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billy badfinger

Posts: 887

Grand Rapids, Michigan, US

First of all:
What's with that guy trying to buy up all the midgets???!!!...THAT is effing strange!

Second:
It's just a GAME...and a game with very few rules.(Never cared for rules very much)

If some of you want to factor in the tax man...go ahead!
If you want to build little fifedoms...have at it!

I chose the $1mil figure because,by many standards,it's NOT a lot of money...
For most of us it would be life changing for sure but,for others,(see various replies)
it's just a little more than "chump change".
I think it's interesting to see/hear everyones vision for this unlikely scenario.

Jan 27 13 02:09 pm Link

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R A V E N D R I V E

Posts: 15867

New York, New York, US

Becks wrote:
So I'd have about $805k left over after that. I'd spend $150k on techy stuff like an 80inch smart hdtv, two top of the line IPS monitors for photoshop, a nice studio lighting kit, and several lenses.

that doesn't cost 150k..... unless you get ripped off for all of your monitors from Bang & Olufsen

Jan 27 13 02:16 pm Link

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Michael Broughton

Posts: 2288

Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada

if i didn't change a single thing about my current lifestyle, stayed as healthy as i am now, and the value of a dollar never changed significantly, roughly 170 years.

Jan 27 13 02:22 pm Link

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Patrick Conlon

Posts: 418

Methuen, Massachusetts, US

Hi can I bet it all on the Superbowl???

Jan 27 13 02:29 pm Link

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DEACTIVATED ACCOUNT

Posts: 1294

Čaġčarān, Ġawr, Afghanistan

I would buy two cars. My summer Jeep, bright pink with a black soft top and black interior two seater, and my practical car. It wouldn't be something stupidly fancy as I don't really appreciate the value in cars, so probably just another Renault Megane (that's the car I currently have) but newer and without https://assets.modelmayhem.com/images/smilies/scary.pngsqueaky breaks. My practical will probably be an auto but I would still want my fun car to be a manual.

So minus how ever much they would cost from my million.

Now I'll need a nice little house close to my uni so I can finish my degree in peace. I don't really know what the suburban areas near the city are like but I'd rather buy a house, something two bedroomed with a nice backyard and a pool. Then that place will have to be furnished and decorated to my liking so take that away from my cash stash.

Then I'll buy myself an Alsatian, and little baby Chief will require lots of training so I can get him to growl on command when I say the word leave. As in, I'll have an argument with someone and I'll say, 'please just leave', and Chief will turn all wolf like and growl at the person.

Then I would buy myself some decent quality makeup and skin care products as well as some decent clothing to fill my new woodrobes with. More will go to shoes. But that will be it! No stupid expensive luxury yachts or buying $19999 handbags.

Oh! I will need a freaking amazing computer set up, an awesome video camera and to buy lots of weights and benches for my home gym.

But I still think after all that spending I will still have cash left over to pay my bills with for a few years.

Jan 27 13 02:37 pm Link

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Heather Lilly

Posts: 456

Wiesbaden, Hassia, Germany

It could last me forever if I just spent it on my hubby, dogs, horses, and me.   However, my problem is that I want to help everyone- I would donate and give away all of it probably within a year! lol hmm

Jan 27 13 02:43 pm Link

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udor

Posts: 25255

New York, New York, US

DOUGLASFOTOS wrote:
You mean after Uncle Sam takes his share...and State Taxes...700,000 will not go that far.

People just have no concept that 1 Million USD is really not that much.

Even without the taxes... assuming that the money would be tax free... the psychology, once people who never had this amount of money at once, and suddenly do, changes a lot.

They always look from their current perspective, depending how much money they have and need... but once the money is there... they notice those things they could finally buy to improve their living situation... including a bigger home, an updated car and a new wardrobe...

So... they start to buy stuff and put money aside... and starting to realize that you do indeed walk different in $600 handmade dress shoes (because of the cork inlay and overall craftmanship...) and how nice a custom tailored shirt with Egyptian brushed cotton feels and looks on you...

Then you see how you are treated different in finer restaurants and you learn to enjoy a good Beaujolais and the wonders a nice grappa Barolo Classico (so small production that the labels are handwritten) will do after a delicious Italian meal.

Gawd... people... if you have money...  or if you ever had money, you know what I am talking about.

Now... my point is... people ALWAYS under estimate what it means to actually have a chunk of money... and at the same overestimate how little 1 Million really is...

I'd say that the money would be gone in most cases within 5 years or less.

If you are a financially savvy person... you could do wonders by multiplying the money and making it work properly for you... then you could reap the benefits of further income... but... not if the 1 Million is all there is...

Enjoy life... smile

I lived "high" and I lived "low"... and in all cases... the most important thing to me was the company I keep and the quality times I am able to experience with my real friends... some slices of smoked prosciutto, some pieces of brie or Parmigiano Reggiano, some olives and italian sourdough baguette... maybe a wine... some cool deep house jazz music, while sitting on the windowsill and talking philosophy, world politics or culture... or funny stories...  those are also simple joys of life... joys that I always enjoyed most... with or without money.

But... IF you have money... and you can afford to do have this kind of life experiences when YOU want and not when an employer decides... it's great... works well for artists... smile

Jan 27 13 02:50 pm Link

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Sophia Be

Posts: 6355

Portland, Oregon, US

Assuming that's un-taxed, and not accounting for inflation, in Portland, I'd say my husband and I could live off that for around 20 years.

That would be living fairly basic, and taking into account my child is almost grown and would soon be out on his own.

Even if I bought a home to live in and payed it off completely, and lived very thin,  there would still be prop taxes, insurance on my car, property and medical insurance/expenses, and home/car maintenance, medical for my pets, etc etc.

If I bought a sail boat and lived on it, probably much, much longer. Or in a different state, also, much longer.

A lot of variables here.

1 mil isn't really that much for a lifetime.

Jan 27 13 02:56 pm Link

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Tim Little Photography

Posts: 11771

Wilmington, Delaware, US

The rest of my life with no problem. I've learned how to be frugal. I would get my little condo out of foreclosure. It is a little studio and only $75K would pay it off. I don't own a car so I would get something like a little Toyota or that little 16K Ford. If I really went all out on a car it would be a Ford Fusion.

I would want a camera since I don't have one that works anymore. To be honest my life has been really hard the past few years so I would treat myself to a Canon T4i and some L glass.

I would like to make it easier for parents who have kids that are in the hospital for a long long time. A nice little set of simple, free, apartments  at the hospital I was at when I was a kid would be a good use of money. Moms and dads could just be there for their kids and not worry. If there was a way I would want to name it "Lotus House" after my mom.

I would get to have a home that isn't going anywhere. A great car and an awesome camera. OHHH, I would want to be able to pay top fees to a few amazing glorious models here to shoot with them. Like Jules NYC for sure. That would be so awesome.

Jan 27 13 03:22 pm Link

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Digitoxin

Posts: 13456

Denver, Colorado, US

OP:

Without an estimate of inflation, it is not really possible to guess...

Even at 3% inflation,  that $1.0m would be worth $500k in approx 20 years even if you didn't spend a dime.  Inflation is insidious and needs to be considered.

Jan 27 13 03:23 pm Link

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billy badfinger

Posts: 887

Grand Rapids, Michigan, US

This is so interesting to me...all the variations and thought...

If I could,I'd send you all $1mil and check back with you in 5 years...

Maybe we are fooling ourselves in some respects re: $$!
Maybe some of us are just "cheap enough" to make it last a lifetime!
(Ummm,that would be Me!!!)

Jan 27 13 05:20 pm Link

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Paolo D Photography

Posts: 11502

San Francisco, California, US

$1mil = about 7 years.
I couldn't not spend money on my family and friends.
...and a new exotic car for myself.

Jan 27 13 06:01 pm Link

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Brian T Rickey

Posts: 4008

Saint Louis, Missouri, US

depends on how much Kate Beckinsale is going to charge me

Jan 27 13 06:03 pm Link

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Damianne

Posts: 15978

Austin, Texas, US

Shandra Stark wrote:

Interestingly, it didn't even occur to me to change my life drastically.  Literally didn't even think of buying a house or a car (I don't have either one).  lol

I think if I bought a house, it'd last me 10 years.

It's what I plan to use my money on anyway, so it really wouldn't be a life change, more of a life fast forward.

230k for a nice house, 30k for a nice car, I'm fucking set forever. Maybe 10-20k on new furniture and some remodelling for my house, a new TV, that sort of thing. After that I'm just sitting on cash.
I'd keep working so I don't have to start over my career and resume in a decade, most likely, and have the freedom to take jobs that would teach me stuff more than jobs that would make me more money.

Fuck, I'd probably set 100k in a fund and have a kid. Take some classes during my maternity leave online and test out of the rest of a business degree.
Buy some Roth IRAs and have another fund, 100k (although we're not counting investment capital in this exercise, I can still invest I assume, just the earnings don't count) and have it funnel in 5k to my partner and my Roths each year.

Go on a vacation.

Set up a lot in my savings account.

Live super cheaply because I just have to pay taxes from then on.

Have a garden.

Done. Life accomplished. Be happy ever after.

Jan 27 13 06:03 pm Link

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Sophia Be

Posts: 6355

Portland, Oregon, US

Damianne wrote:
It's what I plan to use my money on anyway, so it really wouldn't be a life change, more of a life fast forward.

230k for a nice house, 30k for a nice car, I'm fucking set forever. Maybe 10-20k on new furniture and some remodelling for my house, a new TV, that sort of thing. After that I'm just sitting on cash.
I'd keep working so I don't have to start over my career and resume in a decade, most likely, and have the freedom to take jobs that would teach me stuff more than jobs that would make me more money.

Fuck, I'd probably set 100k in a fund and have a kid. Take some classes during my maternity leave online and test out of the rest of a business degree.
Buy some Roth IRAs and have another fund, 100k (although we're not counting investment capital in this exercise, I can still invest I assume, just the earnings don't count) and have it funnel in 5k to my partner and my Roths each year.

Go on a vacation.

Set up a lot in my savings account.

Live super cheaply because I just have to pay taxes from then on.

Have a garden.

Done. Life accomplished. Be happy ever after.

I thought the rule was 1 mil, no working, no investing, no interest, just 1 mil and that's that?

If I could still work and invest, then hell yeah, for the rest of my life.

Jan 27 13 06:42 pm Link

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Damianne

Posts: 15978

Austin, Texas, US

Sophia Be wrote:
I thought the rule was 1 mil, no working, no investing, no interest, just 1 mil and that's that?

If I could still work and invest, then hell yeah, for the rest of my life.

I thought the rule was you couldn't use the investment funds i.e. only get a million, we're not talking about any money you made off of it, how long would the million last you.

Maybe the rules said I had to stop working, but that shit ain't happening.

Jan 27 13 06:45 pm Link

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EdwardKristopher

Posts: 3409

Tempe, Arizona, US

13.88889  :-)

Jan 27 13 06:51 pm Link

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Cherrystone

Posts: 37171

Columbus, Ohio, US

5-6 yrs. Give or take a bit...

Jan 27 13 06:57 pm Link

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Nicholas Fischer

Posts: 41

Saskatoon, Saskatchewan, Canada

2 weeks after browsing on ebay.

Jan 27 13 08:26 pm Link

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hygvhgvkhy

Posts: 2092

Chicago, Illinois, US

Anna Adrielle wrote:

nono, you said investing, interest or additional income was not allowed smile. what if there's a way to still make more money without investing or additional income!

Used it to start a successful business. I win:P

Jan 27 13 08:28 pm Link

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Gianantonio

Posts: 8159

Turin, Piemonte, Italy

billy badfinger wrote:
This game assumes NO additional income...NONE.
Not even interest and investing the $1mil is NOT allowed.
Ready???...Go!!!

Personally...I think I could go about 16-18 years!

Why no investing?  That's unrealistic--am I to put this $1,000,000 in my basement?  smile

I could live off the interest if I invested it in my current portfolio (even if I removed my existing money that's in that portfolio).

If it was just the million with no investments or other money?  10 years.

Jan 27 13 08:43 pm Link

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studio36uk

Posts: 22898

Tavai, Sigave, Wallis and Futuna

Me? A good long time. My wife? Not so much!

Studio36

Jan 28 13 05:44 am Link

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Image Works Photography

Posts: 2890

Orlando, Florida, US

This is after taxes?Nevermind. If its only me I would be financially secured for the rest of my life. First thing is buy a new house and two brand new cars- one for the weekend for play time. I would put new furnishings inside the house and appliances. Figuring I can get the single biggest barriers to financial freedom out of the way ex mortgage and car payments- I can now just spend the rest as I would be receiving payment from my daytime job and never work again for the rest of my life.

Jan 28 13 06:03 am Link

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Christopher Hartman

Posts: 54196

Buena Park, California, US

billy badfinger wrote:
This game assumes NO additional income...NONE.
Not even interest and investing the $1mil is NOT allowed.
Ready???...Go!!!

Personally...I think I could go about 16-18 years!

Do I have to pay taxes?

assuming I have $1,000,000 in the bank and no taxes.

Homes count as investment? tongue  if so...12-15 years.  If I can buy a house, 7-10.

Jan 28 13 07:27 am Link

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MKPhoto

Posts: 5665

Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada

Anywhere from fraction of a day to a couple extra lifetimes, depending whether I plan to live forever...or not wink

I am pretty sure there are some all-inclusive resorts that would be very happy to entertain a guest for years at $50 a day.( 20 grand a year) That's good for 50+ years. wink

Jan 28 13 07:39 am Link

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sospix

Posts: 23773

Orlando, Florida, US

Based on how quickly money burns a hole in my pocket, and the fact that the Mecum car auction was just here, I'll be lucky to last until lunch  .  .  .  course, I could always get some "money management" advice from Phil Mickelson, or move to Belgium with Gerard  .  .  .  wink

SOS

Jan 28 13 08:12 am Link

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Cait Chan

Posts: 6272

Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, US

Carlos Occidental wrote:
.... If I use it to live at the level I'm currently living, 40 years.

^^ around here

Jan 28 13 08:14 am Link

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Two Pears Studio

Posts: 3632

Wilmington, Delaware, US

Less than 10.

Jan 28 13 08:21 am Link

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JAE

Posts: 2207

West Chester, Pennsylvania, US

-JAY- wrote:
buy a house: $300,000
Buy a $20k car every 5-8ish years: $100,000

Bills would be like $1500 per month without a mortgage and car payment for a comfortable lifestyle - 30+ years.

This.  My bills would be a bit cheaper though.

Jan 28 13 08:24 am Link

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Looknsee Photography

Posts: 26342

Portland, Oregon, US

Looknsee Photography wrote:
So, $1,000,000 will last me probably 4 months, because I am already comfortable & pretty secure, and I don't need it all that much.  I'd make sure that those who need it more than I do get a good chunk of it.

-JAY- wrote:
No additional income - what are you going to eat for the rest of your life?

See -- I guess I still don't understand.

I have 5 properties worth in total over $1,000,000.  Those 5 properties include 7 rental units, so they bring in revenue.

I have a music publishing catalog worth maybe $3,000,000; I expect it to bring in revenue for decades.

I have a healthy stock portfolio.

Why would I dump all my assets?

I reiterate -- give me $1,000,000, and I'll spend some & give away most; I'm comfortable with what I've got.

Jan 28 13 09:14 am Link

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MKPhoto

Posts: 5665

Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada

Looknsee Photography wrote:

Looknsee Photography wrote:
So, $1,000,000 will last me probably 4 months, because I am already comfortable & pretty secure, and I don't need it all that much.  I'd make sure that those who need it more than I do get a good chunk of it.

See -- I guess I still don't understand.

I have 5 properties worth in total over $1,000,000.  Those 5 properties include 7 rental units, so they bring in revenue.

I have a music publishing catalog worth maybe $3,000,000; I expect it to bring in revenue for decades.

I have a healthy stock portfolio.

Why would I dump all my assets?

I reiterate -- give me $1,000,000, and I'll spend some & give away most; I'm comfortable with what I've got.

I think the OP idea is what would you do if you DID NOT have all this. Just $1M.

Jan 28 13 10:52 am Link

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Looknsee Photography

Posts: 26342

Portland, Oregon, US

MKPhoto wrote:
I think the OP idea is what would you do if you DID NOT have all this. Just $1M.

Yeah, but I'm confused about his "no interest / no investing" idea.  If that $1 million is going to last me, I will have to invest it.  If it is not going to last me, I'd just as soon give it to folks who need it more than I do.

Jan 28 13 11:31 am Link

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A S Photography

Posts: 1222

Newark, Delaware, US

MKPhoto wrote:
I think the OP idea is what would you do if you DID NOT have all this. Just $1M.

Looknsee Photography wrote:
Yeah, but I'm confused about his "no interest / no investing" idea.  If that $1 million is going to last me, I will have to invest it.  If it is not going to last me, I'd just as soon give it to folks who need it more than I do.

I'm assuming that he intends for you to put in the bank at 0% interest.  Or, maybe, under your mattress.

Jan 28 13 12:48 pm Link

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Bob Helm Photography

Posts: 18907

Cherry Hill, New Jersey, US

For most people not anywhere near as long as they think.
To last 20 years that would be 50K per year which sounds like a lot but in 20 years you will need 100K to equal the 50 today.

If your house and car(s) are paid for and you live where property taxes are low and stay healthy it will last a while but as some point sooner than you would like it will run out.

Now with interest rates what they are now, not getting any interest is pretty close to today's reality.  sad

Jan 28 13 01:24 pm Link

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L o n d o n F o g

Posts: 7497

London, England, United Kingdom

Not long if I went to Prague!

Jan 28 13 01:26 pm Link

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PocketChangeProductions

Posts: 91

Harrisburg, Pennsylvania, US

About five minutes or so... at least to break it to under $1M... the remainder no clue whatsoever.

Jan 28 13 05:44 pm Link

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Aaron Lewis Photography

Posts: 5217

Catskill, New York, US

10 - 15 years tops if I maintain my current lifestyle.

Jan 28 13 05:46 pm Link

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Ed Woodson Photography

Posts: 2644

Savannah, Georgia, US

13.698630137 years.....

Jan 28 13 06:16 pm Link

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MF productions

Posts: 2064

San Jose, California, US

30 years.  Being thrifty helps.

Jan 28 13 10:42 pm Link

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billy badfinger

Posts: 887

Grand Rapids, Michigan, US

Hey Ed,
Can you figure out exactly what time of day please???

Jan 29 13 07:37 am Link