathroom is now available so I'm going to close this post and proceed with daily ablutions. [Yes, Bob, you may have to use your dictionary again! :-) I should but I'm not since I'm in a hurry!]

FOR ALL, (regardless of age, race, gender, orientation, intelligence level, etc.):
Have a great day! :-)

PS My executive summary: To paraphrase Luke 2:14, let there be peace on earth, good will toward all men and women! :-)

Reminds me of a joke from Peanuts. "I love mankind. It's people I can't stand!" :-)

Update: yes, another. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phenomenol … chology%29  Hope that link works correctly but it supports that the word used 7 paragraphs above is probably not used malapropistically.

We are supposed to be professionals. We can choose to act in character or as true selves. I'm not suggesting that we deny reality of the events that we witnessed nor experienced but merely to use a little mental "PhotoShop" to mask or mitigate the negatives, and bring out the positives. This is not news, this is art. We have license to alter reality! The drama and conflict is entertaining and educational but I'm concerned about the corrosive nature that negative emotions running thru your mind will have on your body.
Oct 10 12 01:39 pm  Link  Quote 
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FFantastique
Posts: 785
Orlando, Florida, US


Jin N Tonic wrote:
hee hee we have fun!

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v330/GaryAbigt/Jin4.jpg
[Link originally didn't work right...but it does now!]

Oct 10 12 01:41 pm  Link  Quote 
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Lorelei LeFox
Posts: 5
Los Angeles, California, US


Bob-W wrote:
you might want to less rude and also delete the image from your post to prevent dissemination.

If anyone else doesn't like their image them please just send me a polite PM and I'll oblige. I onkt learnes to post images a few days ago and already there is drama. The terms of rhe cruise event posting clearly state that models will provide releases.

I'm not going to fight with you on here Bob. What is rude is to ignore a models legal right to her image. Holding you accountable for your actions is nor "rude". We discussed previously in a PM that you could not post my image with out a release. You chose to do it anyway. I'm not saying more on this thread.

Oct 10 12 03:21 pm  Link  Quote 
Photographer
C.C. Holdings
Posts: 594
New York, New York, US


did I post this before?

Gina in PV

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/91592517/IMG_0461-Edit_mm.jpg
Oct 10 12 08:36 pm  Link  Quote 
Photographer
C.C. Holdings
Posts: 594
New York, New York, US


the comedy in this photo is that a wave had just unexpectedly drenched melissa,

even though she was way up on that rock

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/91592517/IMG_1351_mm.jpg
Oct 10 12 08:48 pm  Link  Quote 
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Mellissa Ballard
Posts: 81
Indio, California, US


C.C. Holdings  wrote:
the comedy in this photo is that a wave had just unexpectedly drenched melissa,

even though she was way up on that rock

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/91592517/IMG_1351_mm.jpg

lol love it!

Oct 10 12 09:55 pm  Link  Quote 
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Mellissa Ballard
Posts: 81
Indio, California, US


if there are any photogs that i shot with that have not sent pics of me can you please do so.....pretty please smile
those of you who have sent pics thank you so much smile
Oct 10 12 10:07 pm  Link  Quote 
Photographer
FFantastique
Posts: 785
Orlando, Florida, US


BOLO Franny Glass, Oceanside. Pending approval!

[Be On the Look Out for new model profile with the stage name of "Franny Glass" based in Oceanside CA as the profile is pending approval of the MM gatekeepers.]
Oct 10 12 10:23 pm  Link  Quote 
Photographer
Mark G Bissell
Posts: 443
Jacksonville, North Carolina, US


Select llamas wrote:
Suzy in the El Morocco room... borat

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v330/GaryAbigt/Suzy3-1.jpg

Gary / Suzy Stunning Capture of Beauty, Emotion, Lighting and Color

Oct 10 12 10:37 pm  Link  Quote 
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ShelleyLynne
Posts: 132
Calgary, Alberta, Canada


hahah LMFAO!!!! no really ROFLMAO......

Find it really sad that models are BEGGING for images...

Find it sadder that "photographers" are removing their images because of legal threats from models seemingly because the images are subpar, not approved, and/or  *gasp* NO contract signed.

......WOW sign me up for the next adventure!!!!  NOT!!...no offense to anyone BUT so not my cup of tea and so NOT what was talked about, outlined, expected, OR may I say even remotely professional.    I personally love sunshine and lollypops...but not when they are blown up my A$$!


PS....please dont get me wrong there were a few AMAZING!!! STANDUP!!! TRUE-TO-YOUR word, devoted to the IDEA, talented, professional photogs on this trip and sadly, many models didnt get to work with them. 

As for the models...some amazingly talented, gifted, and beautiful women were not captured....and THAT to me sums up the WRONG of this 'organized' adventure.

No disrespect to anyone, just my opinion.
Oct 10 12 10:47 pm  Link  Quote 
Model
Mellissa Ballard
Posts: 81
Indio, California, US


Oct 10 12 10:55 pm  Link  Quote 
Photographer
Mark G Bissell
Posts: 443
Jacksonville, North Carolina, US


Mellissa Ballard wrote:

not begging was trying to be nice due to all the drama that has been posted....trying to make light of the situation

Melissa working on a few of your photos, sorry I have been detracted with, work, family and the Yankess ...

Oct 10 12 11:02 pm  Link  Quote 
Model
Mellissa Ballard
Posts: 81
Indio, California, US


Mark G Bissell wrote:
Melissa working on a few of your photos, sorry I have been detracted with, work, family and the Yankess ...

Oct 10 12 11:16 pm  Link  Quote 
Photographer
Mark G Bissell
Posts: 443
Jacksonville, North Carolina, US


Gina, Love The Smile and perspective. Thank You Gina smile
http://i224.photobucket.com/albums/dd227/mgabissell/Cabo-PV%202012/Puerto-Vallerta-2012-0146-Gina_zps0e547efc.jpg
Oct 10 12 11:26 pm  Link  Quote 
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